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In reply to the discussion: Trump contradicts US intel by claiming he's seen evidence coronavirus originated in Chinese lab [View all]Ghost Dog
(16,881 posts)34. Does stovepiped confrontation with China help his chances in November?
... It certainly is unusual, and reflects the politically charged nature of the topic as the Trump administration tries hard to deflect attention from its own performance during the pandemic, said Paul Pillar, a former senior CIA officer who has been critical of the administration. The statement appears to be a compromise that makes the IC [intelligence community] appear to be working objectively without pouring cold water on the White House's favorite rhetorical line about Chinese malfeasance, said Pillar, now with Georgetown University.
Others, however, see the statement as a smart move, given the onslaught of disinformation that has surrounded the pandemic.
[Its] doubtful that this was spin or US disinformation, said Larry Pfeiffer, a former CIA chief of staff and former senior director of the White House Situation Room, who like Pillar has been critical of the White Houses handling of intelligence matters. I give the ODNI credit for stepping up to the plate to add some clarity to the situation.
The statement may also portend a greater public role for U.S. intelligence agencies going forward. These are trying times, said Daniel Hoffman, a retired senior CIA officer. Theres a lot of disinformation, misinformation and ignorance....
https://www.voanews.com/covid-19-pandemic/trump-contradicts-us-intelligence-says-covid-19-came-chinese-lab
Others, however, see the statement as a smart move, given the onslaught of disinformation that has surrounded the pandemic.
[Its] doubtful that this was spin or US disinformation, said Larry Pfeiffer, a former CIA chief of staff and former senior director of the White House Situation Room, who like Pillar has been critical of the White Houses handling of intelligence matters. I give the ODNI credit for stepping up to the plate to add some clarity to the situation.
The statement may also portend a greater public role for U.S. intelligence agencies going forward. These are trying times, said Daniel Hoffman, a retired senior CIA officer. Theres a lot of disinformation, misinformation and ignorance....
https://www.voanews.com/covid-19-pandemic/trump-contradicts-us-intelligence-says-covid-19-came-chinese-lab
The Office of the Director of National Intelligence released a statement on Thursday saying the U.S. intelligence community "concurs with the wide scientific consensus that the COVID-19 virus was not manmade or genetically modified,"...
Earlier in the day, the New York Times reported that Trump administration officials, led by Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, have pushed U.S. spy agencies to find evidence linking the coronavirus with the Wuhan lab...
https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattperez/2020/04/30/trump-claims-to-have-seen-evidence-linking-coronavirus-to-wuhan-lab-after-intelligence-chief-says-virus-not-manmade/
Earlier in the day, the New York Times reported that Trump administration officials, led by Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, have pushed U.S. spy agencies to find evidence linking the coronavirus with the Wuhan lab...
https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattperez/2020/04/30/trump-claims-to-have-seen-evidence-linking-coronavirus-to-wuhan-lab-after-intelligence-chief-says-virus-not-manmade/
U.S. President Donald Trump said on Thursday his hard-fought trade deal with China was now of secondary importance to the coronavirus pandemic and he threatened new tariffs on Beijing, as his administration crafted retaliatory measures over the outbreak...
Two U.S. officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, said a range of options against China were under discussion, but cautioned that efforts were in the early stages. Recommendations have not yet reached the level of Trump's top national security team or the president, one official told Reuters.
"There is a discussion as to how hard to hit China and how to calibrate it properly," one of the sources said as Washington walks a tightrope in its ties with Beijing while it imports personal protection equipment (PPE) from there and is wary of harming a sensitive trade deal.
Trump made clear, however, that his concerns about China's role in the origin and spread of the coronavirus were taking priority for now over his efforts to build on an initial trade agreement with Beijing that long dominated his dealings with the world's second-largest economy...
https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-china/trump-threatens-new-tariffs-on-china-in-retaliation-for-coronavirus-idUKKBN22C3DS
Two U.S. officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, said a range of options against China were under discussion, but cautioned that efforts were in the early stages. Recommendations have not yet reached the level of Trump's top national security team or the president, one official told Reuters.
"There is a discussion as to how hard to hit China and how to calibrate it properly," one of the sources said as Washington walks a tightrope in its ties with Beijing while it imports personal protection equipment (PPE) from there and is wary of harming a sensitive trade deal.
Trump made clear, however, that his concerns about China's role in the origin and spread of the coronavirus were taking priority for now over his efforts to build on an initial trade agreement with Beijing that long dominated his dealings with the world's second-largest economy...
https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-china/trump-threatens-new-tariffs-on-china-in-retaliation-for-coronavirus-idUKKBN22C3DS
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Trump contradicts US intel by claiming he's seen evidence coronavirus originated in Chinese lab [View all]
denem
Apr 2020
OP
tRump's "evidence" is murky shit from hard RW sources that is all confirmation bias and correlation
Bernardo de La Paz
Apr 2020
#1
When asked how he knew Trump said, "I can't tell you that. I'm not allowed to tell you that."
Botany
Apr 2020
#2
He's the President. He's allowed to tell us anything. He can declassify anything.
TeamPooka
Apr 2020
#8
Hmm, Hmm - Who told him? The same people that told him Pres Obama was born in Kenya?
tulipsandroses
Apr 2020
#9
Now which portrait in the White House put that thought in his head? Thinking, thinking. Nixooooooon!
Efilroft Sul
Apr 2020
#11
The collection of corona viruses from bats by Shi Zhengli was supported by US institutions
soryang
Apr 2020
#12
"Nobody is claiming the virus is manmade" is inaccurate; some wingnuts are
muriel_volestrangler
May 2020
#32
just like he knows more than the admirals and generals and covid would disappear by april
samsingh
Apr 2020
#17
Few people know how much evidence US intel has that the virus was created in a Chinese Lab.
Xipe Totec
Apr 2020
#18
The whole thing about "I can't tell you" is just him preening - trying to make himself sound
scarletwoman
May 2020
#28
Lies like a dog. The President has sole and ultimate carte blanche to declassify any fucking thing
AtheistCrusader
May 2020
#30
From remarks he made before noon, in a meeting with NJ governor Phil Murphy:
mahatmakanejeeves
May 2020
#33