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BumRushDaShow

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Sat May 27, 2023, 08:38 PM May 2023

White House and G.O.P. Strike Debt Limit Deal to Avert Default [View all]

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Source: New York Times

President Biden and Speaker Kevin McCarthy on Saturday reached an agreement in principle to raise the debt limit for two years while cutting and capping some government spending over the same period, a breakthrough after a marathon set of crisis talks that has brought the nation within days of its first default in history.

Congressional passage of the plan before June 5, when the Treasury is projected to exhaust its ability to pay its obligations, is not assured, particularly in the House, which plans to consider it on Wednesday. Republicans hold a narrow majority in the chamber, and right-wing lawmakers who had demanded significantly larger budget cuts in exchange for lifting the borrowing limit were already in revolt.

But the compromise, which would effectively freeze federal spending that had been on track to grow, had the blessing of both the Democratic president and the Republican speaker, raising hopes that it could break the fiscal stalemate that has gripped Washington and the nation for weeks, threatening an economic crisis.

Mr. Biden urged the House and Senate to pass the agreement in a late-night statement issued by the White House, saying it would prevent a catastrophic default. "It is an important step forward that reduces spending while protecting critical programs for working people and growing the economy for everyone," Mr. Biden said. "And the agreement protects my and congressional Democrats' key priorities and legislative accomplishments. The agreement represents a compromise, which means not everyone gets what they want."

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President Biden and Speaker Kevin McCarthy on Saturday reached an agreement in principle to raise the debt limit for two years while cutting and capping some government spending over the same period, a breakthrough after a marathon set of crisis talks that has brought the nation within days of its first default in history. Congressional passage of the plan before June 5, when the Treasury is projected to exhaust its ability to pay its obligations, is not assured, particularly in the House, which plans to consider it on Wednesday.
Republicans hold a narrow majority in the chamber, and right-wing lawmakers who had demanded significantly larger budget cuts in exchange for lifting the borrowing limit were already in revolt.

But the compromise, which would effectively freeze federal spending that had been on track to grow, had the blessing of both the Democratic president and the Republican speaker, raising hopes that it could break the fiscal stalemate that has gripped Washington and the nation for weeks, threatening an economic crisis. The two spoke by phone on Saturday evening to resolve final sticking points. In a nighttime news conference outside his Capitol office that lasted just one minute, Mr. McCarthy said the deal contained "historic reductions in spending, consequential reforms that will lift people out of poverty into the work force, rein in government overreach" and would add no new taxes.

He declined to answer questions or provide specifics, but said he planned to release legislative text on Sunday, ahead of the Wednesday vote. "We still have more work to do tonight to finish all the writing of it," he said. The plan was structured with the aim of enticing votes from both parties, though it has drawn the ire not only of conservative Republicans but also Democrats furious at being asked to vote for cuts they oppose with the threat of default looming. Still, it gives Republicans the ability to say that they succeeded in reducing some federal spending -- even as funding for the military and veterans' programs would continue to grow -- while allowing Democrats to say they spared most domestic programs from significant cuts.

The deal would raise the borrowing limit, which is currently $31.4 trillion, for two years -- enough to get past the next presidential election. According to a person familiar with the agreement, it also would impose new work requirements for some recipients of government aid, including food stamps and the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families program. It would place new limits on the amount of time that certain recipients of food stamps -- people under the age of 54, who do not have children -- could benefit from the program. But it also would expand food stamp access for veterans and the homeless, said the person, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss details of the package.



Top White House and Republican negotiators on Saturday reached an agreement in principle to raise the debt limit for two years while cutting and capping some government spending over the same period, a breakthrough after a marathon set of crisis talks that has brought the nation within days of its first default in history. Congressional passage of the plan before June 5, when the Treasury is projected to exhaust its ability to pay its obligations, is not assured, particularly in the House.

Republicans hold a narrow majority in the chamber, and right-wing lawmakers who had demanded significantly larger budget cuts in exchange for lifting the borrowing limit are all but certain to revolt. But the compromise, which would effectively freeze federal spending that had been on track to grow, had the blessing of both President Biden and Speaker Kevin McCarthy, raising hopes that it could break the fiscal stalemate that has gripped Washington and the nation for weeks, threatening an economic crisis. The two spoke by phone on Saturday evening to resolve final sticking points.

In a tweet, Mr. McCarthy called it "an agreement in principle that is worthy of the American people." The plan was structured with the aim of enticing votes from both parties, though it has drawn the ire not only of conservative Republicans but also Democrats furious at being asked to vote for cuts they oppose with the threat of default looming. Still, it gives Republicans the ability to say that they succeeded in reducing some federal spending -- even as funding for the military and veterans' programs would continue to grow -- while allowing Democrats to say they spared most domestic programs from significant cuts.

The deal, which was still being finalized and written on Saturday night, would raise the borrowing limit, which is currently $31.4 trillion, for two years -- enough to get past the next presidential election. According to a person familiar with the agreement, the deal also would impose new work requirements for some recipients of government aid, including food stamps and the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families program. It would put new limits on the amount of time that certain recipients of food stamps -- people under the age of 54, who do not have children -- could benefit from the program. But it also would expand food stamp access for veterans and the homeless.



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Top White House and Republican negotiators on Saturday reached a deal in principle to raise the debt limit for two years while cutting and capping some government spending over the same period, a breakthrough after a marathon set of crisis talks that has brought the nation within days of its first default in history, three people familiar with the agreement said.

Congressional passage of the plan before June 5, when the Treasury is projected to exhaust its ability to pay its obligations, was not assured, particularly in the House. Republicans hold a narrow majority in the chamber, and right-wing lawmakers who had demanded significantly larger budget cuts in exchange for lifting the borrowing limit are all but certain to revolt.

But the compromise, which would effectively freeze federal spending that had been on track to grow, had the blessing of both President Biden and Speaker Kevin McCarthy, raising hopes that it could break the fiscal stalemate that has gripped Washington and the nation for weeks, threatening an economic crisis. The two spoke by phone on Saturday evening to resolve final sticking points.

The people who spoke about the deal did so on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to comment publicly in advance of a formal announcement.
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what did we loose ? AllaN01Bear May 2023 #1
What did we tighten? BeyondGeography May 2023 #2
Hopefully the figurative noose dflprincess May 2023 #25
Now, now, be tolerant! DFW May 2023 #61
On top of that BeyondGeography May 2023 #64
Lol Polybius May 2023 #94
It looks like a "freeze" on spending (vs a natural increase - often for inflation) BumRushDaShow May 2023 #3
thanks . if the rs think about getting jobs for snap people , it aint that simple AllaN01Bear May 2023 #4
and yet you'd expect income to increase ... Igel May 2023 #13
A freeze on spending looks like a win to me. Septua May 2023 #22
When I was still working as a fed BumRushDaShow May 2023 #23
So. it's not a win... Septua May 2023 #33
I wouldn't say that BumRushDaShow May 2023 #34
According to a report earlier on MSNBC... Septua May 2023 #41
Okay BumRushDaShow May 2023 #44
Let me guess MASSIVE tax cuts for the filty rich and Corporations is never spending...right? Bengus81 May 2023 #96
Jonathan Alter said that the "work requirements" that the Republicans are pushing for aren't included Rhiannon12866 May 2023 #35
There are a bunch of different programs that they have referenced BumRushDaShow May 2023 #37
John Kasich, not a surprise. He appears to have reemerged, saw him on a couple of news shows recently Rhiannon12866 May 2023 #51
They are and they aren't FBaggins May 2023 #69
You can't lose what you don't have. hay rick May 2023 #7
IRS funding. IRS brings in revenue...Biden wanted to go after wealthy tax cheats like Trump CousinIT May 2023 #71
No matter what, it's meaningless starting in Jan 2025. paleotn May 2023 #72
We loose the ability to respond to clamnities IbogaProject May 2023 #82
The MAGA wing won't pass it. They want the default. ... aggiesal May 2023 #5
Well "every bill" shouldn't have to use the "Hastert Rule" to pass something BumRushDaShow May 2023 #6
If there is any chance of the bill not passing without enough D votes, the D's will come through... bsiebs May 2023 #8
And fuck the NYT... bsiebs May 2023 #12
After the 2022 elections & we knew the (R)'s would be taking control ... aggiesal May 2023 #19
Weren't they about to - until Mancheat and Sinnerma got in the way? peppertree May 2023 #21
Note "Mr. Biden" written in the article. Bluethroughu May 2023 #38
IIRC the Times uses a person's title the first time or two, then the 'Mr., Ms., Mrs. or whatever The Mouth May 2023 #84
Their "style guide" (they call it their "Manual of Style and Usage" ). BumRushDaShow May 2023 #87
Thanks. The Mouth May 2023 #88
I have had a NYT sub since 1976 BumRushDaShow May 2023 #93
Thank you for this information. Bluethroughu May 2023 #99
But If the MAGA wing votes against it ... aggiesal May 2023 #11
That's been discussed for quite a while. Igel May 2023 #14
Define the Democratic extremist wing for me. gab13by13 May 2023 #63
They'll define themselves for you FBaggins May 2023 #66
If so, they should all lose their paychecks and benefits FakeNoose May 2023 #16
There is not enough of them to stop it. Demsrule86 May 2023 #53
Yes they do! And infighting starts now. McCarthy could lose his precious speakership over his fold. machoneman May 2023 #70
This would be the fun part! DemBlue76 May 2023 #81
Welcome to DU! RussBLib May 2023 #97
welcome to DU gopiscrap May 2023 #120
There's not enough of them and too many relatively moderate Repukes in tight districts. paleotn May 2023 #73
That's what I need to hear.. Cha May 2023 #98
Mahalo BRDS for the gift & Cha May 2023 #9
+1,000,000 highplainsdem May 2023 #36
You are welcome and hope you had a four-ever happy day too!! BumRushDaShow May 2023 #39
Hey Aloha! When I wrote Cha May 2023 #42
The Senate will probably be a bigger issue in this case BumRushDaShow May 2023 #46
Oh dear. I don't understand.. Cha May 2023 #47
For regular legislation, they need 60 votes to advance the bill to the debate stage BumRushDaShow May 2023 #49
Oh gawd.. so we could still Cha May 2023 #50
Possibly BumRushDaShow May 2023 #52
Mahalo, I appreciate your input. Cha May 2023 #57
No chance of a filibuster unless something has been misreported FBaggins May 2023 #74
Mike Lee has already indicated that he plans to gum up the works BumRushDaShow May 2023 #77
That sounds like dramatically fewer than 40 FBaggins May 2023 #78
Well you know one... and possibly 2 more BumRushDaShow May 2023 #83
You're making unfounded assumptions FBaggins May 2023 #86
"You're making it founded assumptions" BumRushDaShow May 2023 #91
All I can say is "just watch" FBaggins May 2023 #105
This is what I originally wrote as a reply in this thread - BumRushDaShow May 2023 #106
And you can now see that you were flat wrong FBaggins Jun 2023 #121
FFS. And again BumRushDaShow Jun 2023 #122
Most welcome! BumRushDaShow May 2023 #40
i dig the cut of your jib BRDS. Very good work. IMO Prairie_Seagull May 2023 #65
Thank you! BumRushDaShow May 2023 #67
We're playing with fire... Think. Again. May 2023 #10
Predictable bucolic_frolic May 2023 #15
the MAGA detestable will turn on Kevin.. agingdem May 2023 #17
And MSNBC mentioned tonight that it only takes one to demand McCarthy be removed Rhiannon12866 May 2023 #18
It takes 218 to remove him. former9thward May 2023 #26
The Republican caucus has 222 members BumRushDaShow May 2023 #32
This is why Biden was brilliant. McCarthy will need Democratic votes to retain his speakership. Demsrule86 May 2023 #54
Very well said! Rhiannon12866 May 2023 #56
Thanks! Demsrule86 May 2023 #114
If this passes Congress, perhaps people will finally come out in mass and vote Democratic JohnSJ May 2023 #20
Dems better vet better. They have failed in that PlutosHeart May 2023 #24
Russia thanks you for your input ExWhoDoesntCare May 2023 #62
And you wish to apologize? PlutosHeart May 2023 #107
Democrats are not weak. I think you are completely wrong and wish the insults towards Demsrule86 May 2023 #68
I agree overall they are not. PlutosHeart May 2023 #108
We more votes. Let's work hard to Demsrule86 May 2023 #112
I wonder how many Republican votes it's going to take to pass this in the House. LudwigPastorius May 2023 #27
One debt ceiling increase in 4 years for Biden vs 3 for Trump. Are those the right numbers? keithbvadu2 May 2023 #28
There was a "clean" debt ceiling raise done in December of 2021 BumRushDaShow May 2023 #29
Thanks! Will this one also be a joint resolution? keithbvadu2 May 2023 #43
I don't think so BumRushDaShow May 2023 #45
Now, engage the courts on using the 14th Amendment for NEXT f***n time ! 🤬 Pluvious May 2023 #30
That can't happen. former9thward May 2023 #102
For two years, past the next election. markodochartaigh May 2023 #31
So at first blush it would appear that the rich moniss May 2023 #48
You can't get tax increases when you don't hold the house...seriously, one has to look at the Demsrule86 May 2023 #55
We will never in our lifetimes moniss May 2023 #58
"We will never in our lifetimes get 60 Senate seats." BumRushDaShow May 2023 #59
I agree with you moniss May 2023 #90
You never know BumRushDaShow May 2023 #95
The whole structure of the Constitution is set up that The Mouth May 2023 #85
The last moniss May 2023 #92
agreed Novara May 2023 #110
Get rid of the filibuster. Demsrule86 May 2023 #113
We have a lot of obstruction to overcome moniss May 2023 #115
We need more Senators so the 50 state strategy...is a good idea. Demsrule86 May 2023 #116
I've always thought moniss May 2023 #117
I have no idea why after the election of President Obama, Howard Dean was dumped. We had Demsrule86 May 2023 #118
What I have encountered repeatedly moniss May 2023 #119
When was any of that on the table? FBaggins May 2023 #79
It was on the table moniss May 2023 #89
The car analogy is way off TiberiusB May 2023 #103
Right you are and moniss May 2023 #104
Agreed Novara May 2023 #111
Dark Brandon.... bill May 2023 #60
Seems like McCarthy "blinked". paleotn May 2023 #75
that thought came to me late last nite. AllaN01Bear May 2023 #76
They both did. That's how these deals work. FBaggins May 2023 #80
A freeze is actually a reduction Novara May 2023 #100
A freeze is different from an outright cut or elimination BumRushDaShow May 2023 #101
FY23 spending is already locked in Deminpenn May 2023 #109
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