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Ninsianna

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68. It might have something to do with the anger and the unwarranted and untrue
Mon Jun 12, 2017, 01:19 AM
Jun 2017

Last edited Mon Jun 12, 2017, 02:55 AM - Edit history (1)

attacks on actual Democrats as found in the OP. Progressives are Democrats, we are not "new" and those of us who are actually progressive are not the ones throwing the feces at the party or the progressives who've been proud to be members and working hard for actual progressive values which no one Senator, regardless of claims otherwise, originated. These are Democratic values that Democrats have been fighting for, ones that "new" and "temporary" additions to the party don't seem to have bothered to educate themselves on.

I would love it if these super special "new" dems, who still don't know much about the party they scorn, would stop attacking us and remember that we're all fighting Trump and the
Republicans, but they seem to be mired in the muck of the 2016 and don't quite understand that there is not "infighting", but a lot of people on the outside who seem to be attacking us and not the actual enemy of progressives and liberals.

It would be nice people stop with the inflammatory and anger filled posts that seem to be targeted to actual create infighting and divisions where none actually exist with real progressives and actual Democrats.

We must simply ignore these divisive forces which don't quite hide their goals to sow dissension, and simply go on with the fight, that these guys seem to enjoy taking all the credit for, despite the fact that they only resist common sense and progressives that have made up the Democratic party that these folks have only joined temporarily, merely to make trouble it seems.

can you give specific names ? JI7 Jun 2017 #1
Easily, but don't want to be banned. rwsanders Jun 2017 #38
"Have you stopped beating your wife?" apcalc Jun 2017 #2
Thre OP reads like "Oh poor me everybody hates me" wasupaloopa Jun 2017 #3
-There is a real issue available....We do not need infighting Boxerfan Jun 2017 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Beartracks Jun 2017 #34
Nothing like a Trumpf presidency SusanaMontana41 Jun 2017 #49
By "energized, engaged young voters", you mean those who went to Sander's rallies? lunamagica Jun 2017 #66
Yeah those are the ones. SusanaMontana41 Jun 2017 #151
Strangely enough, Hillary WON. She got 3,000,000 more votes than Trump. About 66,000,000.... Hekate Jun 2017 #78
The only candidate in history more unpopular than Hillary is Donald Trump. SusanaMontana41 Jun 2017 #150
Yes... disillusioned73 Jun 2017 #102
That's my Democratic Party. SusanaMontana41 Jun 2017 #153
I think you've got the wrong end of this... Adrahil Jun 2017 #5
Thanks for saying so. It was an ugly primary and lots of name calling lovemydogs Jun 2017 #10
I agree with Adrahil LeftInTX Jun 2017 #146
Prove it zipplewrath Jun 2017 #156
Post removed Post removed Jun 2017 #32
What's a progressive? What's a liberal democrat?..,, beachbum bob Jun 2017 #6
As a former card carrying UK Liberal Democrat... mwooldri Jun 2017 #57
unfortunately "liberal and progressive" democrats have voted for both, The OP clearly doesn't beachbum bob Jun 2017 #88
I keep seeing angry posts and am cannot figure out the reason lovemydogs Jun 2017 #7
It might have something to do with the anger and the unwarranted and untrue Ninsianna Jun 2017 #68
+1 betsuni Jun 2017 #72
Well said, ninsianna!! brer cat Jun 2017 #104
All kinds of problems with your premise but this link sums up my general position stevenleser Jun 2017 #8
you are almost my username doppelganger lol luvMIdog Jun 2017 #9
How much did you donate to the DNC? WhiteTara Jun 2017 #11
We know how to do that. I had Bernie on retainer for a year. SusanaMontana41 Jun 2017 #51
Bernie Sanders is not the DNC WhiteTara Jun 2017 #101
It helped promote a little known senator into one of the most influential senators Kentonio Jun 2017 #121
That "little known" senator had been in WhiteTara Jun 2017 #136
Dang right he isn't the DNC. I'd do it again. nt SusanaMontana41 Jun 2017 #149
Well, actually, he is in the DNC WhiteTara Jun 2017 #152
Is he now? I live in a cabin in Alaska SusanaMontana41 Jun 2017 #154
Progressives are pro-gun? LexVegas Jun 2017 #12
no, but i could understand someone in some rural areas taking that position if that was the only way JI7 Jun 2017 #37
Look, I am not trying to do anything but, understand something for my own wondering lovemydogs Jun 2017 #13
I'm sorry you're not getting answers here. elleng Jun 2017 #18
Nonsense...this entire OP was designed to start a fight. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #94
Because it allows people to avoid taking any responsibility for the shitshow that was the campaign Kentonio Jun 2017 #122
Forget it. I was curious about something and thought I would ask lovemydogs Jun 2017 #14
You don't need to "forget it", but you do need to explain what you mean DanTex Jun 2017 #17
Don't take it personal. I think the bulk of DU is more on the Progressive side too Quixote1818 Jun 2017 #20
What makes you think they hate progressives? I'm curious to understand. DanTex Jun 2017 #15
No, you wouldn't have seem a trace of it. Kentonio Jun 2017 #124
Re-read that thread. It wasn't calling progressives alt-left. DanTex Jun 2017 #129
Why would you call Cornel West 'alt-left'? Kentonio Jun 2017 #130
For starters, he helped Trump get elected by supporting Jill Stein. DanTex Jun 2017 #132
Your logic is very strange. Kentonio Jun 2017 #133
It's actually very simple. Helping Republicans helps Republicans. DanTex Jun 2017 #135
You're making an argument that there is only one morally acceptable use for a persons right to vote Kentonio Jun 2017 #140
I didn't use the words "morally acceptable", now you're just making things up. DanTex Jun 2017 #141
No you didn't use those exact words. Kentonio Jun 2017 #142
I stand by that. He does display unhinged hatred of the Democratic Party. DanTex Jun 2017 #145
cornell West said horrible things about Pres. Obama and has Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #137
Oh this is after the election...so now you know why I despise the West... plenty more where the Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #139
It's About Bernie & His Continual Bashing Of Dems Me. Jun 2017 #16
Not. It was happening long before Sanders ran leftstreet Jun 2017 #23
That True Me. Jun 2017 #24
"It is still going on today," as you say, because of posts like this. This was originally a Squinch Jun 2017 #19
Bingo, Squinch Hekate Jun 2017 #79
Great reply mcar Jun 2017 #96
We REALLY need a way to rec a post! NastyRiffraff Jun 2017 #112
+ 1 musette_sf Jun 2017 #117
May I ask what your involvement at the local level is? crazycatlady Jun 2017 #21
Member of the Republican Party, is my guess. L. Coyote Jun 2017 #27
HE was thinking of running against Elizabeth Warren crazycatlady Jun 2017 #113
... nini Jun 2017 #119
The problem is you don't accept that those you question believe the same things nini Jun 2017 #22
Why do some progressives hate Democrats? mcar Jun 2017 #25
You beat me to it. My question exactly. LisaM Jun 2017 #29
Yes mcar Jun 2017 #40
Thank you. NurseJackie Jun 2017 #46
;) sheshe2 Jun 2017 #58
And they hate a fictional Democratic Party. betsuni Jun 2017 #67
This. nt Kahuna7 Jun 2017 #90
Spot on, mcar! brer cat Jun 2017 #105
Great question Gothmog Jun 2017 #109
They don't. But the Republicans and Russians want Progressives to believe this total bullshit. L. Coyote Jun 2017 #26
To the extent this is true, the answer's simple: sandensea Jun 2017 #28
I didn't know they did NobodyHere Jun 2017 #30
Absolutely agree. And it tends zentrum Jun 2017 #31
I think the notion that the "Liberal, Democratic Establishment Hates Progressives" is... hrmjustin Jun 2017 #33
"the New Democrats/Establishment, moderate/republican lite policies" spare us the still_one Jun 2017 #35
+1000 sheshe2 Jun 2017 #59
+1000 brer cat Jun 2017 #106
Great post Gothmog Jun 2017 #110
Define progressive for me GulfCoast66 Jun 2017 #36
The vitriol in the answers here.. Nevernose Jun 2017 #39
Hear hear! nt defacto7 Jun 2017 #43
The ones that do will never bother to reply. rwsanders Jun 2017 #41
Non Sequitur. nt fleabiscuit Jun 2017 #42
Oh, this is a loaded question and likely thread.... LovingA2andMI Jun 2017 #44
LOL NurseJackie Jun 2017 #45
Yup sheshe2 Jun 2017 #60
Was going to say the same thing. betsuni Jun 2017 #65
What's a "liberal"? What's a "progressive"? SusanaMontana41 Jun 2017 #47
If you are talking about Bernie, I can tell you, otherwise, I don't hate progressives. Hamlette Jun 2017 #48
Wonderful reply. Thank you! lunamagica Jun 2017 #69
Wow! betsuni Jun 2017 #77
Bravo!!! lamp_shade Jun 2017 #82
Excellent reply JustAnotherGen Jun 2017 #85
This! nt Kahuna7 Jun 2017 #91
+1000 brer cat Jun 2017 #107
I don't understand. TygrBright Jun 2017 #50
Well, i don't hate. Raine1967 Jun 2017 #52
Haven't you reversed the actual situation? brush Jun 2017 #53
rapturously recieved... nt sheshe2 Jun 2017 #61
+1 Jamaal510 Jun 2017 #62
Seems some should be tending their own gardens mcar Jun 2017 #97
I'm not buying it. Posts like this sow division. redstateblues Jun 2017 #54
+1. The premise of the OP is its purpose. FreepFryer Jun 2017 #63
You are painting with a broad hyperbolic brush. I think you are WAY off base here. LBM20 Jun 2017 #55
Because progressives are more often than not a massive liability Sen. Walter Sobchak Jun 2017 #56
A much stronger argument Jamaal510 Jun 2017 #64
This. sheshe2 Jun 2017 #70
No, a stronger argument would have been that this fire is fed by both sides of this issue. Also, JCanete Jun 2017 #75
Yep. I see it and fight it out on twitter everyday. nt Kahuna7 Jun 2017 #92
+100000 YCHDT Jun 2017 #115
Because we're the lowly working class. Lunabell Jun 2017 #71
Actually the "working class" progressives point to BainsBane Jun 2017 #81
One word: MiltonBrown Jun 2017 #73
Corporations fund many campaigns and they often get what they want out of it. MiltonBrown Jun 2017 #131
Bernie was here in Chicago this weekend bdjhawk Jun 2017 #74
And not one word about the GOP's attempt to kill millions by repealing the ACA...oh yeah Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #95
Given that the 2016 party platform was the most Progressive in decades, the real question is... Hekate Jun 2017 #76
+ 1 musette_sf Jun 2017 #116
The GOP House just passed legislation to deregulate banking BainsBane Jun 2017 #80
Damn right Hekate Jun 2017 #118
Yet days later BainsBane Jun 2017 #120
In the Here and Now, Bernie is not a friend of ours Hekate Jun 2017 #144
Trashing thread. yardwork Jun 2017 #83
We are in the fight of our lives and you secondwind Jun 2017 #84
I do not agree with your terms or definitions so it is impossible to answer delisen Jun 2017 #86
They don't -- next! obamanut2012 Jun 2017 #87
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ ProfessorPlum Jun 2017 #89
Because they work so hard to undermine treestar Jun 2017 #93
+++++ LeftInTX Jun 2017 #147
Because they split the party and helped cause the 2016 Clinton defeat..... Paladin Jun 2017 #98
Democrats know their voters would vote for a socialist party, but the leadership prefers capitalism. DemocraticWing Jun 2017 #99
It's a very old argument. alarimer Jun 2017 #100
I don't hate progressives. I am one ismnotwasm Jun 2017 #103
I don't have anything against anybody whom votes D Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2017 #108
They don't. This either a strawman argument or psychological projection on your part. emulatorloo Jun 2017 #111
The REAL question is why did the Alt Left do everything they could to help the Alt Right seize power Foamfollower Jun 2017 #114
Word. BainsBane Jun 2017 #123
People call themselves "progressive" and not "liberal" MountCleaners Jun 2017 #125
Some of the "progressive?" leaders spend lots of time attacking Progressive dog Jun 2017 #126
It's actually the other way around. nt Trumpocalypse Jun 2017 #127
Still not a single word of concern about the GOP vote deregulating banking BainsBane Jun 2017 #128
A fellow's wife leaves him because he doesn't keep the lawn properly mowed. dawg Jun 2017 #134
!!!!!!! THIS!!!!!!!!! This is so awesome! Squinch Jun 2017 #148
Inevitable in a two-party system that there would be infighting. Orsino Jun 2017 #138
Wherefore do you speak? There is no "Democratic Establishment" It's a Coalition of Establishments. haele Jun 2017 #143
Fine with so-called progressives, as long as they are not just using that moniker cause it's cool. Hoyt Jun 2017 #155
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