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In reply to the discussion: Kinzinger: "We have to recognize" possibility of a civil war [View all]ancianita
(36,511 posts)89. HE might have to recognize, but WE don't have to accept any such thing.
That people fear the armed threateners, both sides' fear can enbolden the armed and civil war can become a self-fulfilling prophecy.
more info from wikipedia
Polling data has demonstrated that most Americans on both sides of the political divide are worried about the political future of the country and consider democratic norms, such as fair and free elections, at risk.[44][45] Polling has also shown that a slim majority consider the U.S. to be in a cold civil war.[46][47] Meanwhile, Georgetown Universitys Institute of Politics and Public Service asked voters to rank political division in America on a 0-100 scale, with 100 representing on the edge of a civil war. The mean response was 70.36.[48] Other research indicates that between a third and a half of the country is anticipating a civil war in their lifetime, particularly among young, rural Americans who identify as Republican or conservative.[49][50][51][52][53]...
Discussion of Civil War at Trump Rallies
There has been a handful of recorded instances where Trump supporters either predict or threaten for a second civil war during several of Trump's rallies, particularly after Trump lost the 2020 election.[132][133] "Civil War" trended again on Twitter in 2021 after a video of a Trump supporter predicting civil war at an Iowa rally went viral.[134][135] MSNBC reporter Gary Grumbach added that the supporter's call for civil war was echoed at several Trump rallies as a general consensus.[136]
Conroe, Texas Rally
A Trump rally in Conroe, Texas on Jan. 29, 2022, drew significant attention when Donald Trump openly criticized the United States House Select Committee on the January 6 Attack, which was considering a criminal referral in relation to Trump's connection to the attack, and several investigators who were looking into his conduct during the 2020 election.[137] Trump claimed Fulton County district attorney, Fani Willis, New York Attorney General Letitia James, prosecutor Alvin Bragg, and Rep. Bennie Thompson (D - Miss.), chairman of the select committee, were racists.[138] Trump stated: "If these radical, vicious, racist prosecutors do anything wrong or illegal, I hope we are going have, in this country, the biggest protest we have ever had in Washington, D.C., in New York, in Atlanta, and elsewhere, because our country and our elections are corrupt."[139] Many commentators pointed out that Trump's rhetoric around race was particularly troubling, and interpreted it as an attempt to undermine the criminal investigations.[140][141] Willis, who stated she began to receive racist threats after the Conroe rally, requested security assistance from the FBI field office in Atlanta.[142][143] ....
Discussion of Civil War at Trump Rallies
There has been a handful of recorded instances where Trump supporters either predict or threaten for a second civil war during several of Trump's rallies, particularly after Trump lost the 2020 election.[132][133] "Civil War" trended again on Twitter in 2021 after a video of a Trump supporter predicting civil war at an Iowa rally went viral.[134][135] MSNBC reporter Gary Grumbach added that the supporter's call for civil war was echoed at several Trump rallies as a general consensus.[136]
Conroe, Texas Rally
A Trump rally in Conroe, Texas on Jan. 29, 2022, drew significant attention when Donald Trump openly criticized the United States House Select Committee on the January 6 Attack, which was considering a criminal referral in relation to Trump's connection to the attack, and several investigators who were looking into his conduct during the 2020 election.[137] Trump claimed Fulton County district attorney, Fani Willis, New York Attorney General Letitia James, prosecutor Alvin Bragg, and Rep. Bennie Thompson (D - Miss.), chairman of the select committee, were racists.[138] Trump stated: "If these radical, vicious, racist prosecutors do anything wrong or illegal, I hope we are going have, in this country, the biggest protest we have ever had in Washington, D.C., in New York, in Atlanta, and elsewhere, because our country and our elections are corrupt."[139] Many commentators pointed out that Trump's rhetoric around race was particularly troubling, and interpreted it as an attempt to undermine the criminal investigations.[140][141] Willis, who stated she began to receive racist threats after the Conroe rally, requested security assistance from the FBI field office in Atlanta.[142][143] ....
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There was a book called ectopedia about how the US splintered into several countries
kimbutgar
Feb 2022
#1
There would be parts of Virginia that would want to break away from Northern VA
COL Mustard
Feb 2022
#39
Ah! I see where you are coming from. Kinzinger should not have said "civil war".
Missn-Hitch
Feb 2022
#73
I read somewhere that if we were to have another civil war, it wouldn't be anything
Javaman
Feb 2022
#92
More likely to be guerrilla type warfare as in Northern Ireland over the years...unfortunately...nt
wcmagumba
Feb 2022
#5
the "map" is someone's whimsical creation. Kinzinger's statement is worth discussing however.
Evolve Dammit
Feb 2022
#7
I'm still searching for a left wing militia. My wife and I belong to one but
Missn-Hitch
Feb 2022
#74
Our Marine Corp kitchen staff will put them in bags and serve lunch on time
The Jungle 1
Feb 2022
#11
Rural militias confronting city and suburban populace unprepared and not seeking conflict
bucolic_frolic
Feb 2022
#12
People have been warning civil war since I can remember. And it's ALWAYS when the Dems win.
C Moon
Feb 2022
#13
Interesting discussions. Doesn't matter much if the USofA is rendered defenseless
erronis
Feb 2022
#25
Gotta love the maps that show the split right along the already existing state borders
DetroitLegalBeagle
Feb 2022
#32
I'd say that's exaggerated - though a wave of RW terrorism is certainly possible
peppertree
Feb 2022
#34
We are already in a Civil War, and it will get worse unless the DOJ holds those responsible for
JohnSJ
Feb 2022
#45
Talk is cheap mofo. Maybe he means republicans against the kkk, ws, trumpkins... Please proceed.
58Sunliner
Feb 2022
#52
I don't see regional breakups. "Civil war" is going to be ramped up right-wing terrorism.
Gore1FL
Feb 2022
#64
It's like the history of the Protestant vs. Catholic troubles in Northern Ireland.
Ziggysmom
Feb 2022
#75