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pnwmom

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47. None of the links here have addressed the issue of consequences,

Sat Jun 3, 2017, 01:13 AM

Jun 2017

except to say there ARE consequences. So the question is still left -- what are the consequences of a breach, and could they include limiting access to the most secret materials?

https://news.clearancejobs.com/2014/06/28/congressional-staff-members-required-obtain-security-clearances/

House members and staff must take a self-imposed secrecy oath, while the Senate does not.
Once a congressional or judicial staff member are “read in,” he/she should receive training on how to properly protect classified information.

They also receive a clarification of the consequences when he/she does not properly protect classified information.

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Devin Nunes Has Top Secret Clearance Revoked [View all] UCmeNdc Jun 2017 OP

+1 Me. Jun 2017 #1

I'll believe that when it comes from a real news source. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2017 #2

What you said. Amaryllis Jun 2017 #10

Ditto, sounds like unreliable information Kleveland Jun 2017 #11

Right. This story is two days old and I haven't seen it picked up anywhere else. Surely it would Midnight Writer Jun 2017 #13

It's been more than 2 months since he let slip the classified info -- pnwmom Jun 2017 #15

Like I said - I'll believe this when it turns up on a real news source. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2017 #16

If you make a financial contributions to her account that will grantcart Jun 2017 #26

Ah. I see. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2017 #30

well that sounds like happy news nt msongs Jun 2017 #3

House intelligence chair gets security clearance revoked. How awesome is that! unblock Jun 2017 #4

Isn't Trump the only one who can do that? n/t Tarheel_Dem Jun 2017 #5

no. the president does not grant or remove clearances. drray23 Jun 2017 #8

I asked because I heard on MSNBC that Dems were demanding that Kushner's clearance be... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2017 #52

I've got news for you FBaggins Jun 2017 #61

I hope this comes to fruition, I truly do. FlightRN Jun 2017 #6

Give horse a new set of shoes and a Bon Voyage party Warpy Jun 2017 #7

He has abused his security clearance, his games he has played with trump was not Thinkingabout Jun 2017 #9

K & R L. Coyote Jun 2017 #12

Is there another source to this story? kentuck Jun 2017 #14

Not that I could find. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2017 #18

If it is not on CNN or MSNBC... kentuck Jun 2017 #20

The people who are doing the real digging are at the Washington Post and the NY Times. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2017 #22

True. kentuck Jun 2017 #58

Um, patriobotics is a crackpot website. PSPS Jun 2017 #17

hah crackpotics, if you will tandem5 Jun 2017 #21

More Mensch Bullshit: Members of Congress don't have to get security clearances onenote Jun 2017 #19

Page 4 talks about them not needing security clearances, pnwmom Jun 2017 #23

FFS. Members of Congress don't go through background checks or get clearances. Period. onenote Jun 2017 #25

That's kind of scary when you consider some of the people who are in the House.... The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2017 #27

Maybe so, but its always been this way. onenote Jun 2017 #28

They don't receive the same security clearances other people do. pnwmom Jun 2017 #32

But that's not what Mensch's gossip item says. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2017 #36

No, you misquoted her. pnwmom Jun 2017 #38

But he never had a TOP SECRET clearance to revoke! The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2017 #42

And what does that have to do with what Mensch wrote. Nothing. onenote Jun 2017 #39

Wrong. She did not say he had his security clearance revoked. pnwmom Jun 2017 #40

He never had a TOP SECRET clearance to revoke! The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2017 #43

I'll try one more time. Members of Congress don't get security clearances. onenote Jun 2017 #44

Where is your link showing that they have access to even the highest levels pnwmom Jun 2017 #37

Where is your link that says they don't? onenote Jun 2017 #41

None of the links here have addressed the issue of consequences, pnwmom Jun 2017 #47

I give up. Believe what you want. One of these days you'll realize what a fraud Mensch is. onenote Jun 2017 #49

The intelligence committees are given classified info as needed for their work. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2017 #29

So, since he recused himself, they shouldn't be giving him materials pnwmom Jun 2017 #33

They give the information to the committees, which are responsible The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2017 #34

True; classified materials given to congressional committees are handled like this: The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2017 #24

Your second link says, "The legal ramifications are murky." pnwmom Jun 2017 #35

The paragraph you cite about consequences relates to staffers, who DO have to get clearances. onenote Jun 2017 #46

I agree the wording was confusing, but House members DO receive training pnwmom Jun 2017 #48

It's not confusing to anyone but you. onenote Jun 2017 #50

Thanks for this. I don't understand why Mensch and BFF Claude Taylor, The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2017 #51

We DO know that Nunes is currently being investigated by the House Ethics pnwmom Jun 2017 #54

if this were true it would be all over the news. hrmjustin Jun 2017 #31

Once again, Mensch is publishing a "story" that can't be true. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2017 #45

Have you forgotten that the House Ethics Committee is currently investigating pnwmom Jun 2017 #53

The House Ethics Committee doesn't impose sanctions, it recommends them onenote Jun 2017 #55

If they have limited his access to top secret or SCIF materials while they investigate pnwmom Jun 2017 #56

Uhhhh. The rules of the Committee and the House? onenote Jun 2017 #59

+1000 Cattledog Jun 2017 #57

Well, that sounds like big news, for sure. MineralMan Jun 2017 #60