Facebook Turned Over Chat Messages Between Mother and Daughter Now Charged Over Abortion

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16. There is alot going on with this case

Last edited Thu Aug 11, 2022, 10:27 AM - Edit history (2)

If true:
Mother obtained two pills for her daughter who was either 23 weeks and 2 days pregnant or 28 weeks pregnant. ( Miscarriage was April 22..Affidavit says 23 weeks/2 days with a due date of July 3 which would make her about 28 weeks pregnant. The dates are contradictory)

In the US, the pills can only be prescribed during the first 12 weeks of pregnancy.
This would then violate laws about taking "medication as prescribed". Plan C is strictly regulated in all 50 states.

Celeste could have sought treatment via telemedicine prior to 12 weeks and obtained the pills legally.

Additionally, her mother could have also purchased the pills underground and gave them to her prior to 12 weeks.
(Although this would not be "legal", it would have been the safer thing to do)
Studies have shown that women further along than 12 weeks need more pills.
Celeste is lucky that she miscarried safely instead of having complications
We don't know why she waited until she was 24 weeks, however 24 weeks is also considered viability
The only state that allows abortion after 24 weeks is New York and these are only for cases of health, life endangerment or lethal fetal anomalies.
It appears that Celeste had prenatal care on March 8th, so did she change her mind about her pregnancy?

A few days after she miscarried, Celeste's "friend" went to the police and said that they buried a fetus/baby
With the assistance of Celeste and her mother, police exhumed the fetus
Autopsy shows the birth was stillborn
Celeste, her mom and a young man were charged with an illegal burying law.

Celeste was then questioned by a cop about the illegal burying.
She did not have an attorney or parent with her while being questioned.
The cop asked her what date she miscarried and Celeste opened up her phone and went through her messenger app in front of the cop.
Police then obtained a warrant for her fb messenger

https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/22129444/view-img-17.pdf
https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/22129445/view-img-19.pdf

Is there over reach in this prosecution here? You bet!!!
Why is the affidavit contradictory with regards to her pregnancy due date and number of weeks pregnant? Is she 5 months or is she 7 month pregnant?
Can they prove alot of this? I'm not sure.
If Celeste had obtained an abortion by a provider at 24 weeks, the provider would have committed a crime.
However, we don't know if there is actually a record of pills being purchased
Did Celeste confess to taking the pills or is this what the friend is saying?
Did the pills cause Celeste to miscarry?

The only hard evidence they have is that Celeste, her mom and a young man buried a fetus.
We don't know if the fetus was 23 weeks/2 days or 28 weeks?

If 28 weeks, I'm pretty sure this was a total stillbirth. The pills could have caused premature labor, but baby would have breathed on it's own. Autopsy shows that no air was in the lungs. The pills would not cause this.

Is this FB fault? No, Celeste showed them the messages and the police obtained a warrant. They could have obtained a warrant for SMS texts if Celeste and her mom had been texting SMS