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Marrah_G

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116. As with many issues on DU...
Fri May 17, 2013, 12:28 PM
May 2013

You have two groups with very different inflexible points of view. My guess is that most of DU falls in between the all-good or all-bad groups but fail to speak up to much because discussing it with either side gets frustrating. That's just my guess.

It's amazing the kind of pressure the elite corporate capitalists can put on a country fasttense May 2013 #1
This was self inflicted hack89 May 2013 #3
It is so indicative dotymed May 2013 #6
Well put. another_liberal May 2013 #8
Could you explain how 'oligarchic hegemony' made the toilet paper go away? msanthrope May 2013 #10
Sure msanthrope. dotymed May 2013 #13
Suppose that steaming stack of horseshit is true Dreamer Tatum May 2013 #40
Have some more kool-aid. dotymed May 2013 #90
If a government is so inept that it can't keep asses wiped Dreamer Tatum May 2013 #108
Funny how a criminal Fearless May 2013 #124
Yes, indeed. The government has touched bottom (pun intended) with this latest circumstance. MADem May 2013 #147
Heh, water wasn't even running in Caracas. joshcryer May 2013 #150
Oh, now you're a socialist? bitchkitty May 2013 #159
panic buying and the ensueing profit backwoodsbob May 2013 #167
This is one of the more deluded or misguided posts I've read in a long time. nt TeamPooka May 2013 #165
Yeah, delusional... Dreamer Tatum May 2013 #166
Hmm...see, what you say doesn't really add up. msanthrope May 2013 #70
IDK all that, but most paper goods manufacturing is owned by the Koch brothers, isn't it? freshwest May 2013 #84
Step 1. dotymed May 2013 #92
There are a few things in play here melm00se May 2013 #17
alternative treestar May 2013 #42
pages from the Sears catalog melm00se May 2013 #59
... but now that the catalog is online JustABozoOnThisBus May 2013 #89
Corn cobs. Jackpine Radical May 2013 #102
Interesting analysis, except that Venezuela's economy has been growing at 5+%... Peace Patriot May 2013 #62
5th in the world. But they having nothing to wipe their asses with (nt) Nye Bevan May 2013 #100
Thank you - I always bitchkitty May 2013 #114
With rampant inflation, declining oil production and a skyrocketing murder rate. hack89 May 2013 #117
The number for murder is probably higher. joshcryer May 2013 #143
Cost per barrel plummeted in the Bush Junta-induced worldwide depression, Peace Patriot Jun 2013 #174
Yet they have food shortages and declining oil revenue hack89 Jun 2013 #175
First off: I'm for nationalizing things. Here, elsewhere. Example, our oil industry vs. Norway's. freshwest May 2013 #171
Toilet paper and paper products are the Koch brothers biggest selling products people! xtraxritical May 2013 #32
The Vzla. Govt. is the ONLY entity allowed to IMPORT Into Vzla. the dictator controls everything. Bo May 2013 #82
Your post suggests that before dotymed May 2013 #93
See also dipsydoodle May 2013 #2
lol, excessive demand n/t Bacchus4.0 May 2013 #5
"Excessive demand" = panic-driven hoarding Comrade Grumpy May 2013 #38
DING DING DING!! KamaAina May 2013 #43
I've heard that spam is really popular in Hawai'i Ash_F May 2013 #72
It dates back to World War II KamaAina May 2013 #74
So people came to like it through familiarity? Ash_F May 2013 #75
Actually, it's not KamaAina May 2013 #76
I suddenly have an unexpected hankering for spam Ash_F May 2013 #86
It's good with pineapple? redwitch May 2013 #103
I'll have you know, the "Hawaiian" pizza (ham and pineapple) is more popular in California KamaAina May 2013 #111
I'm from New Jersey. redwitch May 2013 #123
And you're right. KamaAina May 2013 #125
There was a month between the devaluation and wage increase. joshcryer May 2013 #136
The same media who has never had anything good to say about Hugo Chavez...eom Kolesar May 2013 #16
TP shortage in Venezuela = Bullet shortage in the U.S.? JustABozoOnThisBus May 2013 #88
There's something sulphurdunn May 2013 #4
sulphudunn, dipsydoodle informed us of the culprits. dotymed May 2013 #11
So much for freedom of the press, eh? rbixby May 2013 #33
'chavez had to shut them down' geek tragedy May 2013 #34
I complain about Eric Holder every chance I get. dotymed May 2013 #95
The have a toilet paper shortage? another_liberal May 2013 #7
But you've failed to explain how this is Obama's fault. nt msanthrope May 2013 #9
I have a couple of graduate diplomas they could have... KansDem May 2013 #12
Are you fucking kidding me? bitchkitty May 2013 #14
And the campaign to test the post Chavez government continues. Warren Stupidity May 2013 #15
Same old script, from Allende to Aristide Catherina May 2013 #28
yep, it always starts with limiting TP production and then the shit really hits the fan Bacchus4.0 May 2013 #29
oil for tp program will be required n/t Bacchus4.0 May 2013 #18
Oh right, Maduro: "My political opponents are to blame!" Archae May 2013 #19
its the price controls they've imposed Bacchus4.0 May 2013 #21
Agreed. Archae May 2013 #23
its quite embarrasing since Venezuela has been a fairly developed country for decades Bacchus4.0 May 2013 #27
Maduro recently said that people will have to pay for their free houses. joshcryer May 2013 #141
Because leaders have never been assassinated, let alone by poison. WinkyDink May 2013 #24
Oh for Christ's sake... Archae May 2013 #25
I predicted he wouldn't serve out his term. This election was too close. I agree that pure..... Tarheel_Dem May 2013 #77
It still doesn't mean he was "poisoned." Archae May 2013 #87
Agreed. nt Tarheel_Dem May 2013 #113
Quoting the head of the Venezuelan business federation dotymed May 2013 #96
Evenhanded? I guess that bitchkitty May 2013 #107
It does work, bitchkitty May 2013 #61
Pure socialism works? Archae May 2013 #63
Hmmm..Venezuela holds elections dotymed May 2013 #98
Except as we can see, Venezuela is not working. Archae May 2013 #106
One of these days the diehard Chavez defenders will... TreasonousBastard May 2013 #20
"communist or radical socialist" Warren Stupidity May 2013 #35
Who also nationalized their major industries... TreasonousBastard May 2013 #41
Now you'll be in trouble... Archae May 2013 #64
Wtf is this 'phanbois' you keep yammering on about? nt. polly7 May 2013 #65
The people who say Chavez and now Maduro can do no wrong. Archae May 2013 #66
I've never seen anyone say anything like that. You have quite an imagination, congrats. nt. polly7 May 2013 #67
I don't think people believe Maduro can do no wrong Ash_F May 2013 #73
They live in his pants, bitchkitty May 2013 #105
To many DUers, nationalizing major industries, declaring class warfare and destroying foreign trade Nye Bevan May 2013 #101
But, how many of them have to live there? n/t TreasonousBastard May 2013 #131
I know of at least one DUer who lives in an elite community in Latin America. joshcryer May 2013 #138
Oh do tell us more about this "elite community" oh teller of tales Catherina May 2013 #144
Hit a nerve I see. joshcryer May 2013 #145
Well, I read the links and it doesn't look good for you so far. Looks like slander to me, unless you idwiyo May 2013 #156
Actually, they were nationalized before Chavez came along. joshcryer May 2013 #142
Darn that George W. Bush and his army of toilet paper gremlins! Pterodactyl May 2013 #22
Their biggest problem is declining oil production hack89 May 2013 #26
"Propped up Cuba"? Does that roody May 2013 #161
All those things will disapear soon hack89 May 2013 #162
Despite holding power for well over a decade, the Chavistas are not geek tragedy May 2013 #30
the most basic of necessities? How elite of them CBGLuthier May 2013 #31
What a shock, a government the US hates having shortages. Amazing. Judi Lynn May 2013 #36
The shortage of toilet paper is a crap article and should be wiped out Bacchus4.0 May 2013 #37
Are the Chavistas responsible for any bad things that happen under geek tragedy May 2013 #44
+1 Blue_Tires May 2013 #160
I don't understand why some DUers loathe Venezuela so much. Comrade Grumpy May 2013 #39
I don't understand why some DUers venerate the Venezuela Govt so much. brooklynite May 2013 #45
you know things are shitty when there is no toilet paper n/t Bacchus4.0 May 2013 #47
Well, not so much glee as a reaction to the cult of Chavez geek tragedy May 2013 #46
It's not just Venezuela they loathe. polly7 May 2013 #49
Yes ma'am, their positions are very constant Catherina May 2013 #50
"hide it"? they brag about it. Warren Stupidity May 2013 #51
I love Venezuela. Its a beautiful country with wonderful people. Too bad the government Bacchus4.0 May 2013 #53
Venezuela was once a wonderful, wonderful place. nt Dreamer Tatum May 2013 #109
Back in the good old days. When they just killed uppity poor people. Comrade Grumpy May 2013 #112
Yeah...at least now everyone gets killed. Dreamer Tatum May 2013 #115
Yep, now its just 30-100 per weekend in Caracas and 20,000 + murders per year Bacchus4.0 May 2013 #119
It's all those CIA hitmen sent by "TPTB" to destabilize Venezuela Dreamer Tatum May 2013 #120
now the chavistas are trying to blame Capriles and former Colombian president Uribe Bacchus4.0 May 2013 #126
The only thing more fragile than a box of puppies is the Venezuelan economy, apparently Dreamer Tatum May 2013 #127
Television. Ash_F May 2013 #83
As with many issues on DU... Marrah_G May 2013 #116
Most of the informed posters post in Latin America. joshcryer May 2013 #139
The stalinians, they break everything they touch. Nt. Sand Wind May 2013 #48
I've never been to Venezuela so I'm an expert about the country olddots May 2013 #52
Unnecessary wasteful item. socialsecurityisAAA May 2013 #54
Hope you are joking. RebelOne May 2013 #55
Not remotely. socialsecurityisAAA May 2013 #60
Price controls tend to result in shortages... Imajika May 2013 #56
Just like it was in the old Soviet Union... Archae May 2013 #58
Looks like the "Maduro can do no wrong!" phanbois are out in force. Archae May 2013 #57
you'd think with all those oil dollars coming in they'd be able to provide food and TP for Bacchus4.0 May 2013 #68
I guess Venezuelans are just shit out of luck mysuzuki2 May 2013 #69
Ironically, Maduro is an asswipe. Throd May 2013 #71
Looks like the "Make the economy scream" people are back in the saddle in DC again. leveymg May 2013 #78
"Back"? When did they ever really leave? Catherina May 2013 #80
It's Obama's Fault!!!!! Tarheel_Dem May 2013 #79
they could really learn from the USA ... marasinghe May 2013 #81
Said the poster with access to plenty of asswipe. nt Dreamer Tatum May 2013 #110
I'll just leave this here Ash_F May 2013 #85
90 replies for a TP shortage BainsBane May 2013 #91
Many are STILL wedded to the Cold War notion that Socialism=Communism... Cooley Hurd May 2013 #94
Not me. I'm wedded to the notion that authoritarian Govts are bad... brooklynite May 2013 #121
They should just borrow some from Cuba: Freddie Stubbs May 2013 #97
I blame the US. As if infecting Chavez with cancer was not enough, Nye Bevan May 2013 #99
ebay Venezuela sellers start your onsale cheap toilet paper engines! Sunlei May 2013 #104
TPTB: Toilet Paper Taking Bourgeoisie. They're behind everything Throd May 2013 #118
I would have thought this discussion would have completely unrolled by now brooklynite May 2013 #122
Why the sudden surge in demand? Democracyinkind May 2013 #128
Venezuelan food? Pterodactyl May 2013 #129
They devalued the currency by nearly 40%. joshcryer May 2013 #137
Use corporate newspapers daleo May 2013 #130
See the link below for one of the reasons. idwiyo May 2013 #132
Capriles and Uribe sued over plot to wreck Venezuela's trade with Colombia Peace Patriot May 2013 #133
Blaming the opposition there is like blaming the republicans here for our do nothing congress Exultant Democracy May 2013 #134
Agree 100%. That's why I am so shocked that some DUers openly support Venezuelan opposition. idwiyo May 2013 #135
Because the world isn't black and white. joshcryer May 2013 #140
Yet you behave like it is. Otherwise you wouldn't be advocating for RW coalition who are hell bent idwiyo May 2013 #148
Wrong, I do not believe Justice First is "right wing." joshcryer May 2013 #149
Capriles sounds progressive/left wing to me Socialistlemur May 2013 #151
I'll answer your post later. Can you please provide a link that supports your claim that Cuban idwiyo May 2013 #154
Chicken, too. The economy is a mess and the ruling regime has only themselves to blame. nt MADem May 2013 #146
I'm waiting for some deranged right winger to... Theyletmeeatcake2 May 2013 #152
Good one! Pterodactyl May 2013 #153
This toilet paper is a wonderful modern convenience Nimajneb Nilknarf May 2013 #155
Yet they have had two presidents in a row claim to be for the poor Ter May 2013 #157
I thought Johnny Carson was dead, but his statement on the Toilet paper shortages I see lives on. happyslug May 2013 #158
Venezuela: Toilet Roll Stash Found Amid Crisis Judi Lynn May 2013 #163
How is 100k rolls of toilet paper going to help a country of 30 million? You ignored the math msanthrope May 2013 #164
It would be logical to think that this is ONE example, not the ONLY example Judi Lynn May 2013 #168
No--it wouldn't be logical at all. Why? Becasue you've assumed a premise wholly without msanthrope May 2013 #169
Maybe use TP as their currency since its actually worth something Bacchus4.0 May 2013 #170
TP is so bourgeois Zorro Jun 2013 #173
Perhaps their Iranian friends can teach them the old "eat with the right, wipe with the left" 24601 May 2013 #172
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