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41. You're being results oriented

Fri Jul 6, 2012, 09:31 PM

Jul 2012

You can't conclude with any certainty that the right choice was made based on the outcome of an event. This is an anecdote, not data and you can't rerun the scenario with the firefighter not giving the woman his oxygen mask.

Given that the general advice in this situation or when securing oxygen masks on an airplane is to first secure yourself and then the victim, the statistically correct move is probably to not give up your oxygen mask.

If that is the case that the statistically correct play is to keep your oxygen, then over time people who don't do that will wind up statistically costing more lives. For a more concrete example, there are some people who die because they were wearing a seat belt during a car accident, but overall seat belts save lives.

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firefighter in trouble 4 giving woman his breathing mask, he also gave her $500 of his overtime pay [View all] Liberal_in_LA Jul 2012 OP

kr HiPointDem Jul 2012 #1

Trained professionals follow procedures for a reason. CBGLuthier Jul 2012 #2

Sometimes procedures need to yield to pragmatism. marmar Jul 2012 #4

Very true permatex Jul 2012 #18

Come one, is procedure more important than lives? demwing Jul 2012 #13

Trained professional also know that not every circumstance is covered by procedure, policy or protoc LanternWaste Jul 2012 #15

Correct: Procedure states he should have kept his breather on and gotten her out of there Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #19

Fuck procedure. phleshdef Jul 2012 #26

Procedures are guidelines... ljm2002 Jul 2012 #37

Romney would Worried senior Jul 2012 #3

It sounds bad, but there's a reason for this cthulu2016 Jul 2012 #5

Sounds like he took a big breath and then gave her one, he shared. siligut Jul 2012 #6

I'm not really saying anything against him cthulu2016 Jul 2012 #9

That's funny, I used the same comparison. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #20

Sure, let the victim panic because she can't breath - RC Jul 2012 #25

Despite your keen observations, it is possible cthulu2016 Jul 2012 #39

It WAS a calculated risk. CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2012 #7

+1000 rufus dog Jul 2012 #14

THIS time it was calculated correctly ... littlewolf Jul 2012 #16

I agree permatex Jul 2012 #21

This ^^^^^^^^^^ Rex Jul 2012 #30

You're being results oriented mythology Jul 2012 #41

Procedure cannot concieve every possibility. DrewFlorida Jul 2012 #8

If this went into his personnel jacket permatex Jul 2012 #22

If it went into his employee record, I would disagree with that. DrewFlorida Jul 2012 #31

Hopefully all that happened was that permatex Jul 2012 #32

With a positive pressure mask, JoeyT Jul 2012 #10

it's like that story of the lifeguards who went out of their zone. barbtries Jul 2012 #11

notice that even on this supposedly progressive board, Occulus Jul 2012 #24

Not sure where you get the idea! DrewFlorida Jul 2012 #33

+100000000 permatex Jul 2012 #38

i did notice that. barbtries Jul 2012 #35

Notice that on this board not everyone is a fool cthulu2016 Jul 2012 #40

I was thinking of this thread, and the lifeguard one *specifically*. Occulus Jul 2012 #42

Philadelphia firefighters are all heroes. RebelOne Jul 2012 #12

in the fire service freelancing is dangerous - a big FU to Fox for exploiting Agony Jul 2012 #17

Good call Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #23

I'm assuming it was based on real life experiences, hedgehog Jul 2012 #27

I'm not sure if Rescue Me was based on real life experiences. permatex Jul 2012 #34

I can see both sides...... but Smilo Jul 2012 #28

often the procedure is there to protect the institution, not the people. unblock Jul 2012 #29

What an amazing person.... We need more of him in Washington.... To teach how to serve the people... midnight Jul 2012 #36

In spite of procedure, he saved her life Kennah Jul 2012 #43