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In reply to the discussion: Joy Reid goes below the belt, Jane Sanders responds [View all]Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)11. Joy, Twitrrr is not well suited to making a delicate and highly speculative point. An apology?
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Not just a red herring but an OFFENSIVE red herring. I think a review of the TOS is in order.
George II
Nov 2017
#89
You realize that you're on DEMOCRATIC Underground, and our last Presidential nominee was....
George II
Nov 2017
#87
I have no idea what you mean. I thought this was about Sen. Sanders who is an
Demsrule86
Nov 2017
#200
I saw him kind of push his wife away on the video ;I I thought it was not nice.He is not a Democrat.
Demsrule86
Nov 2017
#261
It's either about the offense of resources or the defense of tin-gods and sacred cows.
LanternWaste
Nov 2017
#299
She wasn't "attacking" him, she was commenting on his attitude. And he's no longer a "contender".
George II
Nov 2017
#288
You're right... Hillary is beside the point. Still think Joy was being wholly unfair to Bernie.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Nov 2017
#238
Back in 2008, she referred to the "erratic gyrations of Hurricane Hillary"...
Dr. Strange
Dec 2017
#347
this whole thread is a shit show..are you going to post this to everyone else you don't agree with?
BoneyardDem
Nov 2017
#328
You were quick to claim my post was rehashing the Primaries....when it was all about Joy
BoneyardDem
Nov 2017
#337
There was a time when you didn't need to claim to be one, it was just assumed
PatsFan87
Nov 2017
#39
She is not a reporter...and Cronkite was certainly not unbiased...his reports helped
Demsrule86
Nov 2017
#59
Everyone has a bias. There is no way Cronkite and others of that time were unbiased...
Demsrule86
Nov 2017
#155
Exactly, just be honest...tell people where you are coming from...and let them decide.
Demsrule86
Nov 2017
#160
If she was a reporter you'd be correct, but she's not a reporter. She doesn't recite news or...
George II
Nov 2017
#108
I don't view her as a reporter but rather a commentator like when she started appearing on MSNBC
eleny
Nov 2017
#61
It has always been BS...and Cronkite and other went way beyond the 'fact' in their coverage of
Demsrule86
Nov 2017
#161
Joy is on point. See post 21 on this thread of Sanders ordering his wife to move.
brush
Nov 2017
#92
Joy Reid is not a reporter, she's a political talk show host, and probably among the top...
George II
Nov 2017
#98
As a pundit, Joy is allowed to be biased... and also WRONG, as she clearly is in this case.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Nov 2017
#239
I know some here rush to Sen. Sander's defense as they expect him to run in 20 and he may...
Demsrule86
Nov 2017
#202
Many folks feel that way...and the party took a hit too...which is why Sen. Sanders should not
Demsrule86
Nov 2017
#204
His supporters will either vote for us or not...there is not much we can do.
Demsrule86
Dec 2017
#350
I don't think that's correct, she was a Sanders supporter up until the convention.
George II
Nov 2017
#284
I think he was worried that he might accidentally hit her as he gestured while speaking. nt
tblue37
Nov 2017
#24
That was my thinking as well. He famously flails his arms while giving speeches.
PatsFan87
Nov 2017
#45
Mind reading from brief video clips only, even if of poor quality or sound, is an internet passion
Fred Sanders
Nov 2017
#57
It does to me...this is one of the reasons I am not a Sanders supporter for the presidency in 20.
Demsrule86
Nov 2017
#206
Looks like she was uncertain were to go and he said. "Don't stand there".
The Wielding Truth
Nov 2017
#167
That is demonstrably untrue. Sanders has a life longrecord on supporting womens rights and fighting
CentralMass
Nov 2017
#78
He was quoted, so no. It's true. He fucked up, big time. Women knew they weren't a priority long
bettyellen
Nov 2017
#142
Yes. I respect his work and from his history I see nothing against women.
The Wielding Truth
Nov 2017
#173
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I have a different opinion. Do you understand a large
Demsrule86
Nov 2017
#207
He has been fighting his whole life for the disadvantaged. Look at his
The Wielding Truth
Nov 2017
#170
Umm .Certainly Not the Poorest of Sierra Blanca Texas. He fought against them with a House bill!
Wwcd
Nov 2017
#189
Well...it is not going well is it? Grad students are targeted by Trump's tax bill...
Demsrule86
Nov 2017
#211
She has a right to her opinion. This is a mild comment...I wonder if Ms. Sanders has any idea how
Demsrule86
Nov 2017
#34
More than having a right to have an opinion, she is the EXPERT on her relationship with Bernie!
karynnj
Nov 2017
#49
I think Sen.Sanders plans to run in 20...once you get the presidential fever, it is hard to break.
Demsrule86
Nov 2017
#64
Agreed. And that goes for Biden too. But I have to ask: can you imagine if Hillary was planning
StevieM
Nov 2017
#69
It is different for women...Hillary was treated unlike any candidate in history during the primary
Demsrule86
Nov 2017
#73
Even now I feel a white hot rage when I think about it...no man would ever have been treated or
Demsrule86
Nov 2017
#162
Ugggh, the comments would be awful and a woman of 78 would, on average, be healthier than a man nt
karynnj
Nov 2017
#115
Yep. Women live longer in general...I can imagine the the nasty remarks that would follow she would
Demsrule86
Nov 2017
#165
What about abortion rights? What about birth control? We have a situation where
Demsrule86
Nov 2017
#265
This is true. we take three steps forward and one step backwords...my Mother did not have her own
Demsrule86
Nov 2017
#298
I really did have a rough few years...mostly because I made really bad choices.
Demsrule86
Dec 2017
#351
On Inauguration Day in 2021: Biden would be 78; Sander 79; Warren 71; Trump 74 and Hillary 73
Justice
Nov 2017
#233
I don't have to imagine...I can read up on 16 where she was treated worse than any candidate in
Demsrule86
Nov 2017
#212
No, presidential fever...It is an old term. You have to try again as this taste of presidential
Demsrule86
Dec 2017
#352
Also, I don't believe there is much demand for Sen. Sanders to run... he makes that decision...
Demsrule86
Dec 2017
#353
To be fair to Sanders--who I am not a fan of--I think his endorsement, if he doesn't run himself,
StevieM
Nov 2017
#67
Agreed. And Steyer is also a great environmentalist. I think he may surprise people. (eom)
StevieM
Nov 2017
#83
We definitely have to meet up here in early 2019 when the candidates are entering the race.
StevieM
Nov 2017
#119
I am assuming that some of the names I listed may not run. But all of them seem reasonably likely
StevieM
Nov 2017
#146
I wish I could agree with you, but I don't. His comments on planned parenthood and
Demsrule86
Nov 2017
#216
They both are within their rights...and those who support Sanders should prepare for an onslaught of
Demsrule86
Nov 2017
#213
Agreed! I witnessed Bernie treating his wife rudely a couple of times at campaign events. Is
MojoWrkn
Nov 2017
#267
Good for you Jane. Sometimes the pundits start to feel their oats, not good...n/t
monmouth4
Nov 2017
#3
Please provide a credible link to a DOJ investigation of that sort or of Russian banks.
karynnj
Nov 2017
#27
I'm not sure of the Russian bank part of this, but it's common knowledge that the FBI....
George II
Nov 2017
#65
Like I said, I wasn't sure of the Russian part of it, but there definitely is an investigation....
George II
Nov 2017
#128
Okay, so the standard now is that politicians are responsible for their spouses actions?
InAbLuEsTaTe
Nov 2017
#237
He famously told his wife not to stand next to him on stage while gently pushing her away.
MrsCoffee
Nov 2017
#7
Being able to read minds must be nice. Everyone has their quirks after decades of close marriage.
Fred Sanders
Nov 2017
#14
Yes because telling his wife not to stand next to him during a speech where he famously
PatsFan87
Nov 2017
#23
Joy, Twitrrr is not well suited to making a delicate and highly speculative point. An apology?
Fred Sanders
Nov 2017
#11
I include people who repeatedly trash the Democratic party in that "real enemy" group.
Squinch
Nov 2017
#80
I just checked the last 30 days of his twitter feed. Nothing about Dems or Hillary.
progressoid
Nov 2017
#314
It would be awesone if he fnally realized critisizing Dems and Hillary was damaging to Democrats.
BoneyardDem
Nov 2017
#319
It's also a sign of those with a high I.Q. and socially awkward. Just visit IBM's Poughkeepsie Labs.
TheBlackAdder
Nov 2017
#132
Well said!! There are plenty of legitimate things one can pick on with ANY politician on our side...
InAbLuEsTaTe
Nov 2017
#242
That popinjay says whatever makes her the most clicks and consultant money.
Hassin Bin Sober
Nov 2017
#168
Unsure what you're sayin here-was it not a good thing Joy supported Hillary in the general election
InAbLuEsTaTe
Nov 2017
#240
Yeah I am sure Bernie Fans all feel that way..so? Change the channel...it doesn't make a bit of
Demsrule86
Nov 2017
#37
I has NOTHING to do with Bernie for me. It's the way she responds to some people
MelissaB
Nov 2017
#41
I said the same thing about how he treated his wife...why is that wrong? And one
Demsrule86
Nov 2017
#54
I agree. TV host greatness does not come automatically with witty or insightful brevity.
Fred Sanders
Nov 2017
#55
Well, that was an out-of-character tweet...inappropriate and disappointing.
Miles Archer
Nov 2017
#38
Needless to say I agree with Joy on most issues, and I agree with her on this one as well. nt
Tarheel_Dem
Nov 2017
#66
Reid has a right to her opinions, but her opinions are important because of her celebrity.
guillaumeb
Nov 2017
#68
There is video and written information on Bernie that proves Joy's point. nt
Blue_true
Nov 2017
#113
Fired? Over-reacting much? Where do you get the idea she's NOT doing her job as a Pundit?
BoneyardDem
Nov 2017
#245
Jane GETS to be the authority on this. Joy Reid nor any DUer has that privilege. End of Discussion.
phleshdef
Nov 2017
#191
No, the fact that his wife is the authority on how her husband treats her makes it so
phleshdef
Nov 2017
#225
Oh dear, you're confused. You think we can't trust what we see and hear and should instead rely on a
bettyellen
Nov 2017
#226
Since Jane is putting herself in the public arena, I have some questions for her:
yardwork
Nov 2017
#199
Yep, I remember him pushing past I think it was Collins trying to get to McCain when he came
seaglass
Nov 2017
#220
I always thought Jane was a little too controlling of Bernie. The larger point is that
Justice
Nov 2017
#235
Joy works for Comcast-one of the big media conglomerates in the US. It's #31 on the
jalan48
Nov 2017
#241
Good luck with your support of Comcast. I'm sure they will do the right thing when
jalan48
Nov 2017
#251
Thanks again for emphasizing that "attacking the messenger" is the only defense you have...
NurseJackie
Nov 2017
#268
Media giant Comcast and it's political commentators leading the charge from the left. Resist!
jalan48
Nov 2017
#272
Did Joy Reid have honesty and integrity in 2008 when she called Hillary an insane racist bent on...
Hassin Bin Sober
Nov 2017
#269
Hillary supporeters likley didn't like it then, JUST like Bernie suporters don't like it now
BoneyardDem
Nov 2017
#273
Sadly if one criticizes one person, the other one immediately gets brought into the discussion.
George II
Nov 2017
#294
What stuns me are white people, assume they are white people, using a black persons concern with
Eliot Rosewater
Nov 2017
#297
I assume the post does not contain your own opinion since you use "excerpts"
BoneyardDem
Nov 2017
#312
So somewhere between 2008 (when those articles were written) and today, Joy Reid..
BoneyardDem
Nov 2017
#320
Well, I don't think that's quite right, she's done some incredible work in dubunking RW tall tales
BoneyardDem
Nov 2017
#326
Is there a link to Joy calling HRC "an insane racist bent on costing Obama the election"?
lapucelle
Dec 2017
#346
take a moment to read through the top 1/3rd of this thread for video and examples
BoneyardDem
Nov 2017
#270
Hillary said less than flattering things about women who accused her husband of affairs
ehrnst
Nov 2017
#277
ahhh. the not so clever comback from the person who refuses to do their own work
BoneyardDem
Dec 2017
#370