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BehindTheCurtain76

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1. We Are Bad Too...Bush and the other 1% Hacks Idolize the Chinese and Saudi models
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 02:21 AM
Jun 2013

Last edited Tue Jun 25, 2013, 04:55 AM - Edit history (1)

Here is what exNSA whistleblower Russ Tice said :

Indeed, NSA whistleblower Russ Tice, the principal source for The New York Times exposé of illegal Bush administration spy programs, told Sibel Edmonds' Boiling Frogs Post podcast that the secret state has ordered surveillance on a wide range of groups and individuals, including antiwar activists, high-ranking military officials, lawmakers and diplomats.

According to Tice: "Okay. They went after--and I know this because I had my hands literally on the paperwork for these sort of things--they went after high-ranking military officers; they went after members of Congress, both Senate and the House, especially on the intelligence committees and on the armed services committees and some of the--and judicial. But they went after other ones, too. They went after lawyers and law firms. All kinds of--heaps of lawyers and law firms. They went after judges. One of the judges is now sitting on the Supreme Court that I had his wiretap information in my hand. Two are former FISA court judges. They went after State Department officials. They went after people in the executive service that were part of the White House--their own people. They went after antiwar groups. They went after US international--US companies that that do international business, you know, business around the world. They went after US banking firms and financial firms that do international business. They went after NGOs that--like the Red Cross, people like that that go overseas and do humanitarian work. They went after a few antiwar and civil rights groups. So, you know, don't tell me that there's no abuse, because I've had this stuff in my hand and looked at it."

"Here's the big one," Tice told hosts Sibel Edmonds and Peter B. Collins, "this was in summer of 2004, one of the papers that I held in my hand was to wiretap a bunch of numbers associated with a 40-something-year-old wannabe senator for Illinois. You wouldn't happen to know where that guy lives right now would you? It's a big white house in Washington, D.C. That's who they went after, and that's the president of the United States now."

Other political targets revealed by Tice included all nine Supreme Court justices, Senate Intelligence Committee head Dianne Feinstein (D-CA), Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), House Minority leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) and ousted CIA director General David Petraeus, who allegedly resigned over a sex scandal.

We Are Bad Too...Bush and the other 1% Hacks Idolize the Chinese and Saudi models BehindTheCurtain76 Jun 2013 #1
No, the US is not "just as bad" as China. SunSeeker Jun 2013 #3
any time DU talks about china.. iamthebandfanman Jun 2013 #4
Dude...are you joking? BehindTheCurtain76 Jun 2013 #5
yes, we have a large number of folks in jail.. iamthebandfanman Jun 2013 #9
Define police state for me. Most cops I see here in China are sound asleep in their cars Nanjing to Seoul Jun 2013 #11
So, iamthebandfanman Jun 2013 #13
Considering I live by the attitude that it's their pile of shit they need to clean up, Nanjing to Seoul Jun 2013 #15
To be fair this is a really risky thing to do in America. /nt Ash_F Jun 2013 #20
"Most cops I see here " --exaaaactly psychopomp Jun 2013 #34
the ones that don't are obvious to the naked eye. Nanjing to Seoul Jun 2013 #36
have you been to detroit, chicago, houston? BehindTheCurtain76 Jun 2013 #37
Bad Title BehindTheCurtain76 Jun 2013 #6
I assume you are talking about me. I am an American Nanjing to Seoul Jun 2013 #10
Nope, iamthebandfanman Jun 2013 #12
Yes. It is amazing. SunSeeker Jun 2013 #23
And we benefit from their oppression. ForgoTheConsequence Jun 2013 #8
No, we do not "benefit" from the race to the bottom. SunSeeker Jun 2013 #16
While I agree. ForgoTheConsequence Jun 2013 #28
When you have fallen out of the middle class, you have no choice but to buy cheap crap. SunSeeker Jun 2013 #29
Bullshit excuses. ForgoTheConsequence Jun 2013 #30
It is wrong to blame average Americans. SunSeeker Jun 2013 #31
If they cared they would be in the streets. ForgoTheConsequence Jun 2013 #32
That kind of defeatist thinking is not going to change anything. SunSeeker Jun 2013 #33
Except the US has more people imprisoned despite Bonobo Jun 2013 #14
Do you think that one statistic means we are "just as bad"? SunSeeker Jun 2013 #17
Nope, but it puts you in the running. Bonobo Jun 2013 #18
My country has a lot of problems, but it is nowhere near as bad as China. SunSeeker Jun 2013 #19
It is a relative thing. nt Bonobo Jun 2013 #21
No, it is not. SunSeeker Jun 2013 #22
Of course it is. Bonobo Jun 2013 #24
Too bad you hate your country so much. nt SunSeeker Jun 2013 #25
Too bad my country is so fucked up. Bonobo Jun 2013 #26
Where do you live? nt SunSeeker Jun 2013 #27
You sound like an expert. wtmusic Jun 2013 #38
".....tearing off Washington's sanctimonious mask" DeSwiss Jun 2013 #2
*sigh* It's going to be tough accepting our new overlords. /nt Ash_F Jun 2013 #7
Time to sign the TPP and outsource more jobs to China YEAH!!! grahamhgreen Jun 2013 #35
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