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In reply to the discussion: Democrats have nothing to gain be telling Bernie and his supporters to go to hell [View all]Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)Being in "the real world" doesn't HAVE to mean believing that the Dems can only win if we're centrist.
We had a great platform. If HRC had made that platform the centerpiece of her campaign, her support wouldn't have dropped. Instead her strategists focused on attacking Trump. Most of the party leadership has admitted that doubling down on "going negative" didn't work.
And it isn't Sanders ideas versus Democratic ideas. You are not the voice of the Democratic Party. You're just one guy with one opinion-an opinion formed in a state where Dems haven't won a statewide race in twenty years, and every statewide race(statewide races can't be affected by gerrymandering)was run on YOUR "I ain't a liberal" template.
If we run only on Clinton ideas, we can't ever win majority support, because the young can never be brought out in large numbers in support of a centrist, left-hating presidential candidate.
BTW, if you're saying we lost because of Comey, you've just admitted that the Sanders delegates you've held a grudge against about Philly were blameless for the fall result-which means you admitted Bernie is blameless for the fall result.
What the fall proves is that we can't win by running a centrist rather than progressive in the fall while simultaneously screaming "you have to, you have to, you HAVE TO!" at people to the left of your comfort zone whose votes we need to win.