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In reply to the discussion: There is only one argument in support of Franken [View all]ollie10
(2,091 posts)1) Yes, the accusations are not credible.
The two non-anonymous accusations are shot full of holes.
Then there are the anonymous ones which may or may not be women....may or may not be democrats, aides, etc.....Roger Stone himself could be one of these anonymous accusers!!! There is simply NO credibility to anonymous accusations.
2) Beyond even that, even if you assume all the accusations are accurate, what he is accused of is not sexual assault. Goofy, yes. Rude, yes. Embarrassing, yes. But what needs to be understood is that not all untoward behavior towards a woman rises to the level of sexual assault, harrassment, etc. Franken's alleged behavior is a far cry from that.
3) This has all the trappings of a set-up planned by the right wing hate machine. The two non-anonymous "victims" are Trumpers. And, of course, if you were waging a hit job on a US Senator you would get additional women to "come forward".....may be hard to get genuine ones, so just trot out some anonymous "victims" who may or may not even be women.....
4) This entire thing was going to go to the Senate investigation. Franken was all in on that from day one. The lynch mob is preventing us from investigating the entire truth.
5) Isn't it interesting that the first accuser did not think it a good idea to have a Senate investigation? Why would she fear this?
6) The voters of Minnesota, both D and R, are having their votes taken away from them. They elected Franken. If the Senate investigation finds real dirt...then we should follow the process and remove Franken from office if he is indeed guilty of harrassment.
But this "kangaroo court" trying to force Franken to resign on what could be trumped up charges.....disenfranchises millions of Minnesota voters
7) due process is under attack here. What reason is there to prevent the Senate investigation from doing its job?
8) There is a danger her to women. If it looks like men are getting railroaded for political motivations and lynched when they did minor things......this is going to have a negative impact on society. Hiring? If the job is between a male and a female applicant who are both in the running I predict a lot of women are going to be passed by for fear they may be more likely to raise a sexual harrassment suit in the future. Is that fair, or just, or right? No. Of course not. But do you you really believe this won't happen?