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JCanete

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115. When he runs he says he is a democrat, and enough of us are happy to invite him to run in our party.

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 03:01 AM

Jul 2017

The DNC Leadership needs to keep in mind what the DNC membership wants, even if its only half of us, or 40 percent of the party. I'd wager though, that the number okay with him running is higher than the number that would vote for him, so I wouldn't be surprised if the majority is entirely okay with him running on the D ticket.

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FiveThirtyEight Chat: Is Bernie Sanders Really The Democratic Front-Runner? [View all] Purveyor Jul 2017 OP

Nate's mistake throughout that interview is assuming that Hillary's millions of 2016 voters pnwmom Jul 2017 #1

Interesting statement. If he were to achieve the nomination... Barack_America Jul 2017 #14

Honestly, I vote for the candidate with the :"D" next to their name, but I can't speak for others. Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #17

That wasn't the question. The question was who would be the favorite/front runner for the pnwmom Jul 2017 #18

He wasn't high on their list in 2016 and came close. Barack_America Jul 2017 #19

He didn't come close. He lost by 4 million votes. And there's no reason to believe pnwmom Jul 2017 #21

You're assuming the Democratic voter base is stable? Barack_America Jul 2017 #22

I don't think it's likely Independent voices would have any more success "drowning out" pnwmom Jul 2017 #23

Bernie's apprentice- yes whoever that is has my vote. Bernie will be too old I think. MiltonBrown Jul 2017 #67

Considering Bernie's brother Larry is a very spry 82 years old Heaven Sent Jul 2017 #69

I don't want a president in his 80's...I have seen cognitive failure in weeks and sometimes Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #164

Absolutely, especially if Bernie runs for the Democratic ticket again, as I expect him to. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2017 #29

I don't think either can win a general in this environment. Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #37

Bernie only switched back to Independent to run for re-election in his Vermont Senate race... InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2017 #48

But he's not a Democrat. xmas74 Jul 2017 #63

CAUCUSES WITH DEMS 100% of the time. Heaven Sent Jul 2017 #70

He has withheld from the party his supporters database, which should be put in use right now pnwmom Jul 2017 #77

Bernie's list is his own, not the property of DNC Heaven Sent Jul 2017 #80

And courts have ruled that the party's nomination process is its own. His failure to share his list pnwmom Jul 2017 #89

I am not going to refight the primaries Heaven Sent Jul 2017 #90

Nate did NOT say that. LOL. Being the early front-runner tells us very little pnwmom Jul 2017 #91

"When someone fights for an important issue like health care"... musette_sf Jul 2017 #95

I agree, Bernie will be the nominee in 2020... we need to come together... InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2017 #111

When pigs fly...I will not support a non-Democrat in the primary. Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #136

Gee, what would have happened if the DNC didn't want to share musette_sf Jul 2017 #97

But he's not a Democrat musette_sf Jul 2017 #93

Nope don't agree...we need a Democratic president. Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #137

He is not a Democrat. Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #165

Still not a Democrat. xmas74 Jul 2017 #166

He could have remained a Democrat for his run...so I don't buy it. He is not a loyal Democrat Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #135

+ 1 musette_sf Jul 2017 #104

IMO he won't be allowed to run as a Democrat again. brush Jul 2017 #34

Who's gonna not allow him? Warren DeMontague Jul 2017 #87

Weren't you around in 2015? He asked the DNC to be put on ballots in the primaries. brush Jul 2017 #102

+1 musette_sf Jul 2017 #107

So have you contacted Tom Perez? Warren DeMontague Jul 2017 #108

Agreed on those issues. Fresh blood needed. But why ask me if I've contacted Perez? brush Jul 2017 #109

Yeah, me too. Warren DeMontague Jul 2017 #118

Ok, we're on the same page. brush Jul 2017 #141

I couldn't agree more - we need some fresh faces. Chemisse Jul 2017 #130

He is a Democratic Socialist and has been for decades Samantha Jul 2017 #113

He can run as an independent but not as a Democrat...time to move on past the 2016 primary. Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #120

I myself don't want Hillary, Bernie, or Joe to run next time, personally. Warren DeMontague Jul 2017 #126

He can't say he is a Democrat because he is not...he has an 'I' next to his name...and for Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #133

Easy answer. We all know he's not a Democrat. He can try the converting trick again... brush Jul 2017 #144

Yes... but "people won't support him this time" isn't the same thing as Warren DeMontague Jul 2017 #153

Huh? Since he's not a Democrat, he wil still have to get permission to run as Democrat. brush Jul 2017 #155

So how'd that work last time? Warren DeMontague Jul 2017 #156

We already went through this. He had to get approved by the DNC. Not likely to happen again... brush Jul 2017 #157

Where is your evidence that the DNC at the national level had to "allow" him to run? Warren DeMontague Jul 2017 #158

You apparently weren't alive during the last campaign. That he asked to run as a Dem was... brush Jul 2017 #160

Who did he "ask", specifically? Warren DeMontague Jul 2017 #161

I'm bored with this. If you weren't paying attention during 2015-16 that's on you. brush Jul 2017 #162

Yeah... Warren DeMontague Jul 2017 #163

Good question. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2017 #146

Less than enthusiastically, I'd say. Not being a loyal Dem is a huge problem for me right now- bettyellen Jul 2017 #52

If they want to stay on DU, they will. Warren DeMontague Jul 2017 #86

He won't win a primary...so it is a moot point...the best chance was last time. Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #121

By definition, a discussion of hypotheticals Warren DeMontague Jul 2017 #127

Quite true...but I just don't see the support for another run...and he could damage our chances in Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #131

I think it's way too early to worry about it, honestly. Warren DeMontague Jul 2017 #132

I am more concerned with 18...but my fear is if Sen. Sanders runs again in20...he will Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #139

Of course they would support Bernie, just like Bernie's supporters did for Hillary. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2017 #112

I would...but no I don't think some would vote for him. I also think he would lose very badly Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #119

After what Bernie has said about the Democratic Party, I would not vote for him in a primary. Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #16

If he is the front runner they are going to have to get over it. Agschmid Jul 2017 #75

Nope. They can just turn someone else into the front runner. In the extremely unlikely event pnwmom Jul 2017 #76

I suspect most people in our party want what's best for our party. Warren DeMontague Jul 2017 #85

It isn't a matter of being "punished" for running against Hillary. Can't rehash the primary but seaglass Jul 2017 #128

I defiinitely dont want a singular, pre-ordained "marquee" candidate sucking the air out of the room Warren DeMontague Jul 2017 #129

I don't really get why people were surprised at Bernie's success, he had a strong message that seaglass Jul 2017 #143

Bernie is not a Democrat. So, no. LuvLoogie Jul 2017 #2

Yep, this time they'd better not let him on the ticket onetexan Jul 2017 #6

who is they... JCanete Jul 2017 #7

DNC onetexan Jul 2017 #10

oh, you mean us? They represent us right? I'm not sure how popular that decision JCanete Jul 2017 #47

NO, not DEMS as a whole onetexan Jul 2017 #62

Yes, somebody makes a decision on our behalf. You don't think barring a liberal from running JCanete Jul 2017 #74

bottom line a candidate SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO RUN ON A DEMOCRATIC PARTY TICKET onetexan Jul 2017 #96

When he runs he says he is a democrat, and enough of us are happy to invite him to run in our party. JCanete Jul 2017 #115

I believe we can do better and should learn from Hortensis Jul 2017 #64

I don't think it likely Sanders will run. If we have a candidate who represents what he represents, JCanete Jul 2017 #72

I ask this sincerely. sheshe2 Jul 2017 #78

Yea i was wondering the same thing onetexan Jul 2017 #94

Exactly, onetexan. sheshe2 Jul 2017 #99

favorable rating. I don't mean to mislead here, and there is a difference between those two things.. JCanete Jul 2017 #114

It would be popular with Democrats...and I do not believe he has an 80% approval rating...he would Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #122

of course you see a great deal of anger. You are here on DU where it gets hashed out every day. JCanete Jul 2017 #147

I don't think a non-Democrat on the ticket is a good idea...I want to win. In a center left country, Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #148

of course there would be a move to do that, and certainly no move to make primaries open. This isn't JCanete Jul 2017 #150

He's 75, ferchrissakes-- anyone really want a President in his 80's? He's got great name... TreasonousBastard Jul 2017 #3

Yep, I am sure a lot more names will, and should, pop up as we approach 2020. SunSeeker Jul 2017 #9

Do love Kamala too! InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2017 #30

Kamala Harris checks off every box! yallerdawg Jul 2017 #40

She sure does tho I think @this early stage Bernie wud have to be the favorite if he decides to run. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2017 #49

Me, too! pnwmom Jul 2017 #79

You mean he's got great policy ideas Warpy Jul 2017 #54

Bernie's done bdtrppr6 Jul 2017 #4

just thought of one Dem to hope on bdtrppr6 Jul 2017 #5

Sherrod Brown. Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #13

And You're Laughing About Kamala Harris...Why? Me. Jul 2017 #28

I agreed with you. Kamala Harris has to be considered brush Jul 2017 #35

Agree That Calif. Is Full Of Talent Me. Jul 2017 #39

I was hoping Hillary would pick Castro. Kaine wa political calculus I guess to appeal to white males brush Jul 2017 #42

Have No Problem With Villaraigosa Me. Jul 2017 #43

I forgot about Bacerra. He is also impressive. Some of these mentions could slide nicely into.. brush Jul 2017 #44

Exactly Me. Jul 2017 #45

Kindly don't call my state "Cali" Expecting Rain Jul 2017 #61

Whats wrong with Cali? Blue_Warrior Jul 2017 #82

Sorry, didn't know it was a no-no. But you have nothing to contribute to the discussion but that? brush Jul 2017 #103

I was born in Oakland - Cali is fine Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2017 #169

I also like Jay Inslee of Washington. And Oregon has two excellent Senators. Warren DeMontague Jul 2017 #154

I'm with you... Kamala should be taken very seriously. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2017 #50

! Me. Jul 2017 #51

No. Bernie is not a member of the Democratic Party. nt SunSeeker Jul 2017 #8

NO NON-DEMOCRATS IN OUR PRIMARIES!!!!! Foamfollower Jul 2017 #11

No he is not the frontrunner...he is not Democrat. As he went back to running as an independent , Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #12

Rep. Maxine Waters MUST be considered. AngryAmish Jul 2017 #15

Do love the way Maxine isnt afraid to speak her mind... she would make mincemeat of Donny Tiny Hands InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2017 #32

She's almost 80. Gidney N Cloyd Jul 2017 #36

Don't be ageist. AngryAmish Jul 2017 #41

Adam Schiff has such promise. Would like to see him considered..n/t monmouth4 Jul 2017 #20

At this point Bettie Jul 2017 #24

I am thinking Sanders will not be invited to participate in another Democratic primary. Eom pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #25

Nobody is "invited" to participate in Democratic primaries. former9thward Jul 2017 #81

The party can choose to replace all the caucuses -- where he got most of his vote -- with primaries. pnwmom Jul 2017 #105

i agree, and i hope not onetexan Jul 2017 #98

Joe Lieberman was the Democratic front runner at the start of the campaign for tblue37 Jul 2017 #26

true enough. This is a pretty worthless exercise at this point... JCanete Jul 2017 #116

As I recall, in order to be the Democratic front runner, you have to be a Democrat, and if still_one Jul 2017 #27

That is correct. NurseJackie Jul 2017 #38

I think that's incorrect. David__77 Jul 2017 #56

In order for someone to be considered the Democratic front runner, he has to run as a Democrat still_one Jul 2017 #58

Running in the Democratic primaries is "running as a Democrat." David__77 Jul 2017 #59

No, He won't even get on the ballot as a Democrat in most states unless he identifies as a Democrat still_one Jul 2017 #65

I think that if he wants to run in 2020, he will do whatever is required. David__77 Jul 2017 #66

Of course still_one Jul 2017 #73

If Sen.Sanders does this...we will lose. Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #123

Many states will now require that murielm99 Jul 2017 #110

No way would I vote for him in a primary. Adrahil Jul 2017 #31

He won't get the nomination...and would end up I believe with embarrassing numbers. Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #33

his "democratic socialism" message makes no sense onetexan Jul 2017 #101

He can't win a primary in 20 in my opinion...and will certainly lose a general in 20... Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #124

+ 1 musette_sf Jul 2017 #106

He is the front runner in the way Nate defines the term oberliner Jul 2017 #46

Are they asking this because the Sanders group "Our Revolution" has proven such a powerful Squinch Jul 2017 #53

I would consider supporting him. David__77 Jul 2017 #55

I would not support Sen. Sanders in a primary or Sec Clinton. I want a fresh face. nt Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #125

Is FiveThirtyEight really desperate for clicks? n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2017 #57

Nah, responding to a Matt Iglesias article that was all the rage in twitter-land emulatorloo Jul 2017 #60

Bit of a surprise to me bearsfootball516 Jul 2017 #68

538 is dead to me. Forever. Initech Jul 2017 #71

Nate said Trump had a 1 in 4 chance. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2017 #83

And that's one of the reasons why I think the election was stolen. Was every poll wrong? lunamagica Jul 2017 #92

Yeah there was something very wrong there. Initech Jul 2017 #100

dear lord can we have a candidate YOUNGER than me? samnsara Jul 2017 #84

I think it's way too early for that conversation. Warren DeMontague Jul 2017 #88

OMG lillypaddle Jul 2017 #117

Maybe I'm the only one, but I have the feeling Sanders wants to run as an Independent in 2020. betsuni Jul 2017 #134

I don't think it's sunk in to most people yet, but I doubt Bernie will be running for anything. VermontKevin Jul 2017 #138

Does he want his legacy to be acting as a 'Nader' and electing Republicans ...I don't believe that. Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #140

I don't think he sees it that way. betsuni Jul 2017 #145

Well if he runs as an independent and gives the GOP a lock down on the courts, Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #149

No. He would lose again. Renew Deal Jul 2017 #142

Fact is, the nominee will be someone aged 48-60 and a new face of the Party. tonyt53 Jul 2017 #151

It is way too early to poll for the Presidential election Progressive dog Jul 2017 #152

Can people please STFU about 2020 so we can focus on 2018? Blue_Tires Jul 2017 #159

God, I hope not. nikibatts Jul 2017 #167

40 months out, nobody is a frontrunner Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2017 #168

Please make it happen LittleBlue Jul 2017 #170