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19. There's a local fight in a North Carolina town about prayers before city council meetings,

Sat Apr 6, 2013, 11:29 AM

Apr 2013

so a handful of legislators in the Republican-controlled General Assembly decided they could win wackadoodle friends with a bill to establish a state religion, with the usual blah-blah about the Tenth Amendment. But even most of the Republican leadership knows the bill wanders into KraaazyLand and has stated it won't go anywhere. Still, this hit the news, as bill sponsors intended, and it got the sponsors names in print, as intended, so HuffPo has decided its a hot topic to talk about

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Christianity As State Religion Supported By One-Third Of Americans, Poll Finds [View all] PolitFreak Apr 2013 OP

Then one third of Americans are trying to overthrow the government. rocktivity Apr 2013 #1

One third of Americans are total morons. Joey Liberal Apr 2013 #2

I'll go for 1/3, but really I think about RKP5637 Apr 2013 #4

Well, 47% of voters picked Rmoney and 46% Palen. mountain grammy Apr 2013 #20

Actually, less than 60% of registered voters... MoonchildCA Apr 2013 #61

And only 68% of voting age Americans are registered csziggy Apr 2013 #91

You have way more faith in Americans than I do. I'd put the total LibDemAlways Apr 2013 #41

It's always the same third FreeBC Apr 2013 #18

They're the same third that Lincoln fucked us up by not allowing to secede. Rozlee Apr 2013 #40

I feel the same way!!! SkyDaddy7 Apr 2013 #55

slave state mentality (NT) The Wizard Apr 2013 #58

Horse shit. cordelia Apr 2013 #74

LOL .... Trajan Apr 2013 #79

YES... SkyDaddy7 Apr 2013 #141

Bull shit. cordelia Apr 2013 #75

What a cogent argument. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #116

I'm not from the south...I disagree FreeBC Apr 2013 #100

Yup. nt City Lights Apr 2013 #25

Yep, US = Religious Freedom. Well, that is, my way only, not your way. How backward. Another RKP5637 Apr 2013 #3

I agree with you; I have nothing to do with religion. Religions want you to bow to their imaginary byeya Apr 2013 #11

I am both a Unitarian Universalist and a Pagan u4ic Apr 2013 #46

You may want to read this.... defacto7 Apr 2013 #62

Just Because One Chooses Not To Give Money And Blind Obedience 1ProudAtheist Apr 2013 #80

Hey... I agree! defacto7 Apr 2013 #87

I read it. Did you? u4ic Apr 2013 #145

You seem to take a position to the extreme. defacto7 Apr 2013 #147

Extreme? Ooookay. u4ic Apr 2013 #148

This is mostly thanks to the right-wing infotainment industry. Archae Apr 2013 #5

I agree Andy823 Apr 2013 #43

"Thirty-six percent of Americans think aliens have visited Earth" struggle4progress Apr 2013 #6

I understand your point but rrneck Apr 2013 #12

I'm more concerned by what folk do than by what they say they think, and silly knee-jerk reactions struggle4progress Apr 2013 #29

What they think determines what they do. rrneck Apr 2013 #35

Well, before we all set our hair ablaze and rush screaming into the night, let me remark struggle4progress Apr 2013 #84

That's a fine example of what I'm talking about. rrneck Apr 2013 #132

Yes, it's about some idiotic city council demanding to open council meetings with prayers, struggle4progress Apr 2013 #136

If it fizzled that quickly with that little support that's certainly good news rrneck Apr 2013 #140

Here's the sort of thing folks in NC should be paying attention to: struggle4progress Apr 2013 #137

Absolutely. rrneck Apr 2013 #138

Those who don't believe it are the nuts Ter Apr 2013 #133

interesting.. almost as many as believe jesus will return w/in 40 years.. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #7

I don't think he is comming in my lifetime but I do believe... hrmjustin Apr 2013 #26

far out. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #27

I think he is coming at the end of humanity. hrmjustin Apr 2013 #32

then we're both heretics, i guess. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #47

Many biblical scholars and christians believe that the Book of Revelation should not have hrmjustin Apr 2013 #48

well if christians keep cherry picking up.. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #49

You have to remember that when the NT was put together the Book of Revelation was not the only book hrmjustin Apr 2013 #53

Pickin' and choosin' which fairy tales to believe tabasco Apr 2013 #71

Well not everyone agrees it is fairy tales. hrmjustin Apr 2013 #72

yeh i read the 'lost books of the bible' cover to cover.. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #81

I am not waiting for the second coming. hrmjustin Apr 2013 #90

Actually Jesus implied that his own apostles wouldn't "taste death" before he returned... Humanist_Activist Apr 2013 #92

It is very true that the early church did think that the end was coming in their lifetimes. hrmjustin Apr 2013 #93

Aren't you implying that Jesus isn't God? I mean, can he just turn off his omniscience? Humanist_Activist Apr 2013 #94

The majority of Christians believe Jesus was not God when he was on Earth. He became divine when he hrmjustin Apr 2013 #98

So he became a demigod, kinda like Perseus or Hercules? Humanist_Activist Apr 2013 #103

Jesus was not man and God at the same time. hrmjustin Apr 2013 #106

Technically that is Orthodox doctrine, not Christian doctrine. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #110

True, Arianism and other sects were brutally suppressed... Humanist_Activist Apr 2013 #113

Where are we killing each other over the doctrine of Jesus divinity? hrmjustin Apr 2013 #115

We are talking about history, not current issues, back in the day, Christians did kill... Humanist_Activist Apr 2013 #119

Point taken but today we are not killing one another over the divinity of Christ. hrmjustin Apr 2013 #122

To bring the subthread back to point.. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #120

The KKK and Ireland was not about the divinity of Christ. hrmjustin Apr 2013 #121

The divinity of Christ violence lasted until about the 17th century. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #123

I know this but I was talking about today. hrmjustin Apr 2013 #124

I wasn't. I was talking about history this whole time. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #125

OK fair point! Than we agree that the government must be secular. hrmjustin Apr 2013 #127

Of that let there be no doubt, friend. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #128

i fail to see the difference between 2nd coming and Jesus coming back again. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #96

I accuse atheists of nothing. hrmjustin Apr 2013 #105

'We all believe what we believe.' Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #107

So what we can't believe what we want? I don't oppress anyone my friend. hrmjustin Apr 2013 #108

Oh, we CAN believe what we want. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #111

Are you implying that believers or I am insane for believing or am I just reading you wrong. hrmjustin Apr 2013 #112

What would constitute the end of humanity? Extinction? Humanist_Activist Apr 2013 #109

I do not know. hrmjustin Apr 2013 #114

I don't really expect an answer, I'm just illustrating some of the issues I have with this... Humanist_Activist Apr 2013 #117

Your point of view. hrmjustin Apr 2013 #118

Jesus will return for sure VirginiaTarheel Apr 2013 #143

See, beliefs like this is why I don't like Christians, and they frankly scare me... Humanist_Activist Apr 2013 #146

It blows my mind that people really think this dead guy will come back. Arugula Latte Apr 2013 #95

she didn't?! Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #97

I'm sorry ... there, there ... Arugula Latte Apr 2013 #99

They better prepare, as he's coming to kick their asses !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t RKP5637 Apr 2013 #101

We are a nation of idiots. n/t Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2013 #8

Three in Four Americans Believe in Paranormal struggle4progress Apr 2013 #9

I was born with ESP and I'm extremely proud that I can "Sense things" BlueJazz Apr 2013 #59

I had to give up my ESP: it was too fuggin confusin listenin t'all th'noise struggle4progress Apr 2013 #65

i had to give up my ISP. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #130

Everybody told Cleopatra to give up her ASP, but she didn't listen struggle4progress Apr 2013 #131

So... Tribalceltic Apr 2013 #10

Nope.............. danbeee46 Apr 2013 #69

Well...90% or so of Americans favor background checks for gun purchases too but... ProfessionalLeftist Apr 2013 #13

Bush's base. And McCain's , and Mitt's. n2doc Apr 2013 #14

Since it's unconstitutional - why was this EC Apr 2013 #15

There's a local fight in a North Carolina town about prayers before city council meetings, struggle4progress Apr 2013 #19

the 34% who said "not sure" are the ones who worry me. MindPilot Apr 2013 #39

Just wait until they figure out the state religion is not their version of Christianity Bjorn Against Apr 2013 #16

Major Bingo with that comment Populist_Prole Apr 2013 #45

Now that's the truth! n/t defacto7 Apr 2013 #63

Idiocracy is a documentary. hobbit709 Apr 2013 #17

It really is. I laughed through my tears. mountain grammy Apr 2013 #85

A "national HuffPost/YouGov" poll? Oh, please. PSPS Apr 2013 #21

^^^^^This^^^^^ love_katz Apr 2013 #31

Religion is disgusting Stainless Apr 2013 #22

I had a psych professor once who thought mental rigidity should be a psych diagnosis. hue Apr 2013 #23

It has everything to do with the man running the State of North Carolina tincanguy Apr 2013 #24

Its the same buch who thinks Jeebus rode dinosaurs and there was an ark. we can do it Apr 2013 #28

I heartily approve of a state religion if excringency Apr 2013 #30

I really wish we had an alternative reality where we could watch this sort of thing play out. Jerry442 Apr 2013 #33

mannn... that would be *really* useful. :) Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #50

People who love the constitution but understand neither the letter nor spirit of it on point Apr 2013 #34

But WHICH SECT of Christianity? DissidentVoice Apr 2013 #36

Ya know, If I didn't have to have a front row seat, and could observe from a safe distance...... wandy Apr 2013 #51

I probably would go like this.... defacto7 Apr 2013 #66

There's plenty of differences between the sects themselves. mwooldri Apr 2013 #89

Enough of a difference to fight many the religious war over. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #104

While the other 2/3 of us have actually read the Constitution (nt) UrbScotty Apr 2013 #37

These people who support a state religion somehow think this makes them holier than thou. bulloney Apr 2013 #38

My read of The Gospel suggests that would be the opposite of the life of Christ, his anti-life. patrice Apr 2013 #42

I agree with the OP iandhr Apr 2013 #44

Didn't O'Reilly declare awhile back that christianity is not a religion it's a philosophy? classof56 Apr 2013 #52

Its the same folks who are terrified of Shria law. JoePhilly Apr 2013 #54

It would end badly Wolf Frankula Apr 2013 #56

The majority still rules in this country. We need to work hard to insure it always does. appleannie1 Apr 2013 #57

You can fool some of the people some of the time, part of the people... Agnosticsherbet Apr 2013 #60

Notice how the headline emphasizes the minority opinion. drm604 Apr 2013 #64

One third... Why Syzygy Apr 2013 #67

And politicians support it too sakabatou Apr 2013 #68

The 47% come through again The Second Stone Apr 2013 #70

What Denomination of Christianity? dtotire Apr 2013 #73

Which version of "Christianity"? LoisB Apr 2013 #76

One third is NOT "widespread support." mac56 Apr 2013 #77

Morons know no history. Their "brand" of religion is largely heretical... Hekate Apr 2013 #78

One can only assume these are the same people OldHippieChick Apr 2013 #82

Having a state religion of Christianity is far too broad. mwooldri Apr 2013 #83

Lest We Forget 1ProudAtheist Apr 2013 #86

My sister in law says "it's all in God's hands. He will decide what happens." mountain grammy Apr 2013 #88

No it's not. It's in Vishnu's hands..... paleotn Apr 2013 #129

That's media bias for you. "Wide spread support". Clearly there is even wider brewens Apr 2013 #102

The same third as the Booosch dead-enders truebluegreen Apr 2013 #126

How is 34% xxqqqzme Apr 2013 #134

34% want The USA to be another Iran. blkmusclmachine Apr 2013 #135

The Constitution: You're doin' it wrong n/t MountainLaurel Apr 2013 #139

which is to say 2/3rds do not, which is a good number of sensible people for one country to have La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2013 #142

Our eduction system is not doing an adequate job of teaching the basics of US history or civics slackmaster Apr 2013 #144