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ancianita

(36,511 posts)
89. HE might have to recognize, but WE don't have to accept any such thing.
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 10:28 AM
Feb 2022

That people fear the armed threateners, both sides' fear can enbolden the armed and civil war can become a self-fulfilling prophecy.


more info from wikipedia

Polling data has demonstrated that most Americans on both sides of the political divide are worried about the political future of the country and consider democratic norms, such as fair and free elections, at risk.[44][45] Polling has also shown that a slim majority consider the U.S. to be in a cold civil war.[46][47] Meanwhile, Georgetown University’s Institute of Politics and Public Service asked voters to rank political division in America on a 0-100 scale, with 100 representing “on the edge of a civil war.” The mean response was 70.36.[48] Other research indicates that between a third and a half of the country is anticipating a civil war in their lifetime, particularly among young, rural Americans who identify as Republican or conservative.[49][50][51][52][53]...

Discussion of Civil War at Trump Rallies
There has been a handful of recorded instances where Trump supporters either predict or threaten for a second civil war during several of Trump's rallies, particularly after Trump lost the 2020 election.[132][133] "Civil War" trended again on Twitter in 2021 after a video of a Trump supporter predicting civil war at an Iowa rally went viral.[134][135] MSNBC reporter Gary Grumbach added that the supporter's call for civil war was echoed at several Trump rallies as a general consensus.[136]

Conroe, Texas Rally
A Trump rally in Conroe, Texas on Jan. 29, 2022, drew significant attention when Donald Trump openly criticized the United States House Select Committee on the January 6 Attack, which was considering a criminal referral in relation to Trump's connection to the attack, and several investigators who were looking into his conduct during the 2020 election.[137] Trump claimed Fulton County district attorney, Fani Willis, New York Attorney General Letitia James, prosecutor Alvin Bragg, and Rep. Bennie Thompson (D - Miss.), chairman of the select committee, were racists.[138] Trump stated: "If these radical, vicious, racist prosecutors do anything wrong or illegal, I hope we are going have, in this country, the biggest protest we have ever had in Washington, D.C., in New York, in Atlanta, and elsewhere, because our country and our elections are corrupt."[139] Many commentators pointed out that Trump's rhetoric around race was particularly troubling, and interpreted it as an attempt to undermine the criminal investigations.[140][141] Willis, who stated she began to receive racist threats after the Conroe rally, requested security assistance from the FBI field office in Atlanta.[142][143] ....
There was a book called ectopedia about how the US splintered into several countries kimbutgar Feb 2022 #1
Ecotopia - I remember that book whopis01 Feb 2022 #44
It won't be states against states. Each state is too diverse. marie999 Feb 2022 #2
There would be parts of Virginia that would want to break away from Northern VA COL Mustard Feb 2022 #39
ok we can put parts of the berlin wall up there SouthernDem4ever Feb 2022 #46
Anything that makes the US vulnerable would make Putin happy. marie999 Feb 2022 #50
Agreed. RevBrotherThomas Feb 2022 #88
Because of climate change, we will probably end up there anyway. marie999 Feb 2022 #91
Colorado doesn't deserve to be lumped in with all those red states, IMO. CrispyQ Feb 2022 #3
Most municipalities are awesome, friendly places to visit or live ArizonaLib Feb 2022 #15
There aren't many exceptions to the rural/urban divide lambchopp59 Feb 2022 #90
No doubt. We'll be emigrating to the United States if that is the case... PatrickforB Feb 2022 #16
That was my immediate feeling! colorado_ufo Feb 2022 #27
Exactly.. Colorado has a Dem Gov Cha Feb 2022 #59
And don't give them the Air Force missiles in Montana and North Dakota. Delmette2.0 Feb 2022 #76
I just don't see it qazplm135 Feb 2022 #4
It could be city by city like the current truck protest with guns. Irish_Dem Feb 2022 #9
I don't think so qazplm135 Feb 2022 #31
The animosity is here Irish_Dem Feb 2022 #38
not remotely to that level qazplm135 Feb 2022 #41
Wow. Missn-Hitch Feb 2022 #65
no they aren't qazplm135 Feb 2022 #67
Ah! I see where you are coming from. Kinzinger should not have said "civil war". Missn-Hitch Feb 2022 #73
Otoh cannabis_flower Feb 2022 #83
☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️ PortTack Feb 2022 #22
One thing I understand COL Mustard Feb 2022 #42
not true qazplm135 Feb 2022 #43
I read somewhere that if we were to have another civil war, it wouldn't be anything Javaman Feb 2022 #92
More likely to be guerrilla type warfare as in Northern Ireland over the years...unfortunately...nt wcmagumba Feb 2022 #5
Or the former Yugoslavia. Efilroft Sul Feb 2022 #6
+100000 roamer65 Feb 2022 #54
the "map" is someone's whimsical creation. Kinzinger's statement is worth discussing however. Evolve Dammit Feb 2022 #7
Nah...CO and NM would go with WA, OR, CA & HI hlthe2b Feb 2022 #8
You bet. I don't want anything to do with the right wing-nuts. n/t PatrickforB Feb 2022 #18
If A Civil War Breaks Out - Militia Against Militia - Can The.... global1 Feb 2022 #10
Yes - JFK federalized the Alabama guard to enforce Brown v Board of Ed ArizonaLib Feb 2022 #17
But can the National Guard be trusted? marie999 Feb 2022 #51
I'm still searching for a left wing militia. My wife and I belong to one but Missn-Hitch Feb 2022 #74
Our Marine Corp kitchen staff will put them in bags and serve lunch on time The Jungle 1 Feb 2022 #11
Except How Many Service Members Deep State Witch Feb 2022 #29
Does not matter how many. The Jungle 1 Feb 2022 #78
Rural militias confronting city and suburban populace unprepared and not seeking conflict bucolic_frolic Feb 2022 #12
I think the rural militias could come into the cities and like Custer Dan Feb 2022 #14
They have zero reason to come to the cities DetroitLegalBeagle Feb 2022 #28
I was responding to post #12. Dan Feb 2022 #61
Those are all criminal acts. SWAT teams would intervene. Justice matters. Feb 2022 #80
It would be interesting The Jungle 1 Feb 2022 #79
People have been warning civil war since I can remember. And it's ALWAYS when the Dems win. C Moon Feb 2022 #13
Where are the Traildogbob Feb 2022 #19
I agree with you I_UndergroundPanther Feb 2022 #40
that green I've seen labeled before kairos12 Feb 2022 #20
'armed groups against armed groups, targeted assassination and violence.' elleng Feb 2022 #21
Who benefits? Arms dealers, fossil fuel interest distracting our attention mahina Feb 2022 #23
I don't think this kind of talk BootinUp Feb 2022 #24
Interesting discussions. Doesn't matter much if the USofA is rendered defenseless erronis Feb 2022 #25
The possible conflict I see will happen later this year. Lonestarblue Feb 2022 #26
Meanwhile, Vladimir Putin's lips curl into a smile Mr. Ected Feb 2022 #30
... NurseJackie Feb 2022 #36
Gotta love the maps that show the split right along the already existing state borders DetroitLegalBeagle Feb 2022 #32
This is so kooky. NurseJackie Feb 2022 #33
I'd say that's exaggerated - though a wave of RW terrorism is certainly possible peppertree Feb 2022 #34
More violence yes. Civil War...no Roc2020 Feb 2022 #35
+1 peppertree Feb 2022 #37
We are already in a Civil War, and it will get worse unless the DOJ holds those responsible for JohnSJ Feb 2022 #45
I completely agree! mysteryowl Feb 2022 #47
yes JohnSJ Feb 2022 #48
The groupings are not correct, IMO. mysteryowl Feb 2022 #49
Talk is cheap mofo. Maybe he means republicans against the kkk, ws, trumpkins... Please proceed. 58Sunliner Feb 2022 #52
The map is garbage Metaphorical Feb 2022 #53
The new borders would generally not be state boundaries. roamer65 Feb 2022 #55
Whoever drew that stupid map doesn't know squat, especially about the west Warpy Feb 2022 #56
There will never be another civil war within the US Fiendish Thingy Feb 2022 #57
Of Course.. Prepare For the Cha Feb 2022 #58
Putin's Favorite Wank Fantasy (Nt) FreepFryer Feb 2022 #60
LOL Skittles Feb 2022 #62
It wouldn't be a long one vercetti2021 Feb 2022 #63
I don't see regional breakups. "Civil war" is going to be ramped up right-wing terrorism. Gore1FL Feb 2022 #64
It appears I have made a mistake in calling Kinzinger a traitor. PatrickforB Feb 2022 #66
What did he say that is not radicalleft Feb 2022 #69
Seems like he and Cheney are the only two in the house that aren't. Gore1FL Feb 2022 #70
A more likely map jg10003 Feb 2022 #68
Kentucky Corgigal Feb 2022 #71
hyperbolic... pbmus Feb 2022 #72
It's beyond hyperbole ... it's nutty. NurseJackie Feb 2022 #86
It's like the history of the Protestant vs. Catholic troubles in Northern Ireland. Ziggysmom Feb 2022 #75
The way I see it, imo...... The Grand Illuminist Feb 2022 #82
I think many Repughs would welcome such a thing. ificandream Feb 2022 #77
If or when there is one...... The Grand Illuminist Feb 2022 #81
that's the kind of crap Russia would push rockfordfile Feb 2022 #84
The Civil War will be in the Republican party. Emile Feb 2022 #85
Send snacks! Blues Heron Feb 2022 #87
HE might have to recognize, but WE don't have to accept any such thing. ancianita Feb 2022 #89
That's crazy. ck4829 Feb 2022 #93
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