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sofa king

(10,857 posts)
18. Oh, he ain't kidding.
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 04:17 AM
Nov 2012

That expiration is wrapped tighter than John Lithgow in his last appearance on Dexter.

First of all, a coherent bill extending the cuts has to pass in the House, which could happen, but they're so full of shit that I doubt they can even do that right.

Then, it has to pass in the Senate, which will never happen. So the President probably won't get a bill to veto.

But he couldn't have known that when he made his agreement two years ago, so he snookered the Republicans into a very carefully chosen time frame for expiration. It expires before his first term as President ends.

So if the Senate went Republican, the President would still be there to veto an extension.

If the President lost his bid for re-election, and the Senate went Republican, he would still be there to veto an extension.

And in case he broke both his hands playing basketball and couldn't sign a veto, he set the cuts to expire on a Friday in January just as Congress goes into a recess, so that he can pocket veto it without a signature.

That's not to say that the President wished the tax cuts for the middle class to expire. Democrats in the Senate passed such a measure with scarcely a Republican vote, but the Republican House blocked it. They don't give a shit about the middle class, except as a hostage.

But the President really, really wants the tax cuts for the wealthy to expire, so I don't expect him to bother to negotiate much. We may send a quick extension for the middle class up the flagpole just after the new Congress convenes, so that we can tack all of the Republicans with the onus of raising our taxes in the next elections, and if they're smart they'll take the offer.

But they're not smart, so I don't think we will have to worry about them doing the right thing.

It would never get to his desk in the 1st place maxsolomon Nov 2012 #1
Good! CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2012 #2
Falsehood Alert! The wealthy get 100% of ANY proposed tax cuts! TahitiNut Nov 2012 #3
I would sooner see the whole shitaree go off the so-called 'financial cliff' Cirque du So-What Nov 2012 #4
Even if the Bush tax cuts expire, they'll still pay a lower rate Selatius Nov 2012 #17
Yeah John2 Nov 2012 #5
If It Were Me... chuckstevens Nov 2012 #6
I John2 Nov 2012 #8
Well said... sendero Nov 2012 #21
All I can say is SoapBox Nov 2012 #7
Let the cuts expire still_one Nov 2012 #9
I'd rather risk the "fiscal cliff" that allow stupidi-TEA to continue holding our budget hostage. ItsTheMediaStupid Nov 2012 #10
Fiscal cliff doesn't come down until March 2013. Let them stew for 4 months. joshcryer Nov 2012 #12
I thought it was January 1st. OnlinePoker Nov 2012 #13
That's the MSM hyped date and the date it goes into "effect." joshcryer Nov 2012 #14
This is spending, but the tax cuts expire on 31 December, do they not? OnlinePoker Nov 2012 #15
Right, but the CBO says it will have little effect on the economy. joshcryer Nov 2012 #16
This would be the correct move. All the power is in Obama's hands. joshcryer Nov 2012 #11
Oh, he ain't kidding. sofa king Nov 2012 #18
sofa king! I remember you! You predicted this outcome. joshcryer Nov 2012 #19
Ha ha! Clearly, I was optimistic. sofa king Nov 2012 #23
Do it, Mr. Pres, we've got your back ---and not on middle class backs! wordpix Nov 2012 #20
STAND UP TO REPUBLICAN OBSTRUCTIONISM pal2u Nov 2012 #22
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