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In reply to the discussion: In Vast Effort, F.D.A. Spied on E-Mails of Its Own Scientists [View all]boppers
(16,588 posts)44. Journalists are government representatives?
They were leaking confidential information to anybody who would listen, trying to lobby for changing the standards.
Typically, this happens when somebody has a financial interest in a competing product that would meet the changed standards... so, not roads, but millions and billions in sales of drugs and medical devices.
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In what way is using a public resource, to send a public message, over a public network.... private?
boppers
Jul 2012
#8
These people were whistleblowing. You're seriously thinking that anyone, for any reason, should be
MADem
Jul 2012
#9
I don't mean to be rude, but when you keep repeatedly insisting that you are right, and you are not,
MADem
Jul 2012
#32
Sorry--I continue to vociferously disagree with your argument. And I have first-hand experience
MADem
Jul 2012
#40
"specifically protected under the law, including attorney-client communications, whistle-blower complaints to Congress and workplace grievances filed with the government.
bananas
Jul 2012
#16
I did read it--I understand what the scientists did. It's called whistleblowing, not "lobbying."
MADem
Jul 2012
#52
You didn't read the article, and now you are being rude, so yeah, we are done. nt
MADem
Jul 2012
#58
Wow - and then it was posted on a public website by a private document-handling contractor. nt
bananas
Jul 2012
#3
How does one send email "privately" from an employer- (i.e. government-) owned laptop computer?
slackmaster
Jul 2012
#6
They sent emails from government accounts, on government computers, over government networks.
boppers
Jul 2012
#7
It's safe to assume they signed a computer usage agreement that explicitly says their activity...
slackmaster
Jul 2012
#11
specifically protected under the law,including attorney-client communications,whistle-blower complaints to Congress andworkplace grievances filed with thegovernment.
bananas
Jul 2012
#17
"specifically protected under the law, including attorney-client communications, whistle-blower complaints to Congress and workplace grievances filed with the government.
bananas
Jul 2012
#18
So the senders should put "whistle blower complaint" or "attorney client" in the Subject line
FarCenter
Jul 2012
#20
These asshole managers committed multiple felonies and should be thrown in jail for a long time. nt
bananas
Jul 2012
#27
The other nuance is that their bosses in the criminal investigation division at Health and Human
MADem
Jul 2012
#36
The IG at HHS told them that the scientists and researchers were doing NOTHING WRONG.
MADem
Jul 2012
#33
When the IG of the agency above you says the scientist/researchers were doing NOTHING WRONG, I think
MADem
Jul 2012
#35
This appears to have been done by FDA IT security people with the advice of FDA counsel.
FarCenter
Jul 2012
#37