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76. Being in Colorado, where were all those CCW holders? n/t

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Sat Jul 21, 2012, 11:54 AM

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In NJ, James Holmes likely would have been caught before committing his massacre [View all] brentspeak Jul 2012 OP

100% correct malaise Jul 2012 #1

What information about this guy is surfacing that would have prevented this? Daniel537 Jul 2012 #2

His mom has expressed brentspeak Jul 2012 #3

Well she said they "have the right person" Daniel537 Jul 2012 #4

Or did it mean "yes you have the right person I am his mother" n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2012 #5

Or did it mean: DocMac Jul 2012 #53

It didn't, it was misinterpreted... PoliticAverse Jul 2012 #149

After the fact, your point is moot. Tejas Jul 2012 #51

Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness yellerpup Jul 2012 #25

Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness AlbertCat Jul 2012 #32

I'm with you, AlbertCat. yellerpup Jul 2012 #33

2nd Amendment trumps emotional cliches. Tejas Jul 2012 #52

If we ever get enough money to buy the Supreme Court back yellerpup Jul 2012 #57

Stanford, is that you? Tejas Jul 2012 #88

Not much of a constitutional professor, are you? Daniel537 Jul 2012 #89

No. Is that what you are? yellerpup Jul 2012 #93

Not legally accurate 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #129

Hang onto that. yellerpup Jul 2012 #134

What "right" 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #136

I'm not upset. yellerpup Jul 2012 #140

You went off on some nonsense about the "right" to pollute water 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #144

I said nothing about the "right" to pollute water. yellerpup Jul 2012 #147

He didn't need the hand guns. n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2012 #6

Even in a perfect society, we must be able to filter out the potentially harmful ones. Gregorian Jul 2012 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author HangOnKids Jul 2012 #56

That assumes that he obtained the guns legally. WillowTree Jul 2012 #8

No need to assume anything. LisaL Jul 2012 #10

Sounds like NJ has a good plan. freshwest Jul 2012 #9

How would you like the NJ approach applied to your right to vote? ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #11

I refered to the OP's take on the matter. It has nothing to do with voting rights. freshwest Jul 2012 #13

Voting is not analogous to possessing a potentially deadly weapon. Chorophyll Jul 2012 #22

Fortunately the courts are not taking such a cavalier attitude towards our constitutional rights ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #37

I'm tired of innocent people being gunned down because of your belief that Chorophyll Jul 2012 #40

an occasional horrific massacre is just the price of freedom then DBoon Jul 2012 #43

Fortunately, courts can be changed and rights for others can be secured by them. CTyankee Jul 2012 #107

This analogy is absurd. 2ndAmForComputers Jul 2012 #117

Should the Chief of Police be judge and jury? obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #60

I'm sorry you had a bad experience. But checking out mental health should be an ohjective criteria. freshwest Jul 2012 #71

I didn't have a bad experience obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #72

The OP didn describe a state with what you term as subjective gun laws. What you describe is not freshwest Jul 2012 #75

Our police chief has saved countless lives including one suicide that I know of. Walk away Jul 2012 #77

Examples of NJ law enforcement prejudicely denying a gun permit? brentspeak Jul 2012 #146

For a variety of reasons it wouldn't have mattered in this case 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #130

maybe not hollysmom Jul 2012 #12

I would go further and mandate an extensive mental health exam. Comrade_McKenzie Jul 2012 #14

That the potential firearm owner pays for himself. jonthebru Jul 2012 #30

+1,000,000 (n/t) klook Jul 2012 #34

Excellent point. nt Comrade_McKenzie Jul 2012 #39

Would you agree to the same to be allowed to exercise other rights, such as voting? ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #70

If you plan on voting with a gun...yes:-) Walk away Jul 2012 #81

I was speaking of basic 2nd Amendment (ownership) ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #102

Those kinds of subjective tests have historically been used 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #131

And THAT is the way it should be nation wide. UnrepentantLiberal Jul 2012 #15

The ant-gun crowd is just as obstinate and extreme. HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #29

They're hollering to ban all guns. AlbertCat Jul 2012 #35

Some here on DU for example ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #38

"Some" UnrepentantLiberal Jul 2012 #44

Yes, "some" indicating a undefinitized quantity ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #69

There is half a dozen threads right here on DU. HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #47

There is half a dozen threads right here on DU. AlbertCat Jul 2012 #135

Bullshit. UnrepentantLiberal Jul 2012 #42

Not true. HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #48

It's too late. UnrepentantLiberal Jul 2012 #49

"All gun advocates oppose regulating access to guns" obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #61

Absolutely. HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #120

Ant crowd uh. The ant crowd. DainBramaged Jul 2012 #74

Can you provide the evidence that he didn't vote for Obama? Marengo Jul 2012 #82

Of course he cant. HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #91

Just like you gunnies DainBramaged Jul 2012 #95

Good luck taking guns I dont own. HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #100

Why not answer the question DainBramaged Jul 2012 #94

In other words, you can't provide evidence for your assertion. Marengo Jul 2012 #109

Fuck my creditability, I don't give a shit, credibility is for Repukes to defend DainBramaged Jul 2012 #114

LOL! It's rare to see someone willing compromise their own credibility... Marengo Jul 2012 #124

Merry Christmas DainBramaged Jul 2012 #126

And Bon Voyage to your Integrity! Marengo Jul 2012 #128

"Fuck my creditability(sic), I don't give a shit, ..." oldhippie Jul 2012 #132

You saw me not vote for Obama? HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #90

Answer the question then instead of deflecting DainBramaged Jul 2012 #96

Why should I reply to your demand? HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #97

I've voted straight Democratic ticket since I turned 18 over 4 decades ago, and I voted for DainBramaged Jul 2012 #98

Its too bad there's no rolleyes smilie... HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #105

.. . taterguy Jul 2012 #119

Who is this "most of you" you are referring to? Marengo Jul 2012 #110

You didn't ask a question, you issued a declaration. Marengo Jul 2012 #111

Those don't seem like unreasonable checks to me. nt gateley Jul 2012 #16

Incorrect. JeepJK556 Jul 2012 #17

If you are a liberal, you might not get a gun permit obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #62

Holmes didn't have a criminal record the way Zimmerman did. Major Hogwash Jul 2012 #18

Should we have test for voting, too? Atypical Liberal Jul 2012 #19

"Constitutionally enumerated individual right" beac Jul 2012 #26

+1 yellerpup Jul 2012 #36

. Tejas Jul 2012 #54

What a ridiculous and pathetic argument. beac Jul 2012 #66

So instead of a canned kindergarten reply, offer something of substance. Tejas Jul 2012 #83

How about you offer up something that isn't rehashed and fallacy filled cliche first. cleanhippie Jul 2012 #118

Car ownership is not an enumerated right in the constitution ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #123

Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #55

Wow, you honored me with TWO pathetic responses? beac Jul 2012 #67

Your OP had multiple fuckups in it, best addressed in kind. Tejas Jul 2012 #84

And yet, the only argument you seem to be able to come up with, beac Jul 2012 #104

"spamming every shooting thread on DU" - oh, another stalker! Tejas Jul 2012 #106

Wow. beac Jul 2012 #148

The individual right was simply recognized in 2008. Atypical Liberal Jul 2012 #63

And you don't think a "well-regulated militia" beac Jul 2012 #65

+1 (nt) OmahaBlueDog Jul 2012 #27

You mean he would have just bought one illegally instead? n/t krispos42 Jul 2012 #20

NY too with that kind of check evilhime Jul 2012 #21

So, would...... ethereal1 Jul 2012 #23

Oh, well in that case let's have a free-for-all. Chorophyll Jul 2012 #41

Do you think individuals should be allowed to buy nukes? sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #101

You know what is strange. I live in gun-nuttery country. tsuki Jul 2012 #24

Exactly! HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #28

No they're not. UnrepentantLiberal Jul 2012 #45

I have no problem with gun ownership mountain grammy Jul 2012 #31

Exactly. UnrepentantLiberal Jul 2012 #46

Replace the skeleton stock with a wooden one... HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #50

Welcome to DU mountain grammy malaise Jul 2012 #59

All pistols are semi automatics obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #64

Bullshit. jp11 Jul 2012 #58

Wow, looks like you support the selling of death without question. What do the nuts say DainBramaged Jul 2012 #73

Stop blaming the gun for once. LAGC Jul 2012 #86

Wow you can make asinine accusations absent of evidence or facts jp11 Jul 2012 #108

Go rake some dirt DainBramaged Jul 2012 #115

Yankee state vs. the wild west. They'll always be different, I think. Honeycombe8 Jul 2012 #68

NJ, 4.2 murders per 100,000 people. Oregon 2.4, Washington 2.3 Bluenorthwest Jul 2012 #80

This was a post about gun control, not murder. Honeycombe8 Jul 2012 #122

Being in Colorado, where were all those CCW holders? n/t doc03 Jul 2012 #76

Unlike the shooter they were obeying the law. ramikin Jul 2012 #78

How about banning semi-auto weapons and limiting magazine capacity? Do you doc03 Jul 2012 #79

The perp was armed with a rifle. LAGC Jul 2012 #87

I was somewhat surprised that there was not an off duty or retired LEO in the crowd ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #103

Banning semi-autos would be a no brainer in a civilized doc03 Jul 2012 #112

Other countries, other cultures do things differently ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #116

Why not also ban all autos except the ModelT? HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #121

Following the law: the movie theater forbids even CCW holders to carry on their property 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #133

I'm sure people are saying the same thing if it happened in Arizona rucky Jul 2012 #85

It did. Gabby Gifford. HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #92

Someone who was determined would still buy the weapons, even MineralMan Jul 2012 #99

I live in NJ as a former law enforcement Officer it's hard bigdarryl Jul 2012 #113

I don't think he would have needed an actual carry permit freethought Jul 2012 #143

brentspeak, you are assuming that Holmes would have obeyed NJ's laws slackmaster Jul 2012 #125

"Given that he (Holmes) didn't obey Colorado's laws" brentspeak Jul 2012 #137

He broke laws by taking loaded weapons into a movie theater and shooting a bunch of people slackmaster Jul 2012 #138

Why didn't he buy his guns illegally? brentspeak Jul 2012 #139

Because he didn't have to, but I'm quite sure that he would have. slackmaster Jul 2012 #141

"Because he didn't have to" brentspeak Jul 2012 #145

Didn't he use a rifle? 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #127

I think that is higly doubtful freethought Jul 2012 #142