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Big Blue Marble

(5,174 posts)
41. Sorry, revmclaren
Sat Dec 16, 2023, 05:11 PM
Dec 2023

That is horrible. Pretty much makes me cry that someone here would be so vile to you.

I had no intention of reporting you or even alerting the post. I was not following you
around only responding to several of your posts which just happened to be on the. same
thread.

We will just have to disagree on who is the victim. As a student of the Middle East for
over four decades, I know this conflict is complicated. Israel has occupied Palestinian
lands with increasing brutality and cruelty while continuing to steal territories
from the Palestinian people while putting over million Palestinians men in prison for resisting
the onslaught.

The 800,000 illegal settlers have added much intensity to this cruelty. Often they destroy
Palestinian homes, harass, and even kill Palestinian farmers and others in an effort to drive
them from their lands under the protection of the IDF These lived experiences continue to
breed increasing anger and resistance throughout the occupied lands

We are in full agreement, that Hamas in all their horrible violent behavior and evil goals of
genocide is the cause of this most recent horrific attack. The people of southern Israel were
the victims of of nightmarish atrocities and all Israelis as well as Jews everywhere feel
endangered by the assault.

Both sides of this conflict have contributed to the increasing spiral of violence and
it is obvious from this terrifying attack by Hamas, that each side must find a non-violent
solution that helps both peoples live in safety and security.






We only find out about this one because it was hostages. How many times did RockRaven Dec 2023 #1
Yeah I asked that in another thread yesterday... AloeVera Dec 2023 #38
Yep, it'd happened before for sure ArkansasDemocrat1 Dec 2023 #67
Israeli authorities are taking responsibility for this event revmclaren Dec 2023 #2
They are taking responsibility for it. The blame still belongs to hamas. Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #5
True. I'll edit . revmclaren Dec 2023 #7
So they get a brownie point for being honest? And that's NOT the point anyway. see text below:: TeamProg Dec 2023 #8
If that's what you choose to call it, yes, they absolutely do. Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #53
Since the hostages' FAMILIES are demanding it, YES, it needs repeating. Over and over and over. TeamProg Dec 2023 #65
Far be it from you to repeat anything on behalf of the hostage families. Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #69
This is what happens when you teach your soldiers to hate and allow Wonder Why Dec 2023 #3
How would you respond to an enemy that Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #6
This is about getting hostages back, right? Not a 'kill'em all and let God sort them out' type of thing. Perhaps that TeamProg Dec 2023 #11
So you haven't the faintest clue how to respond to an enemy that doesn't give a flying feck about rules of war. Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #37
You can keep moving those goal posts, but you will never find an answer that you like. nt TeamProg Dec 2023 #39
So you don't have an answer of your own, nor do you want to choose from the four options I offered. Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #49
No, getting the hostages back is secondary, primary is destroying Hamas as governing power in Gaza EX500rider Dec 2023 #61
Close but not quite on target. The existence of hostages is Israel's excuse for a full blown destruction of Gaza + its TeamProg Dec 2023 #64
No I guarantee you if they had not taken any hotages but killed them all EX500rider Dec 2023 #66
Being suspicious is entirely different than just shooting them down. Wonder Why Dec 2023 #60
It is Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #62
You realize you are also describing the reality for Palestinian civilians right now, don't you? NH Ethylene Dec 2023 #73
No, this is not the case at all. Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #74
They have admitted to 3....and a few journalists. Runningdawg Dec 2023 #4
If the journalists are imbeded with Hamas, revmclaren Dec 2023 #9
The journalists are not embedded with Hamas. They are showing the world what Israel does not want us to see. Big Blue Marble Dec 2023 #19
You know this how? revmclaren Dec 2023 #21
Well if you follow the news, the Rutger's reporters were not in an area of combat Big Blue Marble Dec 2023 #25
I'll be the first to cede to your statement revmclaren Dec 2023 #30
If you really are interested in details of these killings, Big Blue Marble Dec 2023 #42
This is a very thorough article Chi67 Dec 2023 #47
Thanks for adding that link. N/T Big Blue Marble Dec 2023 #51
I see...no links. revmclaren Dec 2023 #50
Welcome back posting. revmclaren Dec 2023 #10
Actually, the number of journalists murdered is 35. Haggis 4 Breakfast Dec 2023 #72
The Hannibal Directive WhatTheFlux Dec 2023 #12
That conspiracy theory is voided by revmclaren Dec 2023 #14
Welcome to DU. revmclaren Dec 2023 #16
The Hannibal protocol is no longer in effect. ShazzieB Dec 2023 #44
This isn't isn't IDF policy. lapucelle Dec 2023 #45
If Hamas had not kidnapped these individuals TexasDem69 Dec 2023 #13
If *Israeli "settlers" weren't illegally invading and occupying Palestinians' land*, Hamas wouldn't have been TeamProg Dec 2023 #15
So you are blaming the victims of Hamas revmclaren Dec 2023 #17
The poster is blaming the policies of an apartheid right-wing government Big Blue Marble Dec 2023 #20
That is victim blaming. revmclaren Dec 2023 #23
That is not victim blaming. Big Blue Marble Dec 2023 #28
It is victim blaming. revmclaren Dec 2023 #33
Sorry, revmclaren Big Blue Marble Dec 2023 #41
We are also in agreement that Netanyahu revmclaren Dec 2023 #55
Yes, he has to go and with the far right ministers who are controlling him Big Blue Marble Dec 2023 #56
No, that's unreasonable stretch to say the least. Don't put words in my mouth. Snd TeamProg Dec 2023 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author TeamProg Dec 2023 #27
So now you are excusing Hamas' attacks TexasDem69 Dec 2023 #18
Who killed he three hostages again? TeamProg Dec 2023 #22
OMG. Did you actually post that? revmclaren Dec 2023 #26
Three dead hostages, not "soldiers". You are mistaken. TeamProg Dec 2023 #31
Sorry...hostages. revmclaren Dec 2023 #34
Of COURSE it's because of the occupation (and the internment)! At least you agree that Palestinian's rightful land has TeamProg Dec 2023 #40
The three hostages were killed by Hamas. RandomNumbers Dec 2023 #43
So, I post what is considered international law and you post TeamProg Dec 2023 #29
There is so much blame to go around. It's impossible to justify all the killing. Srkdqltr Dec 2023 #32
Hear! Hear! But would Bibi stop? Doesn't look that way. TeamProg Dec 2023 #35
The problem is that if you go back 10 years for blame others will go back 20. Srkdqltr Dec 2023 #36
Maybe . . .just go back to 1947 and say . . . Aussie105 Dec 2023 #57
If only. Sad words and way too true. Srkdqltr Dec 2023 #58
Senator Sanders spoke about a ceasfire on December 9 on Face the Nation. lapucelle Dec 2023 #48
IDF soldiers are shooting shirtless civilians holding white flags and no weapons IronLionZion Dec 2023 #46
Soldier...not soldiers. revmclaren Dec 2023 #52
"Hamas kills civilians too" is not the best excuse IronLionZion Dec 2023 #54
So sorry. Aussie105 Dec 2023 #59
Again, that is not the point. Read again, please:: TeamProg Dec 2023 #63
This happens in war. Friendly fire kills just as well as enemy fire. Kennah Dec 2023 #68
Yeah, quite common EX500rider Dec 2023 #70
Wiki has it at 24% - 35 of 148, and it didn't stop when the fighting ended Kennah Dec 2023 #71
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