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94. Hardly the Reason...

Tue Sep 18, 2012, 10:56 PM

Sep 2012

The gnostic gospels reflected the Christian similarities to Mahayana Buddhism, which, if left intact, negated the necessity of the Church orthodoxy. The following passage is more to the point as it threatened the existence of Church authority:

(113) His disciples said to him, "When will the kingdom come?"
<Jesus said,> "It will not come by waiting for it. It will not be a matter of saying 'here it is' or 'there it is.' Rather, the kingdom of the father is spread out upon the earth, and men do not see it."

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A Faded Piece of Papyrus Refers to Jesus' Wife [View all] Octafish Sep 2012 OP

"The provenance of the papyrus fragment is a mystery, and its owner librechik Sep 2012 #1

I wouldn't be surprised if the Vatican had more evidence of this LiberalEsto Sep 2012 #43

It is illogical to me that they would EVER be honest about anything. loudsue Sep 2012 #49

Nope. Xolodno Sep 2012 #106

lol--you are exactly right. librechik Sep 2012 #110

Take my wife. mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2012 #2

Ba da boom Berlum Sep 2012 #7

Take my wife,... AnneD Sep 2012 #15

So I smiled and walked on out to get it. nt tblue37 Sep 2012 #27

I SOOOOOOO had the exact same thought. IronicNews Sep 2012 #122

Of course! His wife Mary Magdelene. RevStPatrick Sep 2012 #3

Hypothesis put forward in 1982 in the book "The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail". MicaelS Sep 2012 #6

I thought Mary Magdeline was the town whore? LynneSin Sep 2012 #20

she wasn't a whore Randomthought Sep 2012 #24

Agree LynneSin Sep 2012 #25

I believe it was Pope Limbaugh ToxMarz Sep 2012 #39

Exactly. That was a falsehood perpetuated renaissanceguy Sep 2012 #97

I thought all NOLALady Sep 2012 #26

Or virgins siligut Sep 2012 #37

That's because it's a fucked-up religion. Ghost Dog Sep 2012 #70

Hey, whores make good wives. malthaussen Sep 2012 #55

Ha. Thank you for defending the Whores. LOL IronicNews Sep 2012 #123

Yup, and there are living descendents siligut Sep 2012 #40

Still... Dan Brown does do a fist bump to the air anyhow kenfrequed Sep 2012 #119

Interesting, however... Bragi Sep 2012 #4

Jesus was a historical figure? Since when? stopbush Sep 2012 #11

Good question Bragi Sep 2012 #13

He went by the name "Joshua Ben Joseph" Blue State Bandit Sep 2012 #42

Whether your ancestors lived remains a matter of speculation malthaussen Sep 2012 #57

There is a suspcious lack of any contemporary records and accounts Bragi Sep 2012 #67

Yes, I have understood for over 40 years that that is so, to the best of our knowledge. Ghost Dog Sep 2012 #72

There is nothing suspicious about it. There are few contemporary records and accounts. kwassa Sep 2012 #95

Well then Bragi Sep 2012 #96

You're joking right? Otherwise this is bizarre logic...as you say, we're evidence of our ancestors.. Moonwalk Sep 2012 #78

Mighty far beside the point since no one is assumed to be the descendant of Jesus. FiveGoodMen Sep 2012 #79

well, my ancestry is documented as far back as 900 years fascisthunter Sep 2012 #86

I think God would have left some irrefutable evidence. GeorgeGist Sep 2012 #100

Why would this supposed god-thing leave evidence malthaussen Sep 2012 #120

Which sources? kenfrequed Sep 2012 #118

wasn't the first council of Nicea where Mary Magdalene was declared a whore? azurnoir Sep 2012 #62

The Emperor Constantine Ghost Dog Sep 2012 #74

If Jesus was historical yellerpup Sep 2012 #28

As with all things like this it is selective in what is believed. zeemike Sep 2012 #54

A gnostic document from the 4th century? BarackTheVote Sep 2012 #5

Thomas Was a Disciple, if I Recall Correctly mckara Sep 2012 #76

There are two gospels of Thomas BarackTheVote Sep 2012 #90

Hardly the Reason... mckara Sep 2012 #94

I just mentioned this to a work mate and she fucking went off on me! lunatica Sep 2012 #8

I don't understand people like that, at all. I find it fascinating, not threatening in any way. Indpndnt Sep 2012 #47

This is especially strange as the Copts were, and remain, monophysites dmallind Sep 2012 #9

If John 2.1 is not describing the marriage of Jesus then why is his mother there? KurtNYC Sep 2012 #10

It could have been referring to another "Jesus", like the baker's son, instead of the carpenter's so dmosh42 Sep 2012 #12

or maybe Jesus Alou, who played ball for the SF Giants in the 60s. olddad56 Sep 2012 #16

! ellie Sep 2012 #33

Fabulous... thc420 Sep 2012 #46

wwjb olddad56 Sep 2012 #66

Um... BarackTheVote Sep 2012 #19

No, someone will probably write that he was born in Kenya. tblue37 Sep 2012 #30

+1 my point, exactly BarackTheVote Sep 2012 #32

3wives mpdog Sep 2012 #36

Yup. aquart Sep 2012 #59

Yup. Such (incorrigibly mischivious monkeys) we are. Eg.: Ghost Dog Sep 2012 #77

The Inside Story of a Controversial New Text About Jesus (The Smithsonian) struggle4progress Sep 2012 #14

Thank you very much, struggle4progress! Octafish Sep 2012 #60

Pick me, I know the answer to this one! Bragi Sep 2012 #69

1984, right? Octafish Sep 2012 #105

fascinating!!! newspeak Sep 2012 #107

Satori or Salvation? What's the diff? Octafish Sep 2012 #109

sorry octofish, i've been gone all day newspeak Sep 2012 #121

many fragments from 4th c. exist.... Evasporque Sep 2012 #17

are you saying onethatcares Sep 2012 #48

no not at all... Evasporque Sep 2012 #51

Humanity could only hope for a new christianity to emerge...soon... Evasporque Sep 2012 #18

how about a new spirituality that wasn't based on any particular religion. olddad56 Sep 2012 #21

like UUs....? nt Evasporque Sep 2012 #23

It already has... RoccoR5955 Sep 2012 #56

What will really freak people out is if this fragment comes from.... Evasporque Sep 2012 #22

The rest of it has been deciphered!!! Javaman Sep 2012 #29

BTW, weren't the Dead Sea Scrolls found in a man cave? nt tblue37 Sep 2012 #31

Thou shalt not vaccuum whilst the game is playing BarackTheVote Sep 2012 #34

I like it, I like it.. :>)) pangaia Sep 2012 #35

This is not all too surprising Did I Just Type This Sep 2012 #38

He was also a good catch malthaussen Sep 2012 #61

A lot of Christians can't accept the idea of Jesus having a wife. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2012 #41

Sex? With MY Jesus? Shitty Mitty Sep 2012 #87

He's not that good, actually.... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2012 #89

Ok, comment of the year!!! Nt adigal Sep 2012 #98

I gave my love to Jesus... progressoid Sep 2012 #114

Non-Starter..... Xolodno Sep 2012 #44

Probably a hoax WeekendWarrior Sep 2012 #45

Josephus, the Roman historian wrote of him -- although that could be a hoax too. JDPriestly Sep 2012 #84

Thanks for that Bragi Sep 2012 #92

The references in question have been debunked time and again WeekendWarrior Sep 2012 #111

I'm waiting for mention of his Bass boat and Mossberg over/under. alfredo Sep 2012 #50

Married or not... sdfernando Sep 2012 #52

It ruins the Jesus rep jmowreader Sep 2012 #116

A Dumb Question Here - Jesus As A Name - Was It A Common Name At That Time..... global1 Sep 2012 #53

It was very common. But not many were documented as "Jesus said to them" ? Kablooie Sep 2012 #58

Barabas, the man who Pilot released, was also named Jesus. BarackTheVote Sep 2012 #64

So My Question Is - Could This Faded Piece of Papyrus That Mentions Jesus's Wife.... global1 Sep 2012 #68

Doesn't it say something about someone being a disciple? Shitty Mitty Sep 2012 #88

Very common... Xolodno Sep 2012 #65

Joshua greymattermom Sep 2012 #103

Posted to for future viewing. 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2012 #63

Thought this was historically interesting. Sorry to see so much belittling snark here about it. pinto Sep 2012 #71

The claim has implications. FiveGoodMen Sep 2012 #80

They shouldn't publish stuff like this. It may be offensive to Christians 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #73

Yeah. But you're not a true believer. Ghost Dog Sep 2012 #82

that`s right... bring up the samurians! madrchsod Sep 2012 #104

I'm sure the Pope will issue a fatwa (nt) Nye Bevan Sep 2012 #101

"Ratzi" will definitely not want to go there. Ken Burch Sep 2012 #75

The parchment is true, and furthermore, it was not a happy union TlalocW Sep 2012 #81

She'd have crucified him if she knew he could just make fish from nothing 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #83

A friend told me that TlalocW Sep 2012 #112

because he did have a wife... sorry priests fascisthunter Sep 2012 #85

Your last comment was amazingly accurate! adigal Sep 2012 #99

So..the chances that Dan Brown and the "DaVinci Code" were on target just got better. Who knew? AnOhioan Sep 2012 #91

K&R idwiyo Sep 2012 #93

That's it! Priests are free to marry now!! no_hypocrisy Sep 2012 #102

"Jesus- pls take out the garbage before you go fishing XOXOX" (nt) Nye Bevan Sep 2012 #108

Not only did JC have a wife, she was a regular on "Real Housewives of Nazareth." Arugula Latte Sep 2012 #113

Isn't Piece Papyrus the chairman of the RNC? Guy Whitey Corngood Sep 2012 #115

That myth has been around since The Queen of Heaven cult 6,000 years or more-His Bride is the Church bobthedrummer Sep 2012 #117