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21. To me, "virtually final" was a way to help explain the siginficance of this amendment being offered...

Tue Jul 2, 2024, 11:33 AM

Jul 2

...i.e. that it was one of only two ways to "fix" the situation, neither of which is easy. Since the whole foundation of the article was the offering of this amendment, I think that was a fair point to make. I think it IS virtually (that is, "almost" ) final, it is indeed very hard to change it, it's certainly not something that will happen overnight, and these are the only paths to address it, only one of which is even conceivably under our control, at least as long as the current justices are sitting on the court.

Your additional idea of legislation is interesting, though also challenging without control of both houses, and I think, itself, possibly not immune from being struck down by the same court, if challenged...?

But tough as it may be, we have to keep trying to find ways to fight bad decisions. Sometimes bad decisions do ultimately get reversed, even if it takes many years. (I'm hoping I live long enough to see a reversal on Citizens United.)

Even a proposed constitutional amendment that seems likely to go nowhere serves a purpose, in promoting awareness, and maybe, eventually, success. I mean, we still haven't given up on the ERA.

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New York Dem will introduce amendment to reverse Supreme Court immunity ruling [View all] BumRushDaShow Jul 2 OP

Add to the amendment an ethics code, 18 year term limits and other sensible reforms Pepsidog Jul 2 #1

Not IF, but when. aeromanKC Jul 2 #2

Visibility is beneficial even if it's going nowhere now. /nt bucolic_frolic Jul 2 #3

I am not as worried about this type of immunity Farmer-Rick Jul 2 #4

This is little more than theatre at this time, it is going nowhere and everyone knows it. Bev54 Jul 2 #5

Ah, the inevitable naysayer NJCher Jul 2 #6

There currently are not enough votes in Congress to meet wnylib Jul 2 #9

It might NJCher Jul 2 #12

I hope that's true because, to pass it, we will need wnylib Jul 2 #16

Yes NJCher Jul 2 #22

No, I am not a writer. Not professionally anyway. wnylib Jul 2 #24

-- NJCher Jul 2 #25

"I am not saying that we shouldn't try it" BumRushDaShow Jul 2 #14

I am hardly a naysayer, quite the opposite but I am realistic. Bev54 Jul 2 #30

"Solutions need to be realistic" BumRushDaShow Jul 2 #7

Oh and have you noticed NJCher Jul 2 #8

You sure are quick to label someone, instead of calling someone down, maybe just make your argument. Bev54 Jul 2 #31

I don't need your help in what to post NJCher Jul 2 #35

Such a lovely person Bev54 Jul 2 #37

You can call it theater, but it is important to do everything we can to bring this to the attention of the public. Many Martin68 Jul 2 #29

Even if we could get the votes Miguelito Loveless Jul 2 #10

Where did he say that? NJCher Jul 2 #11

Have you been reading the rulings of late? Miguelito Loveless Jul 2 #17

of course NJCher Jul 2 #23

That does not mean you have read the ruling Bev54 Jul 2 #32

here ya' go NJCher Jul 2 #33

Roberts actually walked back some of the Clarence Thomas-written "Bruen" decision BumRushDaShow Jul 2 #28

Dead on arrival The Grand Illuminist Jul 2 #13

re: "the judgement is virtually final" -- "No it's not." thesquanderer Jul 2 #15

My complaint WAS about how it was phrased BumRushDaShow Jul 2 #18

To me, "virtually final" was a way to help explain the siginficance of this amendment being offered... thesquanderer Jul 2 #21

To follow-up BumRushDaShow Jul 2 #27

I hope I live to see the day when this SCOTUS ruling is declared null and void FakeNoose Jul 2 #19

Worth a shot. BlueWavePsych Jul 2 #20

Just wondering.... MorbidButterflyTat Jul 2 #26

Do it and good luck to you. republianmushroom Jul 2 #34

Question, Would the lynching of the VP been cover as an official act, republianmushroom Jul 2 #36