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Freethinker65

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104. Sounds like Ossoff is running to represent his future constituents

Mon Jun 12, 2017, 10:37 AM

Jun 2017

This is how it should be. He has found areas of agreement for people in the district to rally around despite political party preference.

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Every Democrat should read this article in the NY Times. [View all] kentuck Jun 2017 OP

Ossoff's stategy might win a race here or there... virtualobserver Jun 2017 #1

The only way to get more progressive policies is to win elections. DanTex Jun 2017 #4

True. I think the challenge for Democrats will be how well they can adapt to their districts? kentuck Jun 2017 #5

Educate voters to care about policies over sound bite. Too many Dems had no idea what HRC promoted bettyellen Jun 2017 #26

And that condescending approach is why she lost Les Cowbell Jun 2017 #52

Condesending says the man who tells me to "try reading" Lakeoff bettyellen Jun 2017 #112

Not values. BRAND. Rump voters abandoned all Hortensis Jun 2017 #119

AND we need to contest across the country. The Dem leadership should tblue37 Jun 2017 #27

the way to win elections is to focus on how Republican policies harm voters virtualobserver Jun 2017 #10

Joe Manchin won in WV while running away from Obama. DanTex Jun 2017 #14

The Democratic Party has been using this time honored strategy since the early 90's... virtualobserver Jun 2017 #15

The problem, in my opinion, is that even when they get a majority in Congress... kentuck Jun 2017 #17

They act like mushy moderates because that is how they campaigned. virtualobserver Jun 2017 #20

In order to have the power to craft legislation by being in the majority...you have to accept Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #81

And in that time controlled the White House for 16 years. And won the popular vote DanTex Jun 2017 #18

As we have seen, controlling the White House isn't enough. virtualobserver Jun 2017 #21

controlling the white house gave us supreme court justices and nation wide same sex marriage JI7 Jun 2017 #37

it didn't give us Merrick Garland virtualobserver Jun 2017 #39

that has to do with republican control of senate . if hillary had won merrick garland would be sc JI7 Jun 2017 #40

No, the Republicans would have blocked the nomination for 4 years.... virtualobserver Jun 2017 #42

in the end it really is about demographics and white voters voting on white privilege JI7 Jun 2017 #43

No, it is about Democrats not making the case for themselves and against Republicans. virtualobserver Jun 2017 #45

we have actual numbers. there is a reason why trump appealed to mainly white voters JI7 Jun 2017 #47

As I said....Democrats didn't make the case. virtualobserver Jun 2017 #51

I absolutely agree with this. alarimer Jun 2017 #91

+1 betsuni Jun 2017 #49

Feel free to suggest another term besides "hard left". DanTex Jun 2017 #88

It has nothing to do with "left" virtualobserver Jun 2017 #95

Yes, it has everything to do with the hard left. DanTex Jun 2017 #99

No, the onus is on you. You have to explain to me why this strategy which lost 1000 seats.... virtualobserver Jun 2017 #100

That's a joke. The Democratic Party has both won and lost a lot of seats over the DanTex Jun 2017 #103

your endless straw men about Nader and Stein bore me. virtualobserver Jun 2017 #106

They're not straw, those are real people. DanTex Jun 2017 #109

the current strategy is leading to electoral losses virtualobserver Jun 2017 #116

Can I borrow part of your post? moda253 Jun 2017 #110

Sure, by all means, post away. Thanks. DanTex Jun 2017 #113

Thanks! moda253 Jun 2017 #117

That's your spin. It may very well be that this strategy kept us from worse losses. You have no stevenleser Jun 2017 #32

There is no proof that suggests the opposite virtualobserver Jun 2017 #38

gore got more votes than bush. and hillary got more votes than trump and a higher percentage of JI7 Jun 2017 #41

Yes, but my point is still true..... virtualobserver Jun 2017 #44

people vote on many issues. and people who voted for trump voted largely on race and other social JI7 Jun 2017 #46

I'm not talking about Trump.... virtualobserver Jun 2017 #48

you have to admit the bigotry first. they vote republican because the republicans represent JI7 Jun 2017 #50

that's the thing, though.....the Republicans don't actually represent their interests virtualobserver Jun 2017 #53

if their interest is banning immigrants, refugees. opposing black lives matter, the republicans DO JI7 Jun 2017 #55

none of those things actually are in their interest.....they are just the flags that Republicans.... virtualobserver Jun 2017 #57

you don't decide what is in their interests. they do and they show it by voting year after year JI7 Jun 2017 #58

If we are going to be the victim party, then we let the Republicans continue to delude them virtualobserver Jun 2017 #60

i'm calling them out on their bigotry. i'm not going to pretend why they voted the way they do JI7 Jun 2017 #62

So you aren't into trying to win elections....you just want to scold them virtualobserver Jun 2017 #63

they should be scolded if they are bigots instead of pretending it isn't what it is JI7 Jun 2017 #65

how does that win elections? virtualobserver Jun 2017 #66

how does pretending the bigotry doesn't exist win ? JI7 Jun 2017 #67

waiting on demographic changes is not a strategy virtualobserver Jun 2017 #69

it has been explained many times. their problem is with black lives matter and immigrants JI7 Jun 2017 #70

Republicans are not a monolith virtualobserver Jun 2017 #71

candidates run for office to get into office so they appeal to what the voters want JI7 Jun 2017 #72

There is absolutely proof that suggests an approach to a broader audience improved results stevenleser Jun 2017 #118

not in terms of the House....only 6 of those 25 years. virtualobserver Jun 2017 #120

House races are not national elections, they are local elections where the constituencies vary widel stevenleser Jun 2017 #121

You don't get my point. House and Senate races NEED to be nationalized. virtualobserver Jun 2017 #122

Worked pretty well when Howard Dean did it in 2006 sweetloukillbot Jun 2017 #59

Agree 100 percent n/t Les Cowbell Jun 2017 #54

Congressman for the district alone MiddleClass Jun 2017 #19

So, you think that a Democrat who shows disrespect to Nancy Pelosi will stand up for us? virtualobserver Jun 2017 #22

We can make the case after we take back the house...and the reality is that progressive does Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #83

Progressive will sell in red states, it just has to be explained properly virtualobserver Jun 2017 #92

It won't sell...it just won't. Maybe after we get back in power with the help of centrists... Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #102

when you really look at the race in Kansas.. virtualobserver Jun 2017 #105

Neither candidate was ever going to win...they were the wrong person for the state. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #108

The refrain that we heard during the General Election campaign was... George II Jun 2017 #94

No one cast their vote based on something from the convention that they never even heard about.... virtualobserver Jun 2017 #98

Silly article. Warpy Jun 2017 #2

Ding, Ding, Ding! peggysue2 Jun 2017 #33

I agree, but let's woodsprite Jun 2017 #78

If it needs to be tattooed on anyone it is Bernie Sanders! moda253 Jun 2017 #111

Ossoff would not be considered GOP light anywhere. and Gingrich's district is not the same as when JI7 Jun 2017 #36

I agree with Rep. Emanuel Cleaver tammywammy Jun 2017 #3

+100 kentuck Jun 2017 #6

I agree, tammywammy. brer cat Jun 2017 #9

I'd take a Manchin over Cruz every day. tammywammy Jun 2017 #11

In the past, progressive ideas have been shut down, even in very progressive districts... kentuck Jun 2017 #13

If even very progressive districts brer cat Jun 2017 #23

Ever think that is because progressives GulfCoast66 Jun 2017 #29

maybe those progressive ideas are not progressive or the district is not progressive. i know in this JI7 Jun 2017 #35

Well...if they can't get elected in progressive districts whatever that means...than Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #84

I'm getting tired of sanders purity litmus tests AlexSFCA Jun 2017 #7

Yet Sen. Sanders endorsed Mello who was a anti-choice...and voted against women's rights in Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #85

That was a purity test in an of itself. alarimer Jun 2017 #93

exactly AlexSFCA Jun 2017 #96

Why is economic policy a must have? And abortion rights are civil rights. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #101

The article's main premise is false mcar Jun 2017 #8

Progressives believe themselves to be the "base" of the Party, whether accurate or not. kentuck Jun 2017 #12

I couldn't get through the whole thing mcar Jun 2017 #16

Good point. Women and minorities are the base, pnwmom Jun 2017 #28

NYT loves its Dems in Disarray memes mcar Jun 2017 #34

do women and minorities not come in the far left variety? But clearly the left of the party is maybe JCanete Jun 2017 #61

Sanders lost by 4 million votes, so it makes little sense pnwmom Jun 2017 #64

yeah, I agree with that. JCanete Jun 2017 #68

Exactly Me. Jun 2017 #30

It starts with unwinding gerrymandered districts DeminPennswoods Jun 2017 #24

I believe in running candidates appropriate to their districts/states. Tatiana Jun 2017 #25

+1000 Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #86

districts are different. there is no one way to win. you have to know the district JI7 Jun 2017 #31

While not so much here, it should be noted that Bernie is extremely popular in this country CentralMass Jun 2017 #56

It should also be noted that candidates he supported have lost races...thus his popularity does not Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #87

Sanders would never have won. nt cwydro Jun 2017 #73

Ossoff is running a smart campaign for voters of HIS district and we should NEVER lose sight beachbum bob Jun 2017 #74

I do believe that a perceived change in the Party could be good for the Party. kentuck Jun 2017 #75

one reason conservatives win, they APPEAR to be "stronger"....democratic leaders beachbum bob Jun 2017 #76

They say doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is the definition... kentuck Jun 2017 #79

democrats have principles and the overriding priciples are always centered in beachbum bob Jun 2017 #82

No, we need a change in attitude from some...you will never make everyone happy. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #89

Agree partly with the article... Mike Nelson Jun 2017 #77

And how is he different then Mello and Perriello in Virginia...both supported by Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #80

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C'mon AlexSFCA Jun 2017 #97

Sounds like Ossoff is running to represent his future constituents Freethinker65 Jun 2017 #104

His emphasis on wasteful spending and his bland both-sideism do not excite. Orsino Jun 2017 #107

Perhaps it is not strategy, but just who Mr. Ossoff is? Freethinker65 Jun 2017 #114

Oh, shit. I hope not. n/t Orsino Jun 2017 #115