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In reply to the discussion: FLASH: U.S. Ambassador to Libya, 3 Other Embassy Staff Killed in Rocket Attack in Benghazi [View all]heaven05
(18,124 posts)whole thread in the name of religion(both major religions and others), freedom of speech(or not), and a movie(film)? I am amazed at the level of discourse around this tragedy. Two hateful people are involved in a film depicting the Prophet of a major religion as some kind of despicable character and we free citizens end up at each others throats as to who is right or wrong about the reason(s) for this tragedy of the human condition(Libya) that resulted from this hateful and yes disrespectful film.
People were murdered in the name of religion in this incident. Fact. Sad. American freedom of speech does carry a certain amount of personal responsibility as in the example put forward about words used to describe racial/physical characteristics of another human being. Sometimes one must think before they speak. Fact. Sometimes not thinking or not caring about what is being said(as in this inflammatory film) or some of the responses we have had to each other today in this thread can result in violence. As I feel would happen if all of us were in a room somewhere and there no excuse for it. No excuse for the incited right wing hate of this film. No religion is that important that people must die, for any reason. Religion is based on faith. Religion is a personal choice, as is belief in that religion. No one should have to perish because of a belief in a God. If that's the case we will all perish because of the belief in a respective God. Sad.
There are evil people out there acting under the guise of being 'good' religious people. One incites riots with their religious fervor/hate, the other incites suicide flights into buildings, war and many hundreds of thousands of deaths and misery. Not to mention the suicide bombings among many examples in this last decade or so. Which is right? Answer me that.
The Geo-politics of the last 50-60 years has brought us Vietnam, Grenada, Panama, Falkland, death squads in Central America, Gulf War I and II and more. Too many agendas to even comment on. Personally I feel all of these and more were for reasons we will never know. The leaders say "have faith we're doing the right thing people", or in the case of one, "we don't care what you think" and if we are robbed again, electorally, in this case, it will be "you people" don't need to know, ect.
I hope POTUS and SOS handle this situation gingerly and wisely. The call to arms that I'm sure the right wing will be screeching, I hope will be ignored. In volatile regions, ambassador's face this type of violence and yes, injury and death. Goes with the territory. This film maker and Jones are just as responsible for the violence as those who committed it. There are no good guys and bad guys. They are all responsible for their own actions. Jones is religious leader and so are the mullahs who incited people to burn and murder. No one is right!. I know it is too much to ask or even hope could happen but can we start thinking past religion and politics to what is humanly right? Too much to ask or too simplistic? I hope not.