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Aquaria

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16. Here's the illegal activity committed by the "students" that was omitted:
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 02:28 PM
Nov 2019

"While 'enrolled' at the University, one hundred percent of the foreign citizen students never spent a single second in a classroom. If it were truly about obtaining an education, the University would not have been able to attract anyone, because it had no teachers, classes, or educational services."

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Rampeesa arrived in the U.S. legally a few years ago on a student visa and earned in 2016 a master's degree in computer science at Northwestern Polytechnic University. But the university later lost its accreditation, which put his immigration status in jeopardy. He had spent $40,000 in tuition and fees for his studies at the university.

"He was desperate to find a way to stay in the United States," Rampeesa's attorney, Cal, wrote in his sentencing memo. He wanted to get a Ph.D. in computer science, she said.

Rampeesa then met Sama, who recruited him to attend the University of Farmington and told him he could get tuition credits if he recruited other students, Cal said.

Sama and Rampeesa were working with people they thought were university officials, but were actually undercover agents for the Department of Homeland Security.

"My client has no other criminal history, not even a traffic ticket," Cal said in court last week.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Baker said in court that Rampeesa was "aware it was completely fake," that "it was just for maintaining status."

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So it was a little more complicated than the big bad government luring students to a fake university. That this so-called school never held any classes, offered no instruction and had zero professors of any kind was a huge honking signal that it was a fake. The people who kept paying "tuition" did so to maintain their student visas, even though they weren't students.

And that is illegal.

Yes, some people did get lured in and left the school when they realized it was a scam, only to get slammed by ICE for being here on illegitimate (at the time) student visas--and that part of the sting is wrong. But the college's recruiters and people who stayed on despite the scam? They knew what the score was, and played along, anyway, for their own selfish reasons.

ICE deserves much of the criticism it gets, but this is one occasion when it's not entirely warranted. Scams like this fake university go on all the time to provide a fig leaf of being here for a legit reason. It's not fair to the innocents who get lured in by these fake colleges, only to get ripped off. They pay good money to be in school here, and deserve to get the education they pay for, rather than used for some assholes to stay here on illegitimate visas.

ICE atreides1 Nov 2019 #1
If they had been thinking, DENVERPOPS Nov 2019 #19
What the ever lovin' fuck is this all about? Dyedinthewoolliberal Nov 2019 #2
Yes, exactly. James48 Nov 2019 #8
The people who set this up should be fired and arrested. lagomorph777 Nov 2019 #21
WOWOWOW ... WTFF? And what an utter and complete DICK MOVE by ICE ... nt mr_lebowski Nov 2019 #3
That's some fucking bullshit right there. TeamPooka Nov 2019 #4
This story makes about zero sense jberryhill Nov 2019 #5
Pump numbers to legitimize their organization? EarthFirst Nov 2019 #11
The Icestappo! Newest Reality Nov 2019 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author INdemo Nov 2019 #33
Except ... SomewhereInTheMiddle Dec 2019 #38
Utterly disgusting. ABOLISH ICE NOW! RobertDevereaux Nov 2019 #7
Great idea. Mr.Bill Nov 2019 #9
Why was it started in 2016 in the first place? virgogal Nov 2019 #10
Spoiler alert: freep.com is Detroit Free Press louis-t Nov 2019 #12
Thanks,I had clicked on it....and was a tad confused. virgogal Nov 2019 #13
It sounds like they set it up in order to lure in immigrants Sapient Donkey Nov 2019 #34
How is this not some form of entrapment ... fake University tricks real legally engaged students NotHardly Nov 2019 #14
It would be obvious when there were no classes ever held. MichMan Nov 2019 #15
Entrapment is design by the government to get someone to perform something illegal ... aggiesal Nov 2019 #20
A scam, not a sting. lagomorph777 Nov 2019 #22
Both actually ... aggiesal Nov 2019 #23
Here's the illegal activity committed by the "students" that was omitted: Aquaria Nov 2019 #16
It still doesn't make sense jberryhill Nov 2019 #17
In such cases law enforcement must.... reACTIONary Nov 2019 #26
This could have gone very wrong jberryhill Nov 2019 #28
You are right. nt reACTIONary Nov 2019 #30
Thanks for investigating further.... reACTIONary Nov 2019 #24
My issue is this. If you get a university falsely "accredited" and put it ... moriah Nov 2019 #35
That answers my questions from upstream. SomewhereInTheMiddle Dec 2019 #39
The "they should have known" argument isn't always applicable caraher Nov 2019 #18
Completely fake. And yet... ThoughtCriminal Nov 2019 #25
Where did tuition money go? Obviously laws were broken, but an accounting seems to be in order Kurt V. Nov 2019 #27
Shameful. Evil. Cruel. GanjaGrower Nov 2019 #29
This is the craziest d_r Nov 2019 #31
I hope the attorneys win JonLP24 Nov 2019 #32
This is sketchy from the start, I don't think this is one of those hughee99 Dec 2019 #36
Terrorists do like to to come here on student visas and have done that before, correct? Captain Zero Dec 2019 #37
This seems like a very big and expensive undertaking hughee99 Dec 2019 #40
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