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DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
41. I do not defend the greeks
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 04:23 AM
Feb 2012

However, the Germans have no Halos. They liked the idea of an EU when they could order about weaker countries, but now, they hate the idea of helping them.

Guess what Berlin. YOU wanted a federal government, YOU wanted to be the new superpower (although it seems China beat you to it.) As the Russians and we Yanks can tell you, part of that is dealing with the weaker states that have no shot in hell of being as productive as others, yet demand a good share of the spoils, and who will still spit on you, and tell their children to hate you and dream of the day when they will kill you. The Soviets had Belarus, we have Texas.

Admittedly, you are reluctant because back in the days of the masstrict treaty, Schroder cut his budget, and others, namely France and England, just blew cigarette smoke in your face and said "You cut your budget!" Schroder lost to Merkel.

However, none of that hides the fact you had ambitions. True, so did London and Paris, but London never committed to the Euro, and Paris was never going to be predictable enough; one minute they might vote Sarkozy, next a full communist, and the next, Le Pen. You balking at the idea of helping a state (and by that, I do not mean simply trying to get more power) is comic. And we are not supposed to laugh? Add to this you want to slash the very social programs that made Europeans glad they were not Americans.

I thank you, because just when I had begun to think that our system was beyond remdemption, when I had wondered if our constitution really was a "piece of paper", you go ahead and remind us that some aspects of the Federal experiment were done right here. Yes, we are screwed, but so are you, and right now, it looks like Beijing is shaking their heads at us all. Not that they are any less screwed.

Greece had already increased their number of tax collectors dipsydoodle Feb 2012 #1
however CountAllVotes Feb 2012 #2
That's unassociated from your own OP dipsydoodle Feb 2012 #5
what is with the picture then? CountAllVotes Feb 2012 #7
The fact of the matter is dipsydoodle Feb 2012 #11
+1000 DeSwiss Feb 2012 #27
We need the Iceland plan here. CAPHAVOC Feb 2012 #30
And that is the right answer. nt TBF Feb 2012 #55
Two key paragraphs in the story about Iceland's debt crisis. AdHocSolver Feb 2012 #39
That's going to go over well CanonRay Feb 2012 #3
I was about to post something similiar itsrobert Feb 2012 #4
That's not the same at all. dipsydoodle Feb 2012 #6
Oh you. sudopod Feb 2012 #9
And all the money winds up back in German banks CanonRay Feb 2012 #15
Only if they were the sole lenders dipsydoodle Feb 2012 #35
Yes, I would rather KKE take over the government and TBF Feb 2012 #54
as I recall, the American colonies magical thyme Feb 2012 #47
Boy, they just can't resist adding more insult to injury.. hlthe2b Feb 2012 #8
Oh those poor Greeks... TreasonousBastard Feb 2012 #10
As long as it is the "rich" who are going to pay the taxes. jwirr Feb 2012 #14
I got a little mad. Nice try. 3/10 sudopod Feb 2012 #20
Gimme a break. Of course the politicians... TreasonousBastard Feb 2012 #23
Read this: abelenkpe Feb 2012 #24
Or this: abelenkpe Feb 2012 #45
Krugman's latest on Greece and Europe abelenkpe Feb 2012 #59
I don't understand the excuses for Greece fujiyama Feb 2012 #21
they did not offer full retirement in their 50s magical thyme Feb 2012 #46
My mistake fujiyama Feb 2012 #56
they should default and become a pariah nation magical thyme Feb 2012 #48
Apples and Oranges. former9thward Feb 2012 #53
So many potential jokes slackmaster Feb 2012 #12
I may be paranoid but that does not sound good to me. jwirr Feb 2012 #13
I thought that the Germans lost WW II. AnotherMcIntosh Feb 2012 #16
this came to mind...Very Interesting...but stupid CTyankee Feb 2012 #17
lol ... CountAllVotes Feb 2012 #19
Old enough to remember... 1monster Feb 2012 #26
Laugh-In debuted in January 1968 Art_from_Ark Feb 2012 #43
Ah...such memories (I think). Thanks for the... FailureToCommunicate Feb 2012 #33
Sock it to me, Sock it to me, Sock it to me... (nt) reACTIONary Feb 2012 #40
Sock it to me? n/t amandabeech Feb 2012 #62
"Sock it to me" was... reACTIONary Mar 2012 #64
tankes ELKODCH Feb 2012 #18
Not The Onion. Nt xchrom Feb 2012 #22
Not showing a lot of sensitivity toward the Greeks by the Germans, considering 1monster Feb 2012 #25
Well, isn't that just so very sweet of the Germans, NOT liberalhistorian Feb 2012 #28
If this was about squeezing the money out of peasants you might actually have a point but its not. cstanleytech Feb 2012 #29
I think people understand this but the peasants have been screwed in this whole deal while the CTyankee Feb 2012 #34
Hopefully the majority of greek citizens will realize that they are neither oppressors nor cstanleytech Feb 2012 #37
Nice ida QA_IT_Pro Feb 2012 #31
Post removed Post removed Feb 2012 #32
Well, someone has to do it. Bradical79 Feb 2012 #36
If you want the same currency as Germany, and the same living standard as Germany, Nye Bevan Feb 2012 #38
Can they get the salaries the Germens get, how about the free college education? fasttense Feb 2012 #44
they are more productive than the Germans magical thyme Feb 2012 #49
I do not defend the greeks DonCoquixote Feb 2012 #41
Some people think that the middle class in other EU countries should pay taxes for the Greeks? Democat Feb 2012 #42
Because the poor and working folks will be made to pick up the tab TheKentuckian Feb 2012 #52
As Democat said, why should it be the taxpayers in OTHER countries picking up the tab? Nihil Feb 2012 #58
The wealthy of whatever nation can pick up the tab, I'm going to stand TheKentuckian Feb 2012 #61
And I'm going to stand with the working class folks of the nations who *do* pay taxes. Nihil Feb 2012 #63
it's a lovely country with a wonderful climate magical thyme Feb 2012 #50
But who will volunteer to be the tax collectors' bodyguards? brentspeak Feb 2012 #51
HA! What could **possibly** go wrong? annabanana Feb 2012 #57
I hope the gun laws are pretty tight in Greece NickB79 Feb 2012 #60
. LetTimmySmoke Mar 2012 #65
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