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In reply to the discussion: At U.N., free speech divides West and Muslim nations [View all]slackmaster
(60,567 posts)97. Have you read the Magna Carta? Here's the first clause and a comment about the rest...
(1) FIRST, THAT WE HAVE GRANTED TO GOD, and by this present charter have confirmed for us and our heirs in perpetuity, that the English Church shall be free, and shall have its rights undiminished, and its liberties unimpaired. That we wish this so to be observed, appears from the fact that of our own free will, before the outbreak of the present dispute between us and our barons, we granted and confirmed by charter the freedom of the Church's elections - a right reckoned to be of the greatest necessity and importance to it - and caused this to be confirmed by Pope Innocent III. This freedom we shall observe ourselves, and desire to be observed in good faith by our heirs in perpetuity.
The first sentence is a strong affirmation that all rights exist in the absence of government.
The rest of it deals with essentially the scope of government authority, property rights, powers and responsibilities of barons, inheritance, and rules for specific situations.
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/magnacarta.asp
The first sentence is a strong affirmation that all rights exist in the absence of government.
The rest of it deals with essentially the scope of government authority, property rights, powers and responsibilities of barons, inheritance, and rules for specific situations.
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/magnacarta.asp
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I honestly did not see that you had replied before I made my edit for clarity.
Quantess
Sep 2012
#94
If police were arresting people for typing mAnn Coulter, then that would be a violation of
ZombieHorde
Sep 2012
#91
Your reply shows you have a different concept of 'natural' from some others
muriel_volestrangler
Sep 2012
#22
The exceptional ability of humans to use language distinguishes us from all other species
slackmaster
Sep 2012
#26
Mute and autistic people do have at least part of normal human capacity to use language
slackmaster
Sep 2012
#86
But our foundation documents allow government to curtail our rights only through due process of law
slackmaster
Sep 2012
#87
It doesn't explicitly say all rights exist except those that have been restricted through due...
slackmaster
Sep 2012
#93
I'd say it's the difference between an American and a non-American outlook
muriel_volestrangler
Sep 2012
#100
I think rights can be listed outside a constitution as well as inside it
muriel_volestrangler
Sep 2012
#101
So, you don't have the right to get a tattoo unless it's been specifically discussed in public...
slackmaster
Sep 2012
#104
If there are age restrictions, then it doesn't sound like it's being treated as a natural right
muriel_volestrangler
Sep 2012
#105
The age of majority of 18 is the result of a consensus decision by the people
slackmaster
Sep 2012
#106
So, we have only those Rights that have been specifically listed in the Constitution?
PavePusher
Sep 2012
#95
Have you read the Magna Carta? Here's the first clause and a comment about the rest...
slackmaster
Sep 2012
#97
considering how much hatred is spewed by the religionists, they have no claims here nt
msongs
Sep 2012
#10
No, it doesn't say anything about Erdogan talking about this in person at the UN
muriel_volestrangler
Sep 2012
#23
yes indeed the article did nicely tie Erdogan and Morsy to Ahmadinejad didn't it ?
azurnoir
Sep 2012
#34
really I suggest you rethink that or what would happen if one called a Black co-worker ni""er
azurnoir
Sep 2012
#58
Well, if you base censorship on who gets offended, it's bound to be subjective. nt
bemildred
Sep 2012
#31
I actually don't know but at this point it seems to surround blasphemy or antiIslam
azurnoir
Sep 2012
#46