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Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
27. It's a 75 year current Liability
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 11:22 AM
Feb 2013

Assets=Liability + Equity

Meaning at the beginning of each fiscal year. The Post Office starts out. 5.5 billion in the hole. BEFORE you figure in interest expense and health care adjustments.

So they start in debt. One sec into the new year.

In financial accounting, a liability is defined as an obligation of an entity arising from past transactions or events, the settlement of which may result in the transfer or use of assets, provision of services or other yielding of economic benefits in the future.

"At the heart of the matter is a 2006 Congressional mandate put on the US Postal Service contained in the “Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act of 2006” to pre-fund healthcare benefits of future retirees, a 75 year liability over a 10 year period.

This provision costs the Postal Service $5.5 billion a year. When you add in an adjustment that was made in how workers’ compensation costs were calculated based on interest rate assumptions and long term predictions concerning health care and compensation of $2.5 billion (a non cash accounting adjustment), you come up with $8 billion in cost.

Actual loss was $500 million and when added, comes to the $8.5 billion reported for 2010. While $500 million is a lot, it doesn’t compare with $8.5 billion and is down from the previous year loss of $1 billion.

If you took out the onerous pre-funding mandate, the Postal Service actually shows a $700 million profit over the last four years instead of the $20 billion loss.

The Postal Union has been trying to get Congress to authorize the transfer of the Postal Service’s money estimated to be between $50 billion and $75 billion overpaid in the Civil Service Retirement System transferred into the PSRHBF."

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The only reason the USPS is losing money is that the republicans made it fund ..... Botany Feb 2013 #1
That's not technically true naaman fletcher Feb 2013 #2
It didn't "lose" money, any more than Doctor_J Feb 2013 #4
Hold on: naaman fletcher Feb 2013 #5
and like I said, it is a public service Doctor_J Feb 2013 #7
You can wish it to be that way, naaman fletcher Feb 2013 #8
Post removed Post removed Feb 2013 #13
+1 Katashi_itto Feb 2013 #14
I can't plus one the original bitchkitty Feb 2013 #70
+2 mac56 Feb 2013 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Feb 2013 #25
+4 RKP5637 Feb 2013 #51
4 people give a thumbs up to a comment and the comment is removed? Bay Boy Feb 2013 #66
Someone called someone else a troll. n/t RKP5637 Feb 2013 #68
Why can't everybody just get along? Bay Boy Feb 2013 #69
It's DU! RKP5637 Feb 2013 #72
You can still read it, you just can't reply to it. bitchkitty Feb 2013 #71
Main reason for problem Katashi_itto Feb 2013 #15
I'm perfectly aware of that. naaman fletcher Feb 2013 #16
Umm... you told me that the 75 year requirement mac56 Feb 2013 #20
I told you naaman fletcher Feb 2013 #21
It's a 75 year current Liability Katashi_itto Feb 2013 #27
OK thanks naaman fletcher Feb 2013 #28
I am working on my CPA...its rated as a "current" liability Katashi_itto Feb 2013 #29
I have no problem, naaman fletcher Feb 2013 #32
I agree, hell I didnt even know you could classify an obvious long term Note as a "current Liability Katashi_itto Feb 2013 #33
yup mac56 Feb 2013 #18
2 billion an hour?? michigandem58 Feb 2013 #54
No. 17.5 trillion a year. Kind of expensive. joeglow3 Feb 2013 #60
Ha! Thanks, I slipped a decimal michigandem58 Feb 2013 #61
Why can't the new Dem Senate and WH overturn that law that Bush & Issa cooked up Doctor_J Feb 2013 #3
why?..i`m betting they do`t really care madrchsod Feb 2013 #12
One of my biggest beefs with the Democratic party beerandjesus Feb 2013 #24
If they did they'd say something think Feb 2013 #52
Because it was a bipartisan bill that received unanimous Dem support in the Senate? hack89 Feb 2013 #26
Mondays? anokaflash Feb 2013 #6
I think they are keeping the post offices open saturday naaman fletcher Feb 2013 #9
That is correct. subterranean Feb 2013 #38
If they are racking up delivery costs, why not deliver 1st class mail then? dixiegrrrrl Feb 2013 #44
+1 sketchy Feb 2013 #46
yeah heaven05 Feb 2013 #10
No other agency? Try no other entity! RoccoR5955 Feb 2013 #17
death by a thousand paper cuts.... madrchsod Feb 2013 #11
I just wish they would quit filling up my mailbox with junk mail. Brigid Feb 2013 #22
Junk mail is annoying. mac56 Feb 2013 #23
You can get it stopped. They_Live Feb 2013 #59
Thanks. Brigid Feb 2013 #63
A must-read on the topic, from back in 2007. mac56 Feb 2013 #30
Just stop delivering mail to Republicans. nt onehandle Feb 2013 #31
I wonder if they can stop checking the mail for contaminents? napi21 Feb 2013 #37
How are they going to do this w/out Congressional approval?! sketchy Feb 2013 #34
Isn't it good news that mail carriers will now get Saturdays off? (nt) Nye Bevan Feb 2013 #35
And once the Republicans have their way, the new privatized service will be GREAT. NOT! Gregorian Feb 2013 #36
Germany and Japan tried it. First class postage is about double what we pay. And Japan went back tclambert Feb 2013 #40
The thing about the Japanese post office Art_from_Ark Feb 2013 #85
I've read the entire thread and I... Bay Boy Feb 2013 #39
you could get the same volume of mail in one day of delivery as well. uncle ray Feb 2013 #47
Well, as long as you're not inconvenienced any. That's the main thing. mac56 Feb 2013 #49
I'm guessing sarcasm... Bay Boy Feb 2013 #73
Guessed that, did ya? mac56 Feb 2013 #76
As the traitor republicans rub their hands together in smirking glee NBachers Feb 2013 #41
The GOP did not kill the USPS CalFresh Feb 2013 #42
You couldn't be more wrong. mac56 Feb 2013 #48
I pay my CalFresh Feb 2013 #56
There's a very significant difference that you are ignoring. mac56 Feb 2013 #58
I don't think CalFresh Feb 2013 #62
The internet is NOT killing the USPS. mac56 Feb 2013 #65
You are not in the 21st century. former9thward Feb 2013 #74
I pay no bills online and I'm not alone in that. mac56 Feb 2013 #77
Hudreds of millions of transactions go on every day. former9thward Feb 2013 #78
Almost. mac56 Feb 2013 #79
There are always people who wish to deny and defy technology. former9thward Feb 2013 #80
Please don't kill CalFresh Feb 2013 #82
"They die off soon enough..." mac56 Feb 2013 #83
What do you mean by "you guys"? Are you not one of us... ChisolmTrailDem Feb 2013 #81
The USPS would make a handsome profit if it charged the same postage rates as Canada, tclambert Feb 2013 #43
What they need to do is to increase postal rates on other than first class and packages. FarCenter Feb 2013 #55
I agree. Business mail should pay for itself, not rely on first class mail to subsidize it. tclambert Feb 2013 #67
The exact opposite is true. former9thward Feb 2013 #84
K & R sketchy Feb 2013 #45
Do they or don't they need Congressional approval for this?? sketchy Feb 2013 #50
Once again, privatization fails. aquart Feb 2013 #53
Vicious cycle (good post in another thread by Hay rick) sketchy Feb 2013 #57
They win again! RandiFan1290 Feb 2013 #64
kick n/t sketchy Feb 2013 #75
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