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Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
48. Republicans squeeze every last advantage
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 04:20 AM
Jun 2017

Illegal, unethical and outright lies but at least the moves make sense toward the desired outcome. Democrats, on the other hand, are inept handicappers. I've emphasized that countless times since joining this site in 2002 and for decades prior.

In Las Vegas sportsbook circles I quickly learned that I had to seize every method to negate and reverse the mathematical casino advantage. That meant I had to get the best possible odds on every game along with playing middles and arbitrages, etc. Daily grind with tons of legwork but logical and successful. In following politics I see the Republicans essentially doing the same thing. They aren't popular. They rarely pretend to be popular. They savage the opposition while placing a handful of big picture themes into the mindset of the electorate then hammering and hammering away. It's backed by massaging the districts and voter rolls in their favor. Russia was a late summon and candidate driven. Somebody like Jeb wouldn't have gone there, and probably denounced it, while more than satisfied with the typical schemes. He was Florida cleanse 2000, after all.

When I do all the exhaustive dirtywork in Las Vegas it's amazing how often the result cooperates. I imagine Republicans feel the same way. They must laugh like hell as we whine about machines and similar waste of time. None of that is earning a half percent here or half percent there. In fact, just the opposite. We actually play into their hands and do some of the work for them when the faces of our party are the likes of Nancy Pelosi and Rachel Maddow. That's no pushing or explaining required. One look or one mention and the hate overflows. Then we run Obama and Hillary back to back but somehow choose the most amazingly ignorant ordering possible. The more likable candidate had to go second, in the exponentially more difficult terrain after two straight terms for the party. I'll always wonder how the nation and world would have evolved if we'd simply been intelligent and slotted Hillary in 2008 with unmarked Obama waiting in the wings.

Then during the 2016 campaign we brainstorm to prioritize North Carolina and its 43% self-identified conservatives. We might as well campaign in Winnipeg. I realize I'm the only one who ever mentions those liberal/conservatives splits by state. That's the issue. The party relies on bullshit polls, ones that often carry no foundational logic whatsoever. Some of the polls in every campaign are so moronic it's literally like debuting pro football pregame polls and touting them on the air: Look, according to our poll Tom Brady is forecast to go 3 for 28 this week with 6 interceptions. Interesting.

Yes, Republican voters are stupid. We allow them to be stupid, without shame or concern. People don't like to feel stupid or inferior. There hasn't been one clever slogan or campaign aimed at jarring the fringe Republican voter out of the stupidity or gullibility. Remember the Apple commercials with the cool guy and the PC nerd? I absolutely loved that campaign. I've owned a chunk of Apple stock since the late '90s. I was touting Apple stock here when the price was 50 bucks and countless posters were dismissing the company as nothing but overpriced hardware, blah blah blah. In fact, those people are the reason I adopted this avatar well more than a decade ago. Lousy handicappers...no surprise.

I knew that Apple campaign was sheer brilliance, that it would unnerve some PC owners while swaying others to make the switch, to become cool. You could tell how effective the campaign was when Microsoft desperately tried to counter with its own pathetic version. And there is no reason Democratic strategists can't summon some type of ad aimed at people who fell for fake news, or believed the manufacturing jobs would magically reappear, etc.

It is not a risk. The risk is doing nothing similar. Chuck Schumer holding up a "Meaner" sign is exactly the type of standard fare hopelessly overmatched tactic we've used since I started following this party.

Women (who are the base) don't even figure into it for you. FUCK THAT, NOPE!! bettyellen Jun 2017 #1
How the hell do women not fit into the middle class American dream? Please, enough of that nonsense. LBM20 Jun 2017 #5
lol, "identiy politics" Skittles Jun 2017 #14
You seem completely unaware or unconcerned about the ongoing erosion of my rights. bettyellen Jun 2017 #20
I can guarantee you gun rights means more than women's rights to that one Skittles Jun 2017 #30
He's got a sick idea about "everybody", doesn't he? It's actually "me first" and that's bettyellen Jun 2017 #38
It needs to be done without attacking the rich too. I've Alice11111 Jun 2017 #2
Notice I didn't attack the rich. BUT, the rich need to pay their fair share. Easy. LBM20 Jun 2017 #6
Strongly agree, but it does come off as Dems hating the rich Alice11111 Jun 2017 #16
Considering what they have done to the US by buying out our democracy from under us FiveGoodMen Jun 2017 #36
And then there were FDR & JFK & LBJ BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #41
& Bill Gates, George Soros, Warren Buffett and hundreds Alice11111 Jun 2017 #43
But to drive home the point BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #44
Interesting photos. FDR started many social programs, LBJ Alice11111 Jun 2017 #45
I agree 100% BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #46
You make a special place for guns while throwing women and POC under your bus. No fuckig way. bettyellen Jun 2017 #22
that is what repukes do Skittles Jun 2017 #39
"Finally, we can not be a party just about government programs." BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #3
Dems have done a SHITTY job SAYING they are not just about government programs. So this COUNTERS LBM20 Jun 2017 #7
WTF? BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #15
Dems do a SHITTY job framing and sticking to one powerful collective message, and that is just the LBM20 Jun 2017 #19
You want one message that you think is "collective" and it is not. nt BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #35
Dems used to be better. The Repubs watched, copied, Alice11111 Jun 2017 #47
We need to talk small business, because the Repubs are Alice11111 Jun 2017 #21
pro gun Skittles Jun 2017 #4
Please, enough of the extremism. It means favoring safe legal hunting, sport shooting, and self LBM20 Jun 2017 #8
enough with the extreme? Skittles Jun 2017 #11
No, idiots unsafe with guns who allow kids to access them kill them. I am damn talking about LBM20 Jun 2017 #28
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Skittles Jun 2017 #32
Yeah, we have to be realistic. I grew up partly on my grand Alice11111 Jun 2017 #42
Yaeh, because corporate donors and people with money are ALL bad right? They didn't help us win nikibatts Jun 2017 #9
Do you want to be a progressive populist brand or do you want to be a second Wall Street brand? Your LBM20 Jun 2017 #12
We have some core values and one of them is to be INCLUSIVE! nikibatts Jun 2017 #18
But but but.... his paycheck! bettyellen Jun 2017 #24
!!! Alice11111 Jun 2017 #25
It is not either or. At least half of Wall Street voted Hillary, Alice11111 Jun 2017 #33
For sure. I've been trying to make this point too Alice11111 Jun 2017 #29
well glad you fixed that problem for us. so long as no one actually asks a question on abortion La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2017 #10
ALL lives matter, and some Dems can disagree on social issues and still be Dems. Or we LOSE. LBM20 Jun 2017 #13
i would not vote for someone who in this day and age and after 2016 La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2017 #17
So who, then will women of color turn out for that will actually benefit them? The women of color I nikibatts Jun 2017 #23
democrats won't be dumb enough to depend on WOC and run away from them La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2017 #26
So guns matter more than women's lives? Your paycheck more than Justice for POC.? Nope.... bettyellen Jun 2017 #27
You just put a "litmus test" on a wing of the party BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #34
Call us the Bourgeous party? bresue Jun 2017 #31
I still don't know what or who corporate Democrats are. betsuni Jun 2017 #37
by the way Skittles Jun 2017 #40
Republicans squeeze every last advantage Awsi Dooger Jun 2017 #48
I guess I just do not fall for slick shit Skittles Jun 2017 #49
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