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Miguelito Loveless

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12. Outside of a small area in Arizona

Mon Apr 19, 2021, 09:18 AM

Apr 2021

there are NO "driverless" vehicles on the roads in the US. The Tesla system is NOT a driverless system, it is a driver assist system (like lane keeping, adaptive cruise control, emergency braking, collision warning). It can be circumvented and misused by a determined idiot. People get annoyed because the ystem is called "autopiilot", but if you read the FAA rules on the definition of autopilot systems you will see that are not "pilotless" systems and the pilots are NOT allowed to leave the flight deck while the system is engaged.

No system is "fool proof" as fools are so ingenious.

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Two dead in Tesla crash in Texas that was believed to be driverless [View all] Judi Lynn Apr 2021 OP

This is the biggest problem I see with the current driverless technology JI7 Apr 2021 #1

The problem is people are morons Miguelito Loveless Apr 2021 #4

This is the kind of moronic actions that were done when cruise control was first implemented. n/t aggiesal Apr 2021 #40

Saw a video with George Hotz recently, demo'ing AP3. joshcryer Apr 2021 #48

And people think this is going to take away Semi truck driver jobs oldsoftie Apr 2021 #2

The software is not at this level of sophistication yet. Miguelito Loveless Apr 2021 #5

Be thankful it didn't happen on a busier or urban roadway or during commute hours Auggie Apr 2021 #3

Driverless vehicles need their own lanes! LittleGirl Apr 2021 #6

Outside of a small area in Arizona Miguelito Loveless Apr 2021 #12

Yes and as we transisition to driverless LittleGirl Apr 2021 #14

I think we are at least a decade from that Miguelito Loveless Apr 2021 #21

I think so too. LittleGirl Apr 2021 #23

I don't think the tech is going to be as big Miguelito Loveless Apr 2021 #38

We really don't know yet LittleGirl Apr 2021 #42

To me, it is another case of the J&J vaccine Miguelito Loveless Apr 2021 #45

... Major Nikon Apr 2021 #16

My favorite comedy movie, Miguelito Loveless Apr 2021 #22

I remember seeing ET in 1982 as a kid, and on the sign next to it was Young Doctors in Love Polybius Apr 2021 #24

Hysterical Miguelito Loveless Apr 2021 #37

With concrete barriers on BOTH sides!! oneshooter Apr 2021 #31

Lol, yup! Nt LittleGirl Apr 2021 #35

This message was self-deleted by its author oneshooter Apr 2021 #33

Does this mean AI is not an awful lot better than HI? bucolic_frolic Apr 2021 #7

When you circumvent safety features and deliberately Miguelito Loveless Apr 2021 #9

Product liability for flawed products will be massive bucolic_frolic Apr 2021 #10

As I explain elsewhere, Miguelito Loveless Apr 2021 #13

I don't believe that Tesla has implemented that tech completely yet... mac2766 Apr 2021 #8

You can rig the steering wheel to "fool" the safety system Miguelito Loveless Apr 2021 #11

I don't believe it was a system fault then... mac2766 Apr 2021 #46

The most cogent theory I have seen Miguelito Loveless Apr 2021 #49

Damn trees just won't get out of the way. rickyhall Apr 2021 #15

Trust the Machines! Eat Recycled Food! MineralMan Apr 2021 #17

I believe a seat weight sensor, as well as a steering wheel hands sensor, is needed. NBachers Apr 2021 #18

People already are defeating the steering wheel sensor with weights pimpbot Apr 2021 #30

when you select driverless mode , dosent it say i agree to have both AllaN01Bear Apr 2021 #19

There are no level one fully autonomous cars. JohnnyRingo Apr 2021 #20

Tesla should not call it "autopilot" - it should be named "advanced cruise control" csziggy Apr 2021 #26

I agree. Calling it autopilot is pretty reckless on their part MichMan Apr 2021 #28

So...either a glitch or a hack. PatrickforB Apr 2021 #25

Hackers cannot make the driver leave the driver's seat while the car is in motion csziggy Apr 2021 #27

i think there is something amiss in the story,as this is what happens when you unbuckle the seatbelt Mr. Sparkle Apr 2021 #29

This car is using FSD which is only being tested by a small subset of selected drivers. Kablooie Apr 2021 #34

Thank you! Duppers Apr 2021 #39

Will it stop like that if you aren't in the seat, but the seat belt is left buckled? SunSeeker Apr 2021 #41

The seat has weight senors to make sure the driver is present. Mr. Sparkle Apr 2021 #47

I drive a Tesla and the car couldn't have been on autopilot. Kablooie Apr 2021 #32

Yes, that seems like the likely scenario. But a battery should not "burst" into flames. SunSeeker Apr 2021 #43

Darwin wins AGAIN! ToxMarz Apr 2021 #36

I'd love to own a Tesla, but there's no way... Buckeye_Democrat Apr 2021 #44