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pnwmom

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35. There's probably not much you can do, except infect them with your enthusiasm.
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 03:32 PM
Jul 2012

My son's teachers at a private school were able to do that (and to individualize instruction), but the public school teachers have much bigger classes and much less time. I completely understand how difficult it must be for them.

My theory about very bright children is that the most important thing is to keep them self-motivated, and that grades tend to work against that. What good does it do to reward them for coasting? Or to penalize them when they actually take a risk and yet fail?

When I had a child in public school who excelled at math, I asked teachers to let her work on her own. They thought she was doing fine because she already knew the material -- but I wanted her to have the chance to really dig in and struggle a little, at least some of the time, just like most kids. One of her teachers strongly resisted the loss of control (so my daughter learned nothing all year), but the rest were open to it. So my daughter and her best friend taught themselves math from teachers' texts during most of elementary school, off in a corner where they weren't bothering anyone else. So they never developed the habit of coasting and they both went on to get PhD's in technical fields.

writing - if it can't be done on a cell phone it won't be done lol nt msongs Jul 2012 #1
I know a teen salin Jul 2012 #47
Wow, article about lack of challenge and the "dumb kids" cliches still come out. (nt) Posteritatis Jul 2012 #49
Shocking! 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #2
Right wing talking points. Kingofalldems Jul 2012 #7
No, that's absolutely true 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #9
Personally speaking, that was exactly my experience joeglow3 Jul 2012 #10
Yes -- you succeeded because the instruction was at your pace. pnwmom Jul 2012 #15
Yeahno, school actually has been dumbed down to absurd levels in the last decade or two. (nt) Posteritatis Jul 2012 #12
Not everything is a RW talking point! Spoonman Jul 2012 #13
Exactly. Just because a Republican shares an idea HotRodTuna Jul 2012 #36
They have been saying this since the early '70's Kingofalldems Jul 2012 #42
"They"? Spoonman Jul 2012 #52
"They" meaning your side of course Kingofalldems Jul 2012 #58
Yeah but what would she know? 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #60
Ah, king you say... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2012 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author Kingofalldems Jul 2012 #43
Sorry, i wasn't slamming you... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2012 #44
OK. Cool. Kingofalldems Jul 2012 #45
No - in our school district the gifted and talented program was the first to go hack89 Jul 2012 #56
It's almost as if logical fallacies such as post hoc ergo prompter hoc are no longer being taught... LanternWaste Jul 2012 #28
Post hoc ergo *propter* hoc 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #57
Not from my point of view onlyadream Jul 2012 #3
I think this may be true. murielm99 Jul 2012 #4
I think this is an important point. wickerwoman Jul 2012 #6
I remember people complaining in a college WRITING class about a 3 page paper joeglow3 Jul 2012 #11
Yeah, when TAing I had a few who'd meltdown at five-page, five-source papers. Posteritatis Jul 2012 #17
Of course it's too easy for 37%! pnwmom Jul 2012 #14
I once had a student who came from a town of 500 in Alaska Lydia Leftcoast Jul 2012 #5
What you are saying is to expect continued and exboyfil Jul 2012 #19
Our school board had limited options. Key policy is set by the state, as are class sizes. pnwmom Jul 2012 #22
But what do you do with the coasting students who know the stuff? Igel Jul 2012 #27
There's probably not much you can do, except infect them with your enthusiasm. pnwmom Jul 2012 #35
I'd like to know what is the distribution of kids in different states and different SECs/schools. Mass Jul 2012 #8
Another BUSH legacy!!!! "No Child Left Behind" Spoonman Jul 2012 #16
Of course it was too easy for 37%. pnwmom Jul 2012 #18
Or Sgent Jul 2012 #30
Few schools use tracking anymore. It's not a panacea. n/t pnwmom Jul 2012 #31
Where are the parents in this report? justice1 Jul 2012 #20
The parents are......... Spoonman Jul 2012 #21
There are only three sulphurdunn Jul 2012 #23
This certainly would explain why high school graduates don't know anything kestrel91316 Jul 2012 #24
The high school curriculum sulphurdunn Jul 2012 #55
"39% of 12th-graders say they rarely write about what they read in class" Igel Jul 2012 #25
Well, they just need 4 more hours daily of the same math problems AllyCat Jul 2012 #26
The thing is that today in eduation, all efforts go to teaching THE TEST. Teachers 1monster Jul 2012 #29
Ever read a textbook from the turn of the last century? Warpy Jul 2012 #32
In the 1990s, I volunteered in a tutoring program for street kids Lydia Leftcoast Jul 2012 #37
Half of all children have above average IQ AngryAmish Jul 2012 #34
The same thing we do now HotRodTuna Jul 2012 #38
That's ... really not what "average" means. (nt) Posteritatis Jul 2012 #48
Average has three meanings in statistics AngryAmish Jul 2012 #50
there is a problem with it though, a concern d_r Jul 2012 #51
It is not just about money. Steerpike Jul 2012 #39
I like your plan ladym55 Jul 2012 #46
Most of what you're describing was available to me klook Jul 2012 #54
A headline worthy of The Onion slackmaster Jul 2012 #40
Flawed Data. And here's the REBUTTAL... YvonneCa Jul 2012 #53
No Child Left Behind. progressoid Jul 2012 #41
as the parent of two recently graduated young adults, I've seen that in Washington State, not Calif. progressivebydesign Jul 2012 #59
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