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Bernardo de La Paz

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16. Shorting is not illegal, but naked shorting is illegal
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 09:49 AM
Apr 2024

Shorting is 1) Borrowing shares, 2) Selling them immediately, 3) waiting for anticipated price drop, 4) buying the same number of shares to take limited profit or to stop unlimited loss, 5) returning the borrowed shares.

Naked shorting skips steps 1 and 5. It manipulates the market because the number of shares being traded exceeds the number of shares nominally available to be traded. In sufficient quantity, the selling in step 2 depresses the price. In regular shorting, step 2 does not artificially depress the price. It does depress the price in the same way that the price would have been depressed if the actual owner of the shares sold them. In naked shorting, there is no actual owner, hence market distortion.

Projection. Wonder what foreign entities are riding the waves? /nt bucolic_frolic Apr 2024 #1
Is shorting illegal or against the rules? underpants Apr 2024 #2
I saw and scanned an article BumRushDaShow Apr 2024 #6
Sounds like naked shorting is illegal Captain Zero Apr 2024 #9
Yes, it is. paleotn Apr 2024 #15
Well, naked short selling isn't really illegal, it's just that if you get caught, w/ the short underway, and the SWBTATTReg Apr 2024 #39
trump does not need to understand the game rampartc Apr 2024 #12
Nonsense. tRump is not "destroying wall st". Wall Street barely senses DJT trades. DJT is a tiny blip Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2024 #19
do you think this blatant insider trading rampartc Apr 2024 #57
Insider trading is not short selling or naked short selling. Stocks like DJT are nothing new. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2024 #58
Shorting is not illegal, but naked shorting is illegal Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2024 #16
Thanks. I skipped a step but I learned something from you underpants Apr 2024 #25
For years I have been trying to understand short selling rurallib Apr 2024 #31
Yes, it's illegal. A type of fraud. paleotn Apr 2024 #18
Thanks underpants Apr 2024 #27
I was thinking the same thing TexasBushwhacker Apr 2024 #22
See 16 & 18 underpants Apr 2024 #26
Short selling is legal melm00se Apr 2024 #38
Yesterday trump issued instructions to try to keep investors from short selling. captain queeg Apr 2024 #3
in order to legally execute a short sale rampartc Apr 2024 #13
Hahaha! "Wahhh! Their short selling is interfering with my pump and dump manipulation!" unblock Apr 2024 #4
Yet more incessent whining. C_U_L8R Apr 2024 #5
Trump whines more than anyone I've ever seen. Haggard Celine Apr 2024 #44
Manipulation at it's best FredGarvin Apr 2024 #7
Ha ha! CrispyQ Apr 2024 #8
Yeah, I think that's a pretty safe bet PatSeg Apr 2024 #14
I'm patiently waiting for Prince Bonesaw and russki Oligarchs (and gawd knows who else) to step in........ wolfie001 Apr 2024 #10
Suddenly R/W media care about naked shorting. They only ever care when it helps them. Doodley Apr 2024 #11
Down to 17.01 no_hypocrisy Apr 2024 #17
Oh my. BumRushDaShow Apr 2024 #20
My bad. Looking at DJTW. Wrong one. no_hypocrisy Apr 2024 #21
Ah okay... BumRushDaShow Apr 2024 #24
Where Did You See Tgat? ProfessorGAC Apr 2024 #54
I made a mistake. Quoted DJTWW, not DJT. no_hypocrisy Apr 2024 #55
Oh, Another Worthless Stock ProfessorGAC Apr 2024 #56
Found what I was looking for! Looked for more definition about short selling Marthe48 Apr 2024 #23
There was a movie out last year called "Dumb Money" FakeNoose Apr 2024 #30
I skimmed through an explanation on Investopedia Marthe48 Apr 2024 #32
It wasn't even 30 years ago - it was 3 years ago and I remember the wild stuff happening BumRushDaShow Apr 2024 #33
OK thanks for correcting me FakeNoose Apr 2024 #45
GameStop was probably around then BumRushDaShow Apr 2024 #48
Yep, that's when I used to shop at GameStop FakeNoose Apr 2024 #49
Yes BumRushDaShow Apr 2024 #51
Okay... jmowreader Apr 2024 #60
But didn't DJT also just file to dump an additional... Mawspam2 Apr 2024 #28
This is srsly like a pimp complaining to the FBI... Hugin Apr 2024 #29
Perfect Analogy! Captain Zero Apr 2024 #34
+1 dalton99a Apr 2024 #35
The quick answer is: hadEnuf Apr 2024 #36
"sophisticated market participants profiting at the expense of retail investors" - sums up how the stock market works. PSPS Apr 2024 #37
Exactly. The little guy/gal doesn't matter one wit. One is best off not dealing in this market, being that SWBTATTReg Apr 2024 #40
Stock market scammers talk about "naked shorts" and DRS in order to fleece retail suckers mathematic Apr 2024 #41
Thanks for this background info FakeNoose Apr 2024 #46
Accuse with no facts. Very trumpian. ZonkerHarris Apr 2024 #42
If a conservative is complaining about someone doing a crime, the odds are really good you already know who is doing it PurgedVoter Apr 2024 #43
We've seen it too many times, it's one of Chump's favorite strategies FakeNoose Apr 2024 #47
I figured something was going on. We shall see! Karma13612 Apr 2024 #50
Everything this guy touches..every thing..chaos is not far behind Deuxcents Apr 2024 #52
This absolutely needs to be fixed IbogaProject Apr 2024 #53
The company is less than worthless. ThoughtCriminal Apr 2024 #59
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