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In reply to the discussion: Records show Clinton received just one training brief on classified info [View all]leveymg
(36,418 posts)90. That was before 1/22 when the FBI confirmed there were TS/SAP classified materials on the server
Too many people assume too much about the President's omniscience at any given moment about matters not immediately before him. Note, he hasn't repeated that statement. That decision is now for the FBI Director, and then the AG. In the end, come January 22, we will know what Obama really thinks, and whether like Bill Clinton in the case of CIA Director John Deutch, he decides to issue a pardon.
Most people who have signed a security agreement know what the consequences would be if they, too, decided to host classified information on a private server. They know she broke the law. Here are the thoughts of one of them:
http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/presidential-campaign/266477-the-smoking-gun
Special Access Programs (SAP) is a game changer. It is now undeniably clear that the results of the FBI investigation will be the end of one of two things: Hillarys bid for the White House or the legitimacy of the FBIat least when it comes to prosecuting cases on the mishandling of classified material.
. . .
As more information from Hillary Clintons server has been made available, it is clear that the contents of the server contained Imagery Intelligence (IMINT), Human Intelligence (HUMINT), and Signal Intelligence (SIGINT). Understanding that much of the information has been retroactively classified, there are a few facts that are tough to graspat least from the perspective of an intelligence practitioner.
First, when imagery that is classified SECRET//NOFORN (no foreign national) is viewed, regardless of the absence of classification markings, it is distinctly evident. Second, any documents that contain or reference HUMINT is always classified SECRET, and if specific names of sources or handlers are mentioned, they are at a minimum SECRET//NOFORN. Third, SIGINT is always classified at the TS level. Its not uncommon for some SI to be downgraded and shared over SECRET mediums, however, it is highly unlikely that a Secretary of State would receive downgraded intelligence. Finally, SAP intelligence has been discovered on Clintons private server, and many are now calling this the smoking gun. SAP is a specialized management system of additional security controls designed to protect SAR or Special Access Required. SAR has to do with extremely perishable operational methods and capabilities, and only selected individuals who are read on or indoctrinated are permitted access to these programs. The mishandling of SAP can cause catastrophic damage to current collection methods, techniques and personnel.
In other words, if you have worked with classified material for more than a day, it seems highly implausible that someone could receive any of the aforementioned over an un-secure medium without alarm bells sounding. However, reading about a Special Access Program on an unclassified device would make anyone even remotely familiar with intelligence mess their pantsuit.
Special Access Programs (SAP) is a game changer. It is now undeniably clear that the results of the FBI investigation will be the end of one of two things: Hillarys bid for the White House or the legitimacy of the FBIat least when it comes to prosecuting cases on the mishandling of classified material.
. . .
As more information from Hillary Clintons server has been made available, it is clear that the contents of the server contained Imagery Intelligence (IMINT), Human Intelligence (HUMINT), and Signal Intelligence (SIGINT). Understanding that much of the information has been retroactively classified, there are a few facts that are tough to graspat least from the perspective of an intelligence practitioner.
First, when imagery that is classified SECRET//NOFORN (no foreign national) is viewed, regardless of the absence of classification markings, it is distinctly evident. Second, any documents that contain or reference HUMINT is always classified SECRET, and if specific names of sources or handlers are mentioned, they are at a minimum SECRET//NOFORN. Third, SIGINT is always classified at the TS level. Its not uncommon for some SI to be downgraded and shared over SECRET mediums, however, it is highly unlikely that a Secretary of State would receive downgraded intelligence. Finally, SAP intelligence has been discovered on Clintons private server, and many are now calling this the smoking gun. SAP is a specialized management system of additional security controls designed to protect SAR or Special Access Required. SAR has to do with extremely perishable operational methods and capabilities, and only selected individuals who are read on or indoctrinated are permitted access to these programs. The mishandling of SAP can cause catastrophic damage to current collection methods, techniques and personnel.
In other words, if you have worked with classified material for more than a day, it seems highly implausible that someone could receive any of the aforementioned over an un-secure medium without alarm bells sounding. However, reading about a Special Access Program on an unclassified device would make anyone even remotely familiar with intelligence mess their pantsuit.
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Records show Clinton received just one training brief on classified info [View all]
w4rma
Mar 2016
OP
She knew, and she signed a security agreement that day where the penalties were laid out. Linked
leveymg
Mar 2016
#13
Yes, so you know what would happen to you if you ran classified info on your own server
leveymg
Mar 2016
#84
Sorry, no -- there are standards... she doesn't get to make them up at her own whim.
JudyM
Mar 2016
#14
By law, there are standard definitions - she can adjust particulars, but the idea that she can say
JudyM
Mar 2016
#17
She never sent classified documents through her server. She used the classified system
pnwmom
Mar 2016
#18
The SoS was supposed to send classified email on the separate, classified system.
pnwmom
Mar 2016
#27
When you have a choice of sources and you "choose" Free Beacon my thought is that this is where
MADem
Mar 2016
#60
She wasn't some "senior staffer" -- she was agency head. As such, Federal law makes her
pnwmom
Mar 2016
#3
But much of the really sensitive classified material found did not originate at State
Yo_Mama
Mar 2016
#47
Classified info arises from any departments, and she had to follow rules on that info
Yo_Mama
Mar 2016
#48
Right. And handling that is simple, too. Classified documents from other departments
pnwmom
Mar 2016
#49
A good leader doesn't ask their subordinates to do anything they aren't willing to do.
bluedigger
Mar 2016
#20
And if you were a lowly enlisted member of the military, or even a senior officer,
MADem
Mar 2016
#23
This is a GOP story, period. This story exists to destroy Hillary, period.
Jackie Wilson Said
Mar 2016
#28
She was a lawyer, and had been first lady and a senator. She KNEW her emails were public
Zira
Mar 2016
#41
Seems we spend way too much time hearing that said about the Clintons. n/t
winter is coming
Mar 2016
#107
As the article said-this is sure to be red meat for her critics. YUP--the Sanders
riversedge
Mar 2016
#78
What this says to me is that compliance with the Department's own rules was unimportant to her.
JudyM
Mar 2016
#81
Obama repeatedly said her use of the server did not pose a national security problem.
pnwmom
Mar 2016
#89
That was before 1/22 when the FBI confirmed there were TS/SAP classified materials on the server
leveymg
Mar 2016
#90
There are no TS/SAP documents on the server - the information was stripped out of other agency docs
leveymg
Mar 2016
#93
There was no law that required she use her .gov account for non-classified govt. emails.
pnwmom
Mar 2016
#114
That was a DOS regulation that changed. It has been a crime since 1917 to mishandle
leveymg
Mar 2016
#116
You can post Rethug rumors all you want. It doesn't matter where you get this stuff,
pnwmom
Mar 2016
#111
There has to be a germ of truth for disinformation to work. Yours are completely
leveymg
Mar 2016
#112
Disinformation doesn't require a germ of truth. For example, the Salem Witch trials.
pnwmom
Mar 2016
#113