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mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
12. And started under Obama ... I always laughed at the wingnuts who tried to claim Obama ...
Thu Jan 4, 2018, 12:48 AM
Jan 2018

Had 'thrown the door open to illegals, to gain votes for Democrats' when nothing could be further from the truth. He was really more like the Deporter-In-Chief, kicking out FAR more people than Bush or anyone before him had EVER done.

Honestly, the practice by the Government of kicking out actual, adult 'illegal immigrants' is way low on my list of 'concerns' as a Liberal. As long as it's done with people from EVERYWHERE, and not just Brown People. And that they're treated humanely, don't have their property confiscated in the process, etc.

We do have to have borders, and I know a great many 'legal' immigrants who did everything 'right', and it was a LOT of work and dedication to do so. And most of them are not fans of 'illegals' who have skirted the rules, even from their same country of origin.

Dreamers are different, and we should DEFINITELY focus efforts on actual criminals and new-arrivals FIRST ... and I think Motel 6 is FUCKED UP for doing this ... but I'm no big fan of illegal adult immigrants ... of any color. It's not fair.

We do need reform of the system though, esp. for seasonal workers.

And I know it's like DU Sacrilege, but I'd not be entirely against changing the rules via Constitutional Amendment, such that simply being 'born in US territory' via ANY means ... makes you a US Citizen, no matter what. That's actually not how the vast majority of the world works, and I don't see why we have to do it that way here, either. I don't support doing it RETROACTIVELY, however. Hell no.

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