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In reply to the discussion: Julian Assange bids to sue Julia Gillard for defamation over WikiLeaks comments [View all]struggle4progress
(118,379 posts)158. The case will be tried in Sweden. It's inappropriate to try such matters in the media.
I have no opinion on what the outcome should be. If the case is indeed as flimsy as the Assangists claim, the whole matter should be resolved quickly to Assange's advantage
Assange, however, does not much act as if he believes the case is flimsy, since he fled Sweden while the authorities were negotiating with his lawyer to interrogate him, since he's spent about a year and a half fighting extradition in the UK courts, and since he finally jumped bail to avoid extradition
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Julian Assange bids to sue Julia Gillard for defamation over WikiLeaks comments [View all]
Swagman
Oct 2012
OP
Fine. How difficult will it be to prove the case while he is refusing to leave the embassy?
cstanleytech
Oct 2012
#9
Hey, the doubt you cast was on him doing it which I have shown he did do.
cstanleytech
Oct 2012
#106
Maybe because he wants to know for sure what his legal status is in Australia.
JDPriestly
Oct 2012
#173
But see I dont dislike him, I just dont believe that this is a vaste conspiracy against him.
cstanleytech
Oct 2012
#174
Unless they want to establish legal precedent that will intimidate the press. That is totally
JDPriestly
Oct 2012
#183
All the US has to do is to promise everyone that they consider Wikileak's activities to be as much
JDPriestly
Oct 2012
#212
I don't think anyone would have a problem with Wikileaks facilitating whistleblowing.
randome
Oct 2012
#213
Oh, you found evidence that he is to be deported to the US? Link please. nt
cstanleytech
Oct 2012
#11
Funny how all the "news" articles like this show up in "commentary" and "opinion" sections?
George II
Oct 2012
#16
Just because he fears he "may" be charged with a crime isnt evidence that he has been charged.
cstanleytech
Oct 2012
#26
Ah, so he should step outside and see whether he's going to face the death penalty in the US...
wtmusic
Oct 2012
#29
The streets of London would be mighty empty if everyone was as paranoid as him.
George II
Oct 2012
#32
If they were there waiting for him to leave, don't you think they'd be looking AT the building??
George II
Oct 2012
#47
You have a point there, but who knows how long they've been cooling their heels there.
freshwest
Oct 2012
#80
Are you suggesting that the guards are standing there like the guards at the factory
JDPriestly
Oct 2012
#109
It comes from the statement about what the guards are doing in front of the Ecuadorian Embassy in
JDPriestly
Oct 2012
#130
No, he should step out and do what he agreed to do in the first place when he was granted bail
cstanleytech
Oct 2012
#58
Without real reference to statute, legislative history, or court case, it can't be "legal opinion":
struggle4progress
Oct 2012
#64
If you pull it all together, yeah. But few of the writings on Assange, pro or con, are objective.
freshwest
Oct 2012
#86
Embarrassing to who? Me? Yeah, if I was in charge. Were they to Bush? Was slavery an embarrassment
freshwest
Oct 2012
#95
There is no anti-Assange crowd. There is likely an anti-Wikileaks, anti-Anonymous crowd.
freshwest
Oct 2012
#155
So it's your contention that these news sites just pulled all this out of their ass?
99th_Monkey
Oct 2012
#148
Your painstaking denial and selective myopia regarding Assange is duly noted. ~nt
99th_Monkey
Oct 2012
#150
Well. So much for debating points. Aspersions are easier to throw about, I suppose.
randome
Oct 2012
#151
Not to worry about standing out in a crowd! But you have yet to provide a single credible argument
sabrina 1
Oct 2012
#176
You evidently don't understand the nature of the charge or why it might be brought
struggle4progress
Oct 2012
#152
Well, talking to someone who is, in essence, a foreign spy, might be considered noteworthy.
randome
Oct 2012
#198
I'll guess you just didn't read the FOIA release carefully. The investigation in this case concerned
struggle4progress
Oct 2012
#206
It's still an investigation, and he said he would cooperate with the Swedish investigation...
George II
Oct 2012
#49
Yes, why should not all accusations that end up in indictment or the country's equivalent be taken t
treestar
Oct 2012
#50
There are no charges. Going into the third year and the Swedish Prosecutor still refuses to file a
sabrina 1
Oct 2012
#175
... This is an allegation of rape. The framework list is ticked for rape. The defence accepts
struggle4progress
Oct 2012
#124
she's sleeping so how does she know he raped her? Did she scream? Say no? Did he force her to
wordpix
Oct 2012
#156
The case will be tried in Sweden. It's inappropriate to try such matters in the media.
struggle4progress
Oct 2012
#158
yes, if he's innocent he should hang around, get extradicted & possibly found guilty on a
wordpix
Oct 2012
#193
"a false accusation of an offense or a malicious misrepresentation of someone's words or actions"
wtmusic
Oct 2012
#10
He probably missed seeing his name in the headlines so concocted this crazy accusation.
George II
Oct 2012
#15
The UK confiscated his passport at the start of the extradition fight
struggle4progress
Oct 2012
#163
The Australian PM is liable for the lies she told early on and which she was forced to retract after
sabrina 1
Oct 2012
#179
I love how Wikileaks haters are so in denial about how outside this insulated-from-world-news
sabrina 1
Oct 2012
#186
the PM said he had committed a crime which is not true. On that basis Mastercard declined
Swagman
Oct 2012
#127
Julia Gillard is from the left side of the Labor party (our notionally centre left party)
soaky
Oct 2012
#159
That was the opinion of the radio host. The link was there when I followed the OP link.
freshwest
Oct 2012
#160
You can safely ignore anything that emanates from any of Alan Jone's orifices! nt
soaky
Oct 2012
#168
You forgot the CIA. Okay, it might be covered under the "United States" but I bet he think they
msanthrope
Oct 2012
#34
He should learn to face his OWN existing legal issues before creating questionable new ones.
George II
Oct 2012
#12
... he used his balcony address to ... cast himself as a guardian of free speech ...
struggle4progress
Oct 2012
#67
"... Whoever .. knowingly engages in any act of physical violence against any person or property
struggle4progress
Oct 2012
#195
So you don't object to the provisions of 1752(a)(4)? Do you object to 1752(a)(1), which
struggle4progress
Oct 2012
#201
After reading the text, I have no idea what you're talking about, so mebbe you can clarify:
struggle4progress
Oct 2012
#205
Read the House Judiciary Report: "The United States Secret Service provides protective services
struggle4progress
Oct 2012
#217
... he accused the US of a ‘witch-hunt’ that threatened freedom of expression ...
struggle4progress
Oct 2012
#68
He can't credibly claim to have been whistle-blowing -- and so he won't claim that
struggle4progress
Oct 2012
#78
Then why didn't he follow the whistleblowing statutes that would have protected him? The MWPA would
msanthrope
Oct 2012
#88
Intercepted by whom? Did he really think Dennis Kucinich or Bernie Sanders would not have done the
msanthrope
Oct 2012
#94
So he would just ring Kucinich's office and say, "Yo, I need to talk to Dennis..."
wtmusic
Oct 2012
#96
Mr Manning was in the United States in January 2010. He brought with him material that he chose to
msanthrope
Oct 2012
#139
Do the arithmetic: if he released 750K documents, he couldn't have any clear idea what was in there,
struggle4progress
Oct 2012
#101
The 2006 amendments to Australian defamation law generally limit actions to within one year
struggle4progress
Oct 2012
#87
Maybe Julian is really hiding in the embassy to escape the various lawyers he's stiffed:
struggle4progress
Oct 2012
#91
Various? Are there others, or did you just feel the need to pad your non-story?
wtmusic
Oct 2012
#93
He seems to stiff a lot of folk: those who put up his bail, those who pay him advances for books ...
struggle4progress
Oct 2012
#97
He's a rip-off artist: rips off his lawyers, rips off his publishers, rips off his friends
struggle4progress
Oct 2012
#103
I've enjoyed reading the rebuttals you have dealt out to these folks!
go west young man
Oct 2012
#113
Lol, but his 'friend' Domscheidt Berg, remember him, is a paragon of lies, I mean virtue. I'm
sabrina 1
Oct 2012
#180
Yes, you forgot to mention that this is the lawyer who 'forgot' to tell his client about the emails
sabrina 1
Oct 2012
#177
Um, I don't think there's any doubt he harmed his client. As was proven in court.
sabrina 1
Oct 2012
#204
... Assange ... plans to run for the Australian Senate in elections due next year ...
struggle4progress
Oct 2012
#122
Your method of reckoning is novel. Assange fled Sweden in late September 2010, while
struggle4progress
Oct 2012
#135
Assange did not flee Sweden and I have told you this multiple times already yet you continue to post
sabrina 1
Oct 2012
#178
... On 21st September 2010, the prosecutor contacted the Appellant’s counsel .. to ask
struggle4progress
Oct 2012
#188
The Assange defense lied about that in UK court, and the UK court caught them lying:
struggle4progress
Oct 2012
#189
That has zero to do with Assange and you know it. He was told he could leave, period
sabrina 1
Oct 2012
#202
... Assange himself told friends in London that he was supposed to return to Stockholm
struggle4progress
Oct 2012
#190
Don't worry, a majority of people around the world and even here in the US, DO see what is going on
sabrina 1
Oct 2012
#181
I've provided over 20 links in this thread. You've provided none so far.
struggle4progress
Oct 2012
#192
Yes, she is a disgrace. I believer there was discussion of her behavior early on and several
sabrina 1
Oct 2012
#182