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42. I Think If The Party

Mon Sep 18, 2017, 10:33 AM

Sep 2017

allows the farce of 2016 a repeat performance there will be hell to pay. Especially as they would be backing someone who's bound to lose.

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Sen. Gillibrand said Bernie when she was asked who was the leader of the Democratic Party [View all] berni_mccoy Sep 2017 OP

Funny thing is that it will probably be Sen. Gillibrand soon Renew Deal Sep 2017 #1

Maybe berni_mccoy Sep 2017 #3

Maybe so ... KPN Sep 2017 #48

im just not feeling that....maybe if youre a bernie supporter, but really.. samnsara Sep 2017 #2

he's not a Democrat, you say? ProfessorPlum Sep 2017 #7

Trust me, there are plenty of us who are aware of his non-party status. Paladin Sep 2017 #8

apologies if you were attempting to get the sarcasm ProfessorPlum Sep 2017 #11

Everyone should give a shit! beastie boy Sep 2017 #15

No Democrats are bound by the Democratic Party platform, either. (n/t) thesquanderer Sep 2017 #20

Will you accept "governed" instead of "bound"? beastie boy Sep 2017 #25

Semantics as to whether they govern "the party" or "the party members"... thesquanderer Sep 2017 #39

How can a party be governed by certain principles and the party members not? beastie boy Sep 2017 #115

Answering your question... thesquanderer Sep 2017 #123

Point well taken. Still... beastie boy Sep 2017 #136

So Debbie Wasserman Schultz now supports a "pathway to future legalization" on cannabis, then? Warren DeMontague Sep 2017 #148

Apparently she does! beastie boy Sep 2017 #149

Uh, correcting her prior votes to send sick people to prison for using medical marijuana Warren DeMontague Sep 2017 #150

Don't take it as me defending DWS in any way, beastie boy Sep 2017 #152

gradually getting the memo Warren DeMontague Sep 2017 #157

It's like calling Roger Goodell the leader of Major League Baseball. George II Sep 2017 #24

Good one MLAA Sep 2017 #100

Bernie and his supporters helped create the current platform. PatrickforO Sep 2017 #36

+1 mountain grammy Sep 2017 #38

Good for Bernie! But he appears to be governed only by the parts of the Platform he helped create. beastie boy Sep 2017 #43

Governed by only the parts he helped create? How so? KPN Sep 2017 #59

There were lots of issues he recommended literally "setting aside" ... funny how people forget that bettyellen Sep 2017 #89

+1 KPN Sep 2017 #57

What are the specific items in the platform he helped create that did not exist prior to his involve LanternWaste Sep 2017 #90

We put single payer BACK on the platform. It would not have been had it not been for us. PatrickforO Sep 2017 #114

Huh? KPN Sep 2017 #56

Please refer to Reply #25 beastie boy Sep 2017 #117

Let me reply that he has done nothing to make my life better. lunamagica Sep 2017 #94

I've been told he is not even American,, bahrbearian Sep 2017 #16

Well He Did Honeymoon In Russia Me. Sep 2017 #58

People give a shit that he's trying to determine Democratic party policy ehrnst Sep 2017 #17

Hey, I'm a registered Democrat for the past 45 years ... and I guess by this standard KPN Sep 2017 #60

In his roughly 30 years in Congress and the Senate, what specifically has he done.... George II Sep 2017 #23

Good question! This should be interesting... nt R B Garr Sep 2017 #40

Google it. KPN Sep 2017 #65

No thanks. Not going on a wild goose chase. George II Sep 2017 #79

We can also google how to create an operational deathstar. LanternWaste Sep 2017 #91

Is He? Me. Sep 2017 #41

Funny, but DarleenMB Sep 2017 #44

did you know that only one person can have an idea about healthcare at a time? ProfessorPlum Sep 2017 #64

Photo: Donkees Sep 2017 #67

LOL aidbo Sep 2017 #71

... beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #139

WOW, a 1993 picture of a Democrat who fought for health care for all Americans! R B Garr Sep 2017 #76

Well played! Nice picture of the former first lady and Bernie. beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #138

Standing right behind her. KPN Sep 2017 #70

Exactly! KPN Sep 2017 #55

You are never going to win this argument. pangaia Sep 2017 #19

Listen, theres Dems snort Sep 2017 #30

keep flogging that distinction without a difference ProfessorPlum Sep 2017 #61

His choice not to call himself a Dem, not sure why anyone calls him one. He's distanced himself for bettyellen Sep 2017 #87

As I said in an earlier post, Bernie is more of a Democrat than many of the Democrats. Bluepinky Sep 2017 #92

Is she running for president? Dem leaders must be Democrats. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #137

maybe he'll join the party now! JHan Sep 2017 #4

I think if he did join that the haters would still hate. Ligyron Sep 2017 #9

THAT is an interesting observation. pangaia Sep 2017 #21

He'll join right back up on when he wants to run for POTUS in 2020 ehrnst Sep 2017 #22

I could see them requiring Sanders to formally join before supporting him. Ligyron Sep 2017 #26

The party would be castigated for requiring Dem nominees to ehrnst Sep 2017 #51

Yep +++++ JHan Sep 2017 #35

I Think If The Party Me. Sep 2017 #42

Yep. (nt) ehrnst Sep 2017 #52

Wow, that's interesting that Nader's main concern is Bernie being asked if he's R B Garr Sep 2017 #47

the longer he takes, the more irritated they will be I think. JHan Sep 2017 #34

You know, when people walk around in a 24-7 perpetual state of maximum irritation Warren DeMontague Sep 2017 #143

Cause and effect Warren, cause and effect. JHan Sep 2017 #155

Naw, I'm not concerned. Warren DeMontague Sep 2017 #159

lol. okay. JHan Sep 2017 #162

It would depend why he did it Orrex Sep 2017 #50

Sanders has a valuable mail list, Warren not so much. delisen Sep 2017 #69

What exactly did she say? You say two things there without context. George II Sep 2017 #5

Yes, it was a direct question to her. berni_mccoy Sep 2017 #6

So you're saying that she was asked "who is the leader of the Democratic Party?", and she answered.. George II Sep 2017 #31

Yes. She went into his platform ideas and what he's doing on Healthcare. berni_mccoy Sep 2017 #88

Sorry, I'd have to see the video of that one. George II Sep 2017 #95

It's fair. I understand the mistrust berni_mccoy Sep 2017 #98

Updated. berni_mccoy Sep 2017 #111

lol. stonecutter357 Sep 2017 #10

Too bad he has never been a Democrat and never will be. PubliusEnigma Sep 2017 #12

people who keep bringing up this supposedly divisive point ProfessorPlum Sep 2017 #62

What's even more fascinating is people pretending that being R B Garr Sep 2017 #72

and Sanders generated a ton of interest in the Democratic party ProfessorPlum Sep 2017 #78

Wait, where is the win part?? R B Garr Sep 2017 #83

Bernie Sanders won the 2016 Presidential primary in New Hampshire. Bluepinky Sep 2017 #93

So no win, then. But a lot of people got to feel good, so there's that. R B Garr Sep 2017 #110

He did have a win, the presidential primary in NH. Bluepinky Sep 2017 #116

So, no win. If the only standard is that he won your home state, then he R B Garr Sep 2017 #131

Actually, he had 22 wins, as he won the primaries in 22 states. Bluepinky Sep 2017 #140

So, no win. I love how the goalposts are always moved, but none of them R B Garr Sep 2017 #141

It depends on what you call a win. Bluepinky Sep 2017 #153

So, no win. We all saw who advanced to the Presidential campaign. I don't R B Garr Sep 2017 #156

You were wrong, you said Bernie Sanders didn't have a win, and that is flat out wrong. Bluepinky Sep 2017 #160

Reality is reality, so no need to go over the facts we all saw play out over 2 years. R B Garr Sep 2017 #161

He has the highest approval rating maybe IronLionZion Sep 2017 #13

Pelosi is getting work done. That is leadership. (nt) ehrnst Sep 2017 #18

This should be a fun thread riderinthestorm Sep 2017 #14

not really. I think many will spend a little less time here every day grantcart Sep 2017 #46

I agree caraher Sep 2017 #53

It already is! KPN Sep 2017 #73

He can have it leftofcool Sep 2017 #27

A real populist would run well against the #FakePopulist in the White House bucolic_frolic Sep 2017 #28

Post removed Post removed Sep 2017 #29

How long will we have a 2 party system? Not Ruth Sep 2017 #33

Depends on how 2018 and 2020 go. KPN Sep 2017 #75

He is definitely the leader of the Independents Not Ruth Sep 2017 #32

The progessive independents, not the rest of them SharonClark Sep 2017 #37

One might think that as a white male, he could gather the rest with more ease Not Ruth Sep 2017 #49

bernie is not a democrat. and fortunately the minority doesn't get the last word. Lil Missy Sep 2017 #45

WHAT? He's not a Democrat!????111111 ProfessorPlum Sep 2017 #66

Why should I consider someone leftynyc Sep 2017 #54

this post helps Russia ProfessorPlum Sep 2017 #63

... LexVegas Sep 2017 #68

Yawwwwwnnnnnnn leftynyc Sep 2017 #85

You should ask... tonedevil Sep 2017 #97

I already have leftynyc Sep 2017 #103

What did she... tonedevil Sep 2017 #104

Sent an email leftynyc Sep 2017 #106

I'm interested... tonedevil Sep 2017 #108

I don't hate Gillibrand leftynyc Sep 2017 #118

the argument could be made that the Democratic party used Sanders, as well ProfessorPlum Sep 2017 #99

Bullshit leftynyc Sep 2017 #105

I respectfully disagree ProfessorPlum Sep 2017 #109

Spare me the drama leftynyc Sep 2017 #120

this post helps Russia ProfessorPlum Sep 2017 #122

How many times are leftynyc Sep 2017 #124

how many times are people going to post things that help Russia? ProfessorPlum Sep 2017 #125

He votes and caucuses with the Democratic party so yes they use and benefit from him. Autumn Sep 2017 #121

Where's the clip or quote? BainsBane Sep 2017 #74

I've asked a couple of times about what she specifically was asked and her answer. George II Sep 2017 #80

Very little on Twitter about it as well BannonsLiver Sep 2017 #81

I'll post an update once one is available. berni_mccoy Sep 2017 #86

Gillibrand is right. KPN Sep 2017 #77

What you do before running for the Presidency Bad Thoughts Sep 2017 #82

Swoon... Weekend Warrior Sep 2017 #84

B Sanders has a mailing list and mailing lists delisen Sep 2017 #96

I have to suspect some selective hearing. Orsino Sep 2017 #101

I'm sorry. I am unable to find video or transcript. berni_mccoy Sep 2017 #102

What were her exact words? Pugster Sep 2017 #107

Updated to include video. berni_mccoy Sep 2017 #112

OK but she doesn't speak for me. haveahart Sep 2017 #113

I like Gillibrand. ananda Sep 2017 #119

Thanks for posting the video! beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #126

Thanks for the video, it puts it all into perspective. With all due respect..... George II Sep 2017 #127

We'll have to disagree. berni_mccoy Sep 2017 #130

Actually much of what he's getting credit for in the platform was already in it.... George II Sep 2017 #132

That's another debate entirely and for the sake of moving forward berni_mccoy Sep 2017 #134

I guess the debate is about what she actually said, she didn't single out Sanders in her comments... George II Sep 2017 #135

Round and round we go, this is why this shit never ends. berni_mccoy Sep 2017 #142

You don't agree that your subject line is misleading? George II Sep 2017 #144

I stand by what I posted. berni_mccoy Sep 2017 #145

Then I'll echo your statement "Round and round we go, this is why this shit never ends." George II Sep 2017 #146

Thank you. The OP makes it sound like a definitive statement. SaschaHM Sep 2017 #133

"I think that's how they're percieved.... but you won't really have a national leader Democrat until SaschaHM Sep 2017 #128

He runs the whole show and isn't even a party member? Blue_Tires Sep 2017 #129

I BET SHE LIKES SUSAN SARANDON MOVIES TOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! Warren DeMontague Sep 2017 #147

It's a little early in the afternoon, but rules are rules. tonedevil Sep 2017 #151

Lol berni_mccoy Sep 2017 #154

L'Chiam! Warren DeMontague Sep 2017 #158

I like her. I think she is one of the ones who could unite the party mvd Sep 2017 #163