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BumRushDaShow

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4. I think it is just the start of "negotiations"
Fri Aug 13, 2021, 07:22 AM
Aug 2021

The moderates need a decent set of "talking points" to have for their swing district constituents.

I posted about that a couple days ago - https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=2783362

The Senate's Infrastructure bill passing in the House is not the problem - that is a done deal and may even be signed by or on Labor Day as a nice touch.

It's the reconciliation bill that will be a problem in the House due to the Problem-Solvers Caucus vs the Congressional Progressive Caucus.

The Manchin/Sinema thing in the Senate is going to be its own side-show, and really, it won't just be them. There are a number of (D) "moderates" in the Senate who will probably start balking, like Chris Coons & compatriot Tom Carper, or Jean Shaheen & compatriot Maggie Hassan.

It will be a slog and we will hear endless nonsense from the media about "the bill", "the bill", "the bill" as if each iteration were the "final one", just lie they did with the ACA.

And don't forget, because the fiscal year DOES end September 30, and although the House sent over a big pile of appropriations bills to fund the government for FY2022 right before they went on break, the Senate has done nothing with those yet.

So someone needs to pass a C.R. to get through some portion of the new FY or there will be a government shutdown come September 30.
This means the death of the 3.5 trillion dollar bill. gab13by13 Aug 2021 #1
I think it is just the start of "negotiations" BumRushDaShow Aug 2021 #4
These Democrats in swing districts are wrong gab13by13 Aug 2021 #5
It doesn't matter if we think they are "wrong" or not BumRushDaShow Aug 2021 #8
It might get negotiated down a little but Elessar Zappa Aug 2021 #13
No it doesn't. NurseJackie Aug 2021 #23
Why? Democrats, why? Walleye Aug 2021 #2
Let's call this what it is, gab13by13 Aug 2021 #3
They need a "joint" House/Senate Conference Committee BumRushDaShow Aug 2021 #6
Speaker Pelosi had a plan gab13by13 Aug 2021 #7
Do you recall this from 10 years ago? BumRushDaShow Aug 2021 #11
I remember Joe Lieberman gab13by13 Aug 2021 #18
It wasn't just Lieberman BumRushDaShow Aug 2021 #21
There are a few vacancies right now FBaggins Aug 2021 #12
Sortof correct but there is a bit more wiggle room BumRushDaShow Aug 2021 #17
More than 9 question everything Aug 2021 #44
I think... Mike Nelson Aug 2021 #9
It mattered when they passed to Speaker Pelosi. gab13by13 Aug 2021 #10
"They" didn't pass BumRushDaShow Aug 2021 #16
I appreciate your clear explanations, sincerely, gab13by13 Aug 2021 #19
The problem with this is that the lawmakers aren't required to vote as the Speaker tells them to ripcord Aug 2021 #22
I want to "officially" welcome you to the "sausage-making" process of legislation BumRushDaShow Aug 2021 #24
If the bipartisan bill passes first, the reconciliation bill is dead, or at least neutered Fiendish Thingy Aug 2021 #29
Henry Cuellar is notorious for stuff like this. Sucha NastyWoman Aug 2021 #34
Joshie, again . . . . . no_hypocrisy Aug 2021 #14
Moderates? BeckyDem Aug 2021 #15
Fringe centrists. aocommunalpunch Aug 2021 #20
The moderates gave us the house and they fear that by the fall the other bill may be in trouble Demsrule86 Aug 2021 #37
Hear! Hear! question everything Aug 2021 #45
Vote on the damn bill already passed in the Senate. oldsoftie Aug 2021 #25
I think what the strategy is BumRushDaShow Aug 2021 #26
But the moderates are threatening a procedural move to block moving ahead w/reconciliation Fiendish Thingy Aug 2021 #30
But this is why I posted what I did upthread - "I think it is just the start of 'negotiations'" BumRushDaShow Aug 2021 #32
Our system is so broken OneCrazyDiamond Aug 2021 #27
It's highlighting the party's "big tent" BumRushDaShow Aug 2021 #28
"social policy package" greenjar_01 Aug 2021 #31
That's what it is though BumRushDaShow Aug 2021 #33
Could these 9 dems "throwing the game" be the reincarnated 1919 Chicago White Sox players? yaesu Aug 2021 #35
No they fear that if we wait until fall...both bills may br derailed. And they may be right. Demsrule86 Aug 2021 #36
But aren't they going against the party leadership and President Biden's interests? nt yaesu Aug 2021 #38
Not really. Calista241 Aug 2021 #39
I hope they are doing this in good faith & if so, plays out as a win win for us yaesu Aug 2021 #40
The fact that they have to wait 60 days before even having a vote Calista241 Aug 2021 #41
The plan has always been to pass both bills together Deminpenn Aug 2021 #42
What the House was returning for was to look at what the Senate sent them (Infrastructure bill) BumRushDaShow Aug 2021 #43
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