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67. I know two people back home who got infected post-vaccination

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Fri Jul 30, 2021, 04:39 PM

Jul 2021

This thing ain't done with us yet!

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CDC study shows three-fourths of people infected in Massachusetts covid-19 outbreak were vaccinated [View all] BumRushDaShow Jul 2021 OP

Public Health Officials need to be clear on the message that vaccines stop mucifer Jul 2021 #1

Maybe, but I think there is a leap in your reasoning TimeToGo Jul 2021 #38

reread my post I was clear. I said almost always stops severe illness or death with delta mucifer Jul 2021 #39

Two weeks ago it was reported 79 fully vaccinated died in Mass womanofthehills Jul 2021 #75

Over 4 million fully vaccinated cannabis_flower Jul 2021 #84

Those percentages would be meaningful if all the vaccinated were infected with the Delta variant. NH Ethylene Jul 2021 #97

0.0019 percent Major Nikon Jul 2021 #85

In Illinois it's a few hundred people. They mostly have pre existing conditions and 6 million mucifer Jul 2021 #87

I was going by this line: TimeToGo Jul 2021 #102

just like the flu vaccine agingdem Jul 2021 #82

Fauci clarified this today in an NPR interview. wnylib Jul 2021 #89

I don't think "only" is accurate as to earlier variants - Ms. Toad Jul 2021 #99

I'm pretty sure that, before delta, Fauci wnylib Jul 2021 #104

Again. I'm pretty sure transmission is possible in breakthrough cases Ms. Toad Jul 2021 #108

I agree that many people do speak wnylib Jul 2021 #118

You do recall his early statements on masks, don't you? Ms. Toad Jul 2021 #119

And that the vaccines were developed for the ORIGINAL strain oldsoftie Jul 2021 #69

Long haul also can, and often does, occur in fully vaxed folks SheltieLover Jul 2021 #2

Really? First I've heard of this. Can you provide a link? Dream Girl Jul 2021 #5

Talk to OhioChick SheltieLover Jul 2021 #14

Thanks. In order to have "long haul" I'm assuming one would have to be symptomatic and pretty Dream Girl Jul 2021 #26

The way I understand it, SheltieLover Jul 2021 #28

Long haul COVID does occur in mild, even asymptomatic, cases. Ms. Toad Jul 2021 #33

You are so right! Tadpole Raisin Jul 2021 #58

One of my friends in Provincetown, and a friend of his Ms. Toad Jul 2021 #66

Totally agree that people on DU are buying into wnylib Jul 2021 #100

They don't Rebl2 Jul 2021 #95

Thanks. You beat me to it, and from the same sources. wnylib Jul 2021 #98

They seem to conflate people who were not hospitalized with "asymptotic" people, then they drag in Dream Girl Jul 2021 #106

Check out the link at post #33 for the wnylib Jul 2021 #122

I appreciate the info hueymahl Jul 2021 #27

Pls talk to OhioChick SheltieLover Jul 2021 #29

So, no links? hueymahl Jul 2021 #31

OhioChick was very helpful with me when BigmanPigman Jul 2021 #88

Yes SheltieLover Jul 2021 #111

Oh no, I had no idea. BigmanPigman Jul 2021 #121

Yes. SheltieLover Jul 2021 #126

People should listen to her experiences BigmanPigman Jul 2021 #129

Read some of the pushback I've gotten on this thread. SheltieLover Jul 2021 #130

I appreciate your message and your efforts here SayitAintSo Aug 2021 #149

It's actually pretty easy to find doing a google search. Ms. Toad Jul 2021 #34

Thank you!!! hueymahl Jul 2021 #35

This is a limited sub sample (nine cases) that can't be generalized without further research Fiendish Thingy Jul 2021 #43

Yes, in the Israel study, it seems like only 2 out of orginal 39 people developed true long COVID LymphocyteLover Jul 2021 #54

I didn't make the claim it was often. Ms. Toad Jul 2021 #70

I heard a story on NPR the other dasy regarding this oldsoftie Jul 2021 #71

Read mstoad's #33. She cites the wnylib Jul 2021 #115

Thx Wyn. SheltieLover Jul 2021 #127

I didn't see that post. I don't know what that wnylib Jul 2021 #135

OMG! What a coincidence! wnylib Jul 2021 #139

Yup SheltieLover Aug 2021 #150

It's true."Those who are vaccinated did everything right, but some are going to go on to long-COVID" PSPS Jul 2021 #36

I was just going to post that -- here is the original article in NEJM LymphocyteLover Jul 2021 #52

I have read this, too. I read so many studies wnylib Jul 2021 #90

Same here, Wyn. SheltieLover Aug 2021 #151

"often does"? LymphocyteLover Jul 2021 #8

Pls see post #14 SheltieLover Jul 2021 #17

Also #36 SheltieLover Jul 2021 #48

19% in one study. NH Ethylene Jul 2021 #113

Thx! SheltieLover Jul 2021 #128

"Often" is a false statement. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jul 2021 #13

It most certainly is not SheltieLover Jul 2021 #16

Without proof, your assertion is worthless. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jul 2021 #18

Your choice SheltieLover Jul 2021 #19

Lord have mercy......... oldsoftie Jul 2021 #72

Please read all of post #4 here: SheltieLover Jul 2021 #21

Absolutely nothing in that post supports your assertion Fiendish Thingy Jul 2021 #40

You might have to search his tweets SheltieLover Jul 2021 #41

So, you refuse to retract your unsupported false statement? Fiendish Thingy Jul 2021 #44

It is not a false statement SheltieLover Jul 2021 #46

The plural of anecdote is not data Fiendish Thingy Jul 2021 #53

You are most welcome to ignore my posts, my friend SheltieLover Jul 2021 #57

I am more concerned about others in the DU community who may accept your claims as facts. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jul 2021 #59

I'd rather they think its more often than never nt oldsoftie Jul 2021 #73

Does "rarely" work for you? "Occasionally"? maxsolomon Jul 2021 #93

You should indeed provide support for claims that can cause unnecessary panic FBaggins Jul 2021 #144

Stop playing games. Just put on a mask for Pete's sake. Jakes Progress Jul 2021 #79

Put on a mask? Wat does the have to do with anything. Someone posted that asymptotic Dream Girl Jul 2021 #103

Read the thread. Jakes Progress Jul 2021 #143

this is bs Kali Jul 2021 #23

No, it is not. SheltieLover Jul 2021 #24

YOU made the claim, the burden of proof is on YOU Fiendish Thingy Jul 2021 #45

Read #36 SheltieLover Jul 2021 #47

Read #34 and #54 Fiendish Thingy Jul 2021 #56

you need to link to whatever it is you are claiming Kali Jul 2021 #123

I am not spreading lies SheltieLover Jul 2021 #125

no, when I see someone make unsubstantiated claims Kali Jul 2021 #131

Again, feel free to ignore my posts SheltieLover Jul 2021 #132

nah, I try to encourage accuracy when I see it isn't there Kali Jul 2021 #137

Once again, feel free to ignore my posts. SheltieLover Jul 2021 #138

In medical parlance, "long haul" is being called "PASC" (Post-Acute Sequalae of SARS-COV-2) BumRushDaShow Jul 2021 #107

And many docs are telling patients "it's all in your head" SheltieLover Jul 2021 #116

From your cited study's origin BumRushDaShow Jul 2021 #120

No doubt! SheltieLover Jul 2021 #124

Trump supporters not vaccinating allowed it to get this bad. Eliot Rosewater Jul 2021 #3

Even Hannity telling people every nite to get the shot oldsoftie Jul 2021 #78

Theory. roamer65 Jul 2021 #4

If it was neutralized, how would it reproduce in the host at the same rate as in the unvaccinated? JudyM Jul 2021 #10

Could just be the active replicating... roamer65 Jul 2021 #32

Has to invade cells in order to actively replicate. JudyM Jul 2021 #61

Good question. roamer65 Jul 2021 #63

Ha! Okay. JudyM Jul 2021 #64

Really good post by intrepidity. roamer65 Jul 2021 #65

Skimmed it, good info to read more later. JudyM Jul 2021 #83

211 people Deminpenn Jul 2021 #6

"what subset these 211 people belong"? LymphocyteLover Jul 2021 #11

Of the total number of people cited in the study Deminpenn Jul 2021 #15

Sounds like they tested asymptomatic people too LymphocyteLover Jul 2021 #22

There is zero reasons to believe those vaccinated patients are an exception. LisaL Jul 2021 #25

PCR tests cannot detect viral loads Deminpenn Jul 2021 #96

"211 people" - is now up to 882 total so far, with 653 (74%) fully vaccinated BumRushDaShow Jul 2021 #49

No, the 211 people are the cohort on which the CDC based its guidance Deminpenn Jul 2021 #92

Yes, but those are the people who were most likely just the residents of Provincetown BumRushDaShow Jul 2021 #114

Having read your link to the actual CDC study, Deminpenn Jul 2021 #140

Since research is continually on-going BumRushDaShow Jul 2021 #142

More here about 1000 times more contagious than the variant we dealt with earlier. JudyM Jul 2021 #7

And more contagious than smallpox! SheltieLover Jul 2021 #20

Hard to tell how meaningful this is... Happy Hoosier Jul 2021 #9

there is a link to the WMMR article which gives a lot more details LymphocyteLover Jul 2021 #12

CDC is full of great people hueymahl Jul 2021 #30

Correct. By itself, the 3/4 figure is meaningless. You'd need to know... thesquanderer Jul 2021 #60

Did you actually look at the research link? BumRushDaShow Jul 2021 #68

"clear that the vaccines do work, as hoped, against severe illness and death" IronLionZion Jul 2021 #37

Duh progressoid Jul 2021 #42

Well good that I'm still taking precautions here. Delta is Tadpole Raisin Jul 2021 #50

Hmmm...males who were fully vaccinated..... LeftInTX Jul 2021 #51

Apparently it's time for Pride parades in MA. LisaL Jul 2021 #55

Provincetown has always been a welcoming place and hangout BumRushDaShow Jul 2021 #74

I'll stay masked and watch for announcement on boosters. Fact is that while science is doing a good Hoyt Jul 2021 #62

I know two people back home who got infected post-vaccination Phil the Kilibuster Jul 2021 #67

Howdy uppityperson Jul 2021 #133

Howdy right back atcha! Unless you mean CAPTAIN Howdy Phil the Kilibuster Aug 2021 #147

I'm very concerned about this, yikes nt LittleGirl Jul 2021 #76

It really seems that it was foolhardy if not downright irresponsible for the CDC to change their CentralMass Jul 2021 #77

That's it then. Cinnamonspice Jul 2021 #80

And what? What should I do with this information? Jon King Jul 2021 #81

I'm among those that used my concept of common sense and continued to wear a mask. CentralMass Jul 2021 #86

The CDC Director promised to publish info for state, County, and local Health Departments BumRushDaShow Jul 2021 #91

CDC FAQs on PCR tests Deminpenn Jul 2021 #94

We are going off the deep end here, none died and only 4 were hospitalized Jon King Jul 2021 #101

You make some good points, however, totodeinhere Jul 2021 #109

Agree Deminpenn Jul 2021 #112

When the CDC changed their guidelines on masks the other day I started wearing a mask again. totodeinhere Jul 2021 #105

This message was self-deleted by its author bucolic_frolic Jul 2021 #110

This is very sobering.................. secondwind Jul 2021 #117

Vaccines are not a forcefield. They never were... TomCADem Jul 2021 #136

Key thing to remember Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2021 #134

If the viral load is the same between vaccinated and not vaccinated, then there is no reason to LisaL Jul 2021 #141

CDC Says New Mask Guidelines Informed by Cape Cod Outbreak mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2021 #145

There was another outbreak in Wisconsin which showed similar findings BumRushDaShow Jul 2021 #146

What's the definition of "high" and "low"? Deminpenn Aug 2021 #148

FDA publishes a reference standard for the current EUA-approved tests BumRushDaShow Aug 2021 #154

Fine, but what's the "high" and "low" for this Deminpenn Aug 2021 #155

That's not how it correlates BumRushDaShow Aug 2021 #156

Disagree here Deminpenn Aug 2021 #157

I figured you were going to try to argue BumRushDaShow Aug 2021 #158

Not surprising, been seeing this at work madville Aug 2021 #152

Good God. orangecrush Aug 2021 #153