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In reply to the discussion: Video appears to show troops urinating on corpses [View all]Stuart G
(38,458 posts)23. How about this...about war..War against Indians..OK. Sand Creek.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sand_Creek_massacre
Now...you don't have to hit the link..the info is right here..........
Shit...War is to be avoided.......it ruins the fighters minds and turns them into?????????????
read carefully, there was a flag of peace there, there were no fighters there.......there was an American Flag there.......
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Black Kettle, a chief of a group of around 800 mostly Northern Cheyenne, reported to Fort Lyon in an effort to establish peace. After having done so, he and his band, along with some Arapaho under Chief Niwot, camped out at nearby Sand Creek, less than 40 miles north. The Dog Soldiers, who had been responsible for many of the raids on whites, were not part of this encampment. Assured by the U.S. Government's promises of peace, most of the warriors were off hunting buffalo, leaving only around 60 men, and women and children in the village. Most of the men were too old or too young to hunt. Black Kettle flew an American flag over his lodge, since previously the officers had said this would show he was friendly and prevent attack by U.S. soldiers.[15]
Setting out from Fort Lyon, Chivington and his 700 troops of the First Colorado Cavalry, Third Colorado Cavalry and a company of First New Mexico Volunteers marched to Black Kettle's campsite. On the night of November 28, soldiers and militia drank heavily and celebrated their anticipated victory.[16] On the morning of November 29, 1864, Chivington ordered his troops to attack. Two officers, Captain Silas Soule and Lieutenant Joseph Cramer, commanding companies D and K, respectively, of the First Colorado Cavalry, refused to follow Chivington's order and told their men to hold fire.[17] Other soldiers in Chivington's force, however, immediately attacked the village. Disregarding the American flag, and a white flag that was run up shortly after the soldiers commenced firing, Chivington's soldiers massacred many of its inhabitants.
I saw the bodies of those lying there cut all to pieces, worse mutilated than any I ever saw before; the women cut all to pieces ... With knives; scalped; their brains knocked out; children two or three months old; all ages lying there, from sucking infants up to warriors ... By whom were they mutilated? By the United States troops ...
- John S. Smith, Congressional Testimony of Mr. John S. Smith, 1865[18]
Fingers and ears were cut off the bodies for the jewelry they carried. The body of White Antelope, lying solitarily in the creek bed, was a prime target. Besides scalping him the soldiers cut off his nose, ears, and testicles-the last for a tobacco pouch ...
- Stan Hoig[19]
Jis to think of that dog Chivington and his dirty hounds, up thar at Sand Creek. His men shot down squaws, and blew the brains out of little innocent children. You call sich soldiers Christians, do ye? And Indians savages? What der yer 'spose our Heavenly Father, who made both them and us, thinks of these things? I tell you what, I don't like a hostile red skin any more than you do. And when they are hostile, I've fought 'em, hard as any man. But I never yet drew a bead on a squaw or papoose, and I despise the man who would.
Now...you don't have to hit the link..the info is right here..........
Shit...War is to be avoided.......it ruins the fighters minds and turns them into?????????????
read carefully, there was a flag of peace there, there were no fighters there.......there was an American Flag there.......
________________________________________________________________________________________
Black Kettle, a chief of a group of around 800 mostly Northern Cheyenne, reported to Fort Lyon in an effort to establish peace. After having done so, he and his band, along with some Arapaho under Chief Niwot, camped out at nearby Sand Creek, less than 40 miles north. The Dog Soldiers, who had been responsible for many of the raids on whites, were not part of this encampment. Assured by the U.S. Government's promises of peace, most of the warriors were off hunting buffalo, leaving only around 60 men, and women and children in the village. Most of the men were too old or too young to hunt. Black Kettle flew an American flag over his lodge, since previously the officers had said this would show he was friendly and prevent attack by U.S. soldiers.[15]
Setting out from Fort Lyon, Chivington and his 700 troops of the First Colorado Cavalry, Third Colorado Cavalry and a company of First New Mexico Volunteers marched to Black Kettle's campsite. On the night of November 28, soldiers and militia drank heavily and celebrated their anticipated victory.[16] On the morning of November 29, 1864, Chivington ordered his troops to attack. Two officers, Captain Silas Soule and Lieutenant Joseph Cramer, commanding companies D and K, respectively, of the First Colorado Cavalry, refused to follow Chivington's order and told their men to hold fire.[17] Other soldiers in Chivington's force, however, immediately attacked the village. Disregarding the American flag, and a white flag that was run up shortly after the soldiers commenced firing, Chivington's soldiers massacred many of its inhabitants.
I saw the bodies of those lying there cut all to pieces, worse mutilated than any I ever saw before; the women cut all to pieces ... With knives; scalped; their brains knocked out; children two or three months old; all ages lying there, from sucking infants up to warriors ... By whom were they mutilated? By the United States troops ...
- John S. Smith, Congressional Testimony of Mr. John S. Smith, 1865[18]
Fingers and ears were cut off the bodies for the jewelry they carried. The body of White Antelope, lying solitarily in the creek bed, was a prime target. Besides scalping him the soldiers cut off his nose, ears, and testicles-the last for a tobacco pouch ...
- Stan Hoig[19]
Jis to think of that dog Chivington and his dirty hounds, up thar at Sand Creek. His men shot down squaws, and blew the brains out of little innocent children. You call sich soldiers Christians, do ye? And Indians savages? What der yer 'spose our Heavenly Father, who made both them and us, thinks of these things? I tell you what, I don't like a hostile red skin any more than you do. And when they are hostile, I've fought 'em, hard as any man. But I never yet drew a bead on a squaw or papoose, and I despise the man who would.
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You betcha. They are criminal for doing that. How would we feel if it were the other way around.
southernyankeebelle
Jan 2012
#4
I don't know. . .. I think I would rather get pissed on than killed any time!
BigDemVoter
Jan 2012
#15
My father, my uncle, brother and cousin all Marines....let me tell you, this is cowardly
Alameda
Jan 2012
#7
If only we got as outraged by the killing of civilians as we do by the desecration of corpses.
McCamy Taylor
Jan 2012
#11
Not condoning this by any means, but I can't help think that you put a person in a war situation
gateley
Jan 2012
#12
just more recruitment ammunition for the taliban....this behaivor is stupid on so many levels....n/t
unkachuck
Jan 2012
#27
The I may assume that implying DU posters are apologists for the Taliban is also braying too loudly?
LanternWaste
Jan 2012
#137
That's no answer. That's you refusing to listen to the very small & important point I made.
DisgustipatedinCA
Jan 2012
#95
War is hell, so let's go ahead and be as brutal as we can be. Is that the idea?
DisgustipatedinCA
Jan 2012
#100
????? What were the nationalities of the four they mutilated, and whose flag were they operating
cherokeeprogressive
Jan 2012
#105
What is the precise and relevant reason that one's morality should be predicated
LanternWaste
Jan 2012
#140
Terrible photos of terrible crimes. But why is it you think we should become animals?
DisgustipatedinCA
Jan 2012
#99
You appear to be making an argument that one crime, by one person, deserves another crime...
boppers
Jan 2012
#117
I was talking about the Taliban, but your response is thought provoking, anyways.
boppers
Jan 2012
#124