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Willie Pep

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15. Some of it is the good economy.

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 09:00 AM

Sep 2017

If the economy was not doing as well as it is people would not be as positive about Trump. Incumbent presidents usually get a boost from a good economy even if they are not responsible for it and I think that is the case with Trump. Obama deserves most of the credit for getting us through the Great Recession but a lot of people won't think of that given the prevalence of short-term memories.

Of course, as mentioned by others, there is also the fact that many of these people live in the right-wing bubble so Trump can do no wrong anyway. Trump also clearly knows how to play to his base with things like the border wall, going after DACA and pardoning Joe Arpaio. For a lot of people voting for Trump was about sticking it to groups of people that they don't like and not about policy.

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Trump still popular in MI,WI and PA [View all] helpisontheway Sep 2017 OP

Probably a point of contentious pride for some of them. Solly Mack Sep 2017 #1

I've seen this lordsummerisle Sep 2017 #10

pretty much nailed it.... dhill926 Sep 2017 #35

Once we stop replaying the 2016 election things will change BeyondGeography Sep 2017 #2

That's not true, 538 has him net negative in those states... he's just LESS negative than others uponit7771 Sep 2017 #3

Cool greeny2323 Sep 2017 #5

To not be in the amen corner wingers are stuck in, wingers SERIOUSLY don't look at any other uponit7771 Sep 2017 #6

Don Lemon is worth a watch on CNN, especially when Kornacki is gesticulating away... brush Sep 2017 #53

Seems they feel he speaks to them and we don't dembotoz Sep 2017 #4

The Obama recover did extend to those states and the rural areas to a large degree relative ... uponit7771 Sep 2017 #7

++Thanks for some real numbers here !! lunasun Sep 2017 #43

Yes he's a blithering MFM008 Sep 2017 #48

Wrong. Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #54

Racism combined with ignorance is destroying America. LonePirate Sep 2017 #8

Of course we want to win in those states, but it isn't true that we couldn't win without them. dawg Sep 2017 #9

I live in northern Illinois and agree . Let's look to NV, AZ, Tx, GA etc. lunasun Sep 2017 #47

Texas is not close to "there" yet awesomerwb1 Sep 2017 #49

Florida and NC both went for Obama in 2008. dawg Sep 2017 #50

You're right awesomerwb1 Sep 2017 #55

I have relatives in MI. They believe an alternate reality. yardwork Sep 2017 #11

Yikes. NT enough Sep 2017 #12

Yeah. This is what we're up against. yardwork Sep 2017 #17

"They're afraid of cities" Ohiya Sep 2017 #13

And, most of them lived in the suburbs of big cities for years. yardwork Sep 2017 #16

Has been for years underpants Sep 2017 #31

Years ago (early 2000s), in the local Scottsdale paper, there was a letter to the editor Coventina Sep 2017 #36

When I first moved here I lived in a suburb dsc Sep 2017 #44

Your well written post accurately describes a large segment of the electorate in PA as well. n/t John1956PA Sep 2017 #27

This is what we're up against. yardwork Sep 2017 #34

You have just illustrated the entire right wing insanity in this country workinclasszero Sep 2017 #37

It will literally destroy the country. yardwork Sep 2017 #38

It is on a daily basis workinclasszero Sep 2017 #39

Fake news blaming it all on the Democrats will be delivered to them. yardwork Sep 2017 #40

Undoubtedly workinclasszero Sep 2017 #42

Yep. Same here in AZ. kairos12 Sep 2017 #62

Let's test that proposition * DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 #14

Ah so not true that Donald still popular in PA, MI & WI Madam45for2923 Sep 2017 #18

I redid my whole post for accuracy. Please check it out now, Madam. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 #19

Woah those are not great numbers for Donald! Madam45for2923 Sep 2017 #20

Exactly, and outside of the Deep South and Mountain West those are his best numbers. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 #21

I think you mean MO dsc Sep 2017 #45

Some of it is the good economy. Willie Pep Sep 2017 #15

entire Republican party will vote for him again in 2020, if Ds can't manage to win 15 in midterms. Sunlei Sep 2017 #22

My friend's husband was just in Wisconsin for work and saw billboards phylny Sep 2017 #23

Wisconsin is owned by the Koch's and a few other Millionaires. Greybnk48 Sep 2017 #57

Spot on. snacker Sep 2017 #58

He wasn't and isn't "popular" in PA. His margin was small. WinkyDink Sep 2017 #24

Nor is he "popular" in the Midwest DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 #25

NO. He'd get destroyed in PA if election were rerun today sharedvalues Sep 2017 #26

Chumpy isn't popular. MoonRiver Sep 2017 #28

No one wants to admit they FUCKED UP badly......... Bengus81 Sep 2017 #29

Parts of western PA are close to worshiping him as a god Orrex Sep 2017 #30

I report. You decide. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 #32

No ..if the Democrats stop running against the fact that INdemo Sep 2017 #33

I was in Pittsburgh this weekend and Talk Radio there is disgusting moda253 Sep 2017 #41

Stop listening to right wing stations. Problem solved. MoonRiver Sep 2017 #46

Ignoring the problem won't make it go away. yardwork Sep 2017 #59

The counties surrounding Pittsburgh are right wing cestpools. Dawson Leery Sep 2017 #52

Mueller can't save us. We are going to have to save ourselves. Afromania Sep 2017 #51

I agree. yardwork Sep 2017 #60

No he isnt. Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #56

I'm not sure what poll it was, but MI doesn't trust him. catbyte Sep 2017 #61