Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

blue neen

(12,319 posts)
25. Yes, human will use resources to keep from freezing, but why does it have to be fossil fuels?
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 08:34 PM
Feb 2012

There is technology already available, but Oil and Gas Companies haven't figured out a way to make enough money off of other sources yet.

"Noble environmentalism" is what cleaned up Pennsylvania after the Oil Companies and the Coal Companies destroyed this state 100 years ago. When I was a child, the river in my hometown was bright orange from acid mine drainage. We spent many years, and a whole lot of money restoring that river that the Robber Barons had polluted into a giant sulfur stream. Now, they stock this same river with trout and have fishing tournaments.

What happens? The same people who got rich from oil and coal are now the ones getting even richer from Marcellus Shale...they didn't give a damn then or now about anything but money. The acid mine drainage is gone, only to be replaced by methane, and benzene, and toluene. So, the cycle starts all over again.

That's bullshit. People shouldn't sit here and be complacent and accept it all as inevitable. That's why what is going on in New York is so admirable. I salute them and everyone who is still trying in Pennsylvania (although that's a tough cause until we vote Governor Gashole out of office).

"over the where" dipsydoodle Feb 2012 #1
The "how" nowadays includes much of the 'where', a point the judge ignored or missed. Fortran Feb 2012 #3
IMHO, the "how" does not include the "where." blue neen Feb 2012 #4
Subsurface formations are fractured far from a point directly underneath the hole where it starts. Fortran Feb 2012 #15
That's correct. The toxic fracking chemicals are put through laterals up to 1 1/2 miles away. blue neen Feb 2012 #18
You obviously are quite ignorant of the legal system if you PA Democrat Feb 2012 #23
Apparently you never heard of contingency fees or class action suits. Fortran Feb 2012 #29
Spare me your insults. A contingency fee means that the plaintiff's attorney bears all the costs PA Democrat Feb 2012 #33
I'll go with the "how." nt DocMac Feb 2012 #2
Go New York! blue neen Feb 2012 #5
Do you think gas companies are going to tell the truth Thinkingabout Feb 2012 #6
Pure water christx30 Feb 2012 #7
Good one. Thanks for the laugh. proverbialwisdom Feb 2012 #12
woot ellisonz Feb 2012 #8
IOW "Home Rule" rules and communities get to determine their own destiny. from the court ruling Agony Feb 2012 #9
REC! Great News. DON'T drink the flammable water. L. Coyote Feb 2012 #10
Love it SnakeEyes Feb 2012 #11
State Pre-emption Pesticide Laws are being battled out across the country, links here: proverbialwisdom Feb 2012 #13
Of course Frack wells can be drilled over a mile and a half horizontally from the well head. mackdaddy Feb 2012 #14
A ban on gas drilling has nothing to do with fracking which is a completely separate activity Fortran Feb 2012 #16
What does "cheap auto gas" have to do with the natural gas derived from fracking? blue neen Feb 2012 #17
Halliburton did not invent it, they got some of the earlier patents. I worked in Okla and Illinois Fortran Feb 2012 #19
Lots of interesting info on Halliburton: blue neen Feb 2012 #20
The truck isn't actually mine, it belongs to the city. It is a 2010 Chevy part of a fleet they had Fortran Feb 2012 #21
Oh, by the way, not to defend Halliburton, but 50 years ago they were just another company Fortran Feb 2012 #22
Yes, human will use resources to keep from freezing, but why does it have to be fossil fuels? blue neen Feb 2012 #25
You're absolutely right, there is current technology that can fill in that gap, it is nuclear. Fortran Feb 2012 #27
The fundamental problem is this: blue neen Feb 2012 #31
The cleanup that I find "so praiseworthy?" Really? Does that mean you don't? blue neen Feb 2012 #34
Cost to convert your engine to run on natural gas is $12,500 - $22,500. PA Democrat Feb 2012 #26
Post removed Post removed Feb 2012 #28
Let's see. There are between 21 and 50 CNG filling stations in the entire state of Texas. blue neen Feb 2012 #30
Pointing out the fallacy of your argument does not equal "defending gasoline." PA Democrat Feb 2012 #32
Good to hear that NY has not sold out to the natural gas industry like my state has. PA Democrat Feb 2012 #24
Latest Discussions»Latest Breaking News»2nd New York state judge ...»Reply #25