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63. its a pointless comparison when his point was to say a non living min wage isn't the problem
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 08:49 AM
Nov 2015

Those with a GED or less can walk into a McDonald's to work after training too... Should welders stop going to welding school to go work at mcdonalds because why waste all that time going to school when you can be directly employed right now??
Philosophy majors with a 4 year degree are extremely employable, as well as having a ton of options like law school or medical school -- which i don't quite understand the argument against doing, unless claiming people should not pursue careers that require more schooling than that of a 1-2 year certification program. Which a person with a bachelors in philosophy can go on to do as well, IF THEY WANTED.
the comparison is silly because it almost sounds as if its being implied majors in philosophy are preventing others or are incapable themselves of becoming welders. what i'm hearing is "all these damn unemployable philosophers are completely wasting their welding potential to pursue their passion in other professions requiring them to be smarter and disciplined enough to commit themselves to the workload involved in their particular fields." Not to say welders aren't capable of any of that, they are, its just silly to argue one being better than the other when they're both needed. mind you there are WAY more welders than philosophers. the additional debt you speak of is the problem of the system in place, not a problem of people choosing careers that require more school. we need doctors, and lawyers, and judges, and journalists, and teachers, and welders. these are just some of the jobs a person with a philosophy degree usually go on to do."excluding welding lol thats probably more rare."

on average he may be wrong drray23 Nov 2015 #1
Unionized welders can make good money persuadable Nov 2015 #36
An interesting "aside" to your specialty welder argument.... Plucketeer Nov 2015 #49
Philosophy students also have some of the highest MCAT scores exboyfil Nov 2015 #2
I don't know about the MCAT. potone Nov 2015 #12
Probably a different study exboyfil Nov 2015 #13
i disagree with him about the minimum wage, DesertFlower Nov 2015 #3
Unfortunately, teaching trades in high schools TexasBushwhacker Nov 2015 #54
Stupid statement JenniferJuniper Nov 2015 #4
you missed the point. not everyone DesertFlower Nov 2015 #5
No, I didn't JenniferJuniper Nov 2015 #7
of course i agree about the minimum wage. DesertFlower Nov 2015 #11
and someone needs to wash dishes and clean hotel rooms JenniferJuniper Nov 2015 #14
Welders make about $32 B. Philosophers make $1.6 B. immoderate Nov 2015 #6
A philosopher, a welder and Rubio walk into a bar... kairos12 Nov 2015 #8
:-) Bigredhunk Nov 2015 #25
Well done underpants Nov 2015 #32
What are you..... PosterChild Nov 2015 #34
Nice. (nt) Paladin Nov 2015 #40
Could be true in some ways forsaken mortal Nov 2015 #9
Talk to a welder at lunch Yupster Nov 2015 #62
Narco Rubio probably knew that well ahead of time. forest444 Nov 2015 #10
I don't like using the wrong doing exboyfil Nov 2015 #15
Being a racist is not illegal. Darb Nov 2015 #37
Narco Rubio. LOL. Thanks. kairos12 Nov 2015 #38
#Philosophers4Rubio so appreciate someone finally standing up for them L. Coyote Nov 2015 #16
I would say that "philosophy professor" and "philosopher" are different jobs Recursion Nov 2015 #17
But what demand is there for a professional ethicist? christx30 Nov 2015 #58
No one thinks Rubio is smart or honest, do they? nt valerief Nov 2015 #18
Sly comes to mind. Downwinder Nov 2015 #21
Welding can be difficult, demanding and dangerous work. cheapdate Nov 2015 #19
Why can't someone with a philosophy degree.......... mrmpa Nov 2015 #20
If people flood into welding daleo Nov 2015 #22
Speaking as a welder, some of us double as philosophers in our free time. JoeyT Nov 2015 #23
I was going to say that's really low wage bracket for welders underpants Nov 2015 #33
A good ASME Section IX welder cand easily make Kilgore Nov 2015 #44
Not if the welder is a robot. yellowcanine Nov 2015 #24
^^ this ^^ Myrina Nov 2015 #45
In the same topic they tried to say we can't pay people more because "replaced by robots" thats why! phantom power Nov 2015 #50
Nice fact check. PatrickforO Nov 2015 #26
absolutely. in addition, trade jobs restorefreedom Nov 2015 #60
All jobs matter Puppyjive Nov 2015 #27
lol. Carly Fiorino and Carl Icahn were philosophy majors ErikJ Nov 2015 #28
His comparison may be wrong, but I highly recomment vocational training. napi21 Nov 2015 #29
I agree 100% and congrats to your son wordpix Nov 2015 #52
muhahahahhahaha trillion Nov 2015 #30
I know many people who were fully qualified welders. Most of them drive trucks for a living. CBGLuthier Nov 2015 #31
Tell them to move here Kilgore Nov 2015 #43
Mostwelding is now done through automation. napi21 Nov 2015 #59
Not only that, but philosophers.... PosterChild Nov 2015 #35
Trade School Woodwizard Nov 2015 #39
I would disagree with CBS on one point. Chan790 Nov 2015 #41
In my world, Rubio is right Kilgore Nov 2015 #42
I agree but I'd also have h.s. trade courses for those who want/need them wordpix Nov 2015 #53
An opportunity for a cheap shot Jimbo S Nov 2015 #46
exactly - facts and numbers don't matter one bit 0rganism Nov 2015 #47
I used to watch American Chopper and this reminded me of an episode Calista241 Nov 2015 #48
I've taught hs seniors who read/write/do math on low elem. level ---read on wordpix Nov 2015 #51
538: "Philosophers Don’t Get Much Respect, But Their Earnings Don’t Suck" Attorney in Texas Nov 2015 #55
That Mean for Welders Is Suspiciously Low ProfessorGAC Nov 2015 #56
Rubio reinforced-Republicans will NOT raise the $7.25 minimum wage. Sucks for American workers. Sunlei Nov 2015 #57
its not a fair comparison but i tend to think rubio is on to something restorefreedom Nov 2015 #61
its a pointless comparison when his point was to say a non living min wage isn't the problem markishilaurelius Nov 2015 #63
rubio definitely wants to keep the serfs in their place restorefreedom Nov 2015 #64
i believe that he believes it when he says it. and tyvm for the welcome :) markishilaurelius Nov 2015 #65
:) the anti min wage folks are pretty dug in for sure restorefreedom Nov 2015 #66
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