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In reply to the discussion: New York City becomes the largest municipality in the U.S. to allow noncitizens to vote [View all]BumRushDaShow
(130,419 posts)25. The NYT finally woke up with their article
New York City Gives 800,000 Noncitizens Right to Vote in Local Elections
By Jeffery C. Mays and Annie Correal
Dec. 9, 2021, 6:45 p.m. ET
New York City became the largest city in the country to allow noncitizens to vote in local elections after the City Council on Thursday overwhelmingly approved legislation granting the right to more than 800,000 legal residents. The move places New York City at the forefront of the debate over voting rights, serving as a stark contrast to some states that have moved to add voting restrictions, including explicitly barring noncitizens from voting. The legislation was approved over the objections of Mayor Bill de Blasio, who questioned whether the City Council has the power to grant voting rights to noncitizens. Legal experts expect that the bill could face a legal challenge.
Noncitizens would be able to begin to register to vote a year from now. They could begin voting in local elections as of Jan. 9, 2023, according to the City Council. The legislation affects those with green cards or the right to work in the United States; it does not entitle them to vote in state or federal elections. Councilman Ydanis Rodriguez, the bills primary sponsor, said the law will give more people who live in New York City and pay taxes there a say in how the city is run. People who are looking to get elected to office will now have to spend the same amount of time in the communities affected by this legislation as they do in upper-class neighborhoods, Mr. Rodriguez said in an interview.
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Mr. de Blasio has said he would not veto the bill. The bill automatically becomes law if it is not signed in 30 days. The mayor contended that noncitizen voting is a right that the state would have to grant, a position that many experts disagree with.Towns in Vermont and Maryland already allow noncitizens to vote in municipal elections. Noncitizens in San Francisco can vote in school board elections and several municipalities in Illinois, Maine and Massachusetts are also considering allowing noncitizen voting.
In New York, the mayor-elect, Eric Adams, has said he supports the rights of green card holders to vote in local elections and has urged passage of the legislation. But he, too, has questioned whether the City Council has the ability to grant voting rights to noncitizens. A spokesman for Mr. Adams said he would review the legislation when he takes office. Experts say that the New York State Constitution grants voting rights to citizens but does not explicitly prevent noncitizen voting. Noncitizens were allowed to vote in New York City school board elections until the boards were abolished in the early 2000s.
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More: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/09/nyregion/noncitizens-voting-rights-nyc.html
By Jeffery C. Mays and Annie Correal
Dec. 9, 2021, 6:45 p.m. ET
New York City became the largest city in the country to allow noncitizens to vote in local elections after the City Council on Thursday overwhelmingly approved legislation granting the right to more than 800,000 legal residents. The move places New York City at the forefront of the debate over voting rights, serving as a stark contrast to some states that have moved to add voting restrictions, including explicitly barring noncitizens from voting. The legislation was approved over the objections of Mayor Bill de Blasio, who questioned whether the City Council has the power to grant voting rights to noncitizens. Legal experts expect that the bill could face a legal challenge.
Noncitizens would be able to begin to register to vote a year from now. They could begin voting in local elections as of Jan. 9, 2023, according to the City Council. The legislation affects those with green cards or the right to work in the United States; it does not entitle them to vote in state or federal elections. Councilman Ydanis Rodriguez, the bills primary sponsor, said the law will give more people who live in New York City and pay taxes there a say in how the city is run. People who are looking to get elected to office will now have to spend the same amount of time in the communities affected by this legislation as they do in upper-class neighborhoods, Mr. Rodriguez said in an interview.
(snip)
Mr. de Blasio has said he would not veto the bill. The bill automatically becomes law if it is not signed in 30 days. The mayor contended that noncitizen voting is a right that the state would have to grant, a position that many experts disagree with.Towns in Vermont and Maryland already allow noncitizens to vote in municipal elections. Noncitizens in San Francisco can vote in school board elections and several municipalities in Illinois, Maine and Massachusetts are also considering allowing noncitizen voting.
In New York, the mayor-elect, Eric Adams, has said he supports the rights of green card holders to vote in local elections and has urged passage of the legislation. But he, too, has questioned whether the City Council has the ability to grant voting rights to noncitizens. A spokesman for Mr. Adams said he would review the legislation when he takes office. Experts say that the New York State Constitution grants voting rights to citizens but does not explicitly prevent noncitizen voting. Noncitizens were allowed to vote in New York City school board elections until the boards were abolished in the early 2000s.
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More: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/09/nyregion/noncitizens-voting-rights-nyc.html
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BumRushDaShow
Dec 2021
OP
Then perhaps non citizens should not serve in the army, be police officers, firefighters
tulipsandroses
Dec 2021
#9
I'm not trying to berate you. I'm trying to see the rationale for these stances
tulipsandroses
Dec 2021
#33
It's only for NYC offices. To vote in State or Federal elections, they still can't.
AZLD4Candidate
Dec 2021
#21
"But if they are working and paying taxes, why not?" Because Putin or anyone else can send people
Escurumbele
Dec 2021
#37
Serving in the military, getting a job, and starting a business are voluntary
AllTooEasy
Dec 2021
#39
This is not good, and plays right into the hands of the "Big lie" Trump supporters
Ohioboy
Dec 2021
#5
Working to help republicans to win the midterms. Whose brilliant idea was this with the midterms
JohnSJ
Dec 2021
#8
The article says republicans are threatening legal challenges. I hope there are Democrats to join
JohnSJ
Dec 2021
#12
It doesn't matter, this is NY City, and as you can tell from just reading the posts in your thread,
JohnSJ
Dec 2021
#16
I respectfully disagree with your assessment on this. I don't believe comparing this to marijuana
JohnSJ
Dec 2021
#24
I got no problem with non-citizen residents voting in municipal elections...but
pecosbob
Dec 2021
#34
New York City was one of (if not *the*) first place to allow non-property holders to vote
Bucky
Jan 2022
#49
One change that occurred under Federalist Party is the restriction of voting rights
Bucky
Jan 2022
#52
Are the requirements for obtaining citizenship for permanent residents and green card holders...
LudwigPastorius
Jan 2022
#57