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In reply to the discussion: Alabama Supreme Court Rules That Frozen Embryos Are 'Children' [View all]muriel_volestrangler
(101,603 posts)52. Yeah; the judge implied the "image of God" stuff from one use of "Almighty God" in the preamble
of the Alabama constitution:
We, the people of the State of Alabama, in order to establish justice, insure domestic tranquillity, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, invoking the favor and guidance of Almighty God, do ordain and establish the following Constitution and form of government for the State of Alabama
Hmm, wonder where they picked up that wording from? Why, from the treasonous, slave-holding Confederate States, of course:
Document: Constitution of the Confederate States of America Preamble
We, the people of the Confederate States, each State acting in its sovereign and independent character, in order to form a permanent federal government, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity invoking the favor and guidance of Almighty God do ordain and establish this Constitution for the Confederate States of America.
https://www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/disp_textbook.cfm?smtID=3&psid=3968
We, the people of the Confederate States, each State acting in its sovereign and independent character, in order to form a permanent federal government, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity invoking the favor and guidance of Almighty God do ordain and establish this Constitution for the Confederate States of America.
https://www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/disp_textbook.cfm?smtID=3&psid=3968
"God" then appears in the constitution only to say people have the right to worship God, and in a wording of an oath - nowhere else. So his argument is built on a hypocritical invocation of God by slave-owners.
The fundamentalist judge quotes endless Christians from centuries ago to justify his claim that blastocysts are "the image of God" (many from the time when no one had even seen an egg, sperm or newly-fertilized blastocyst, and had no idea of genes, chromosomes or anything else that conception involves). He's got Calvin and Thomas Aquinas on his side, guys! He quotes Blackstone, a British judge favoured by conservatives in love with the 18th century, and though he gives Blackstone's view that life "begins in contemplation of law as soon as an infant is able to stir in the mother's womb", he then contradicts that by saying "Similarly, Alabama law has recognized that human life begins at conception" - when, of course, that is not "similar", but "quite different".
If this opinion were given by a lower court, and a non-fundamentalist superior judge got a chance to review it, they'd rip it to shreds as completely un-American, and an attempt to establish a state religion.
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So, then by the "logic" of the AL Supreme Court, if a freezer holding frozen embryos
no_hypocrisy
Feb 2024
#1
The entire Gulf Coast is clusterfuck sponsored by the Republican clowns of the apocalypse.
Magoo48
Feb 2024
#34
Should spawn an embryo tax-deduction Trust Fund, IRA, Social Security, Stim Check scheme
bucolic_frolic
Feb 2024
#3
Deductions for college savings accounts - perhaps the state will kick in some matching funds
EYESORE 9001
Feb 2024
#4
Every "child/embryo" should count in the census for the state they are located
BumRushDaShow
Feb 2024
#5
so if they place that keeps them frozen loses power and the embryos are not longer viable...
Javaman
Feb 2024
#7
"After a divorce, does an ex-spouse have the right to the embryos and collect child support"
BumRushDaShow
Feb 2024
#12
For the purpose of this discussion is the embryo and egg or a fertilized egg in the true biological sense?
usaf-vet
Feb 2024
#29
Small towns could now afford zoos of their own. Or have a traveling zoo in a box!
Wonder Why
Feb 2024
#32
An accident. They thought it was where the staff kept the ice cream containers and they wanted some butter pecan.
Wonder Why
Feb 2024
#33
What about the millions of sperm spilled daily by each man in AL? I could go much further on "wasted" sperm.
keopeli
Feb 2024
#25
So the buildings on fire, you can only save one. Live little baby lying in a crib or a box holding a hundred embryos.
OverBurn
Feb 2024
#38
Alabama Constitution Section 36.06, which argues that each person was made in God's image
pfitz59
Feb 2024
#42
Yeah; the judge implied the "image of God" stuff from one use of "Almighty God" in the preamble
muriel_volestrangler
Feb 2024
#52
The reliance on types of Christianity in the ruling is worse than the Huff Post report says
muriel_volestrangler
Feb 2024
#48