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stupidicus

(2,570 posts)
34. ho hum, the same old stuff
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 10:18 PM
Jul 2012

wholly lacking in any examples or evidence, other than the frequently observed repetition of the same charge around here from those who can't rebut the facts that justify the criticisms of the dems that they abhor.

I see this

and with no real-world reason or justification other than trying to repeat the debacle of 2000 and put another right-wing Republican into the White House.


used all the time and applied to those who criticize this and that about BHO and/or the dems, but I have never seen a poster here actually claim that the two parties are identical in all ways as you claim. If they did, they wouldn't be here long, now would they, given how intolerant some around here are of ANY dissent or criticisms whatsoever? Naturally you and those like you would be calling for their being banned

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since that "AWK AWK they're identical" stuff would appear to violate certain TOS criteria. This is why I see these exaggerated charges as the BS they are, and the product of a less than creative imagination, because they (those charged here) likely would have provided cause for their expulsion in relatively short order. AFter all, if there position incontrovertibly and demonstratably is that there "is no real difference", then that "the same" stuff as an implied advocating for no diff in who you vote for -- an inarguable violation of that bolded above. Are you suggesting that the moderators/owners here aren't doing their job adequately?

It's really nothing more than dodge and an insult to those who do have honest and defensible criticisms of BHO and the dems, and is no doubt designed for and intended to either make social lepers outta them here, silence them, and to spare you the embarrassment of having no credible defense of the things they criticize.

Of course there are diffs between the two parties in terms of policy pursuits, some are just not satified with the size of the diffs across a range of issues important to them and the principles they hold dear as lefties, and who aren't willing to stay silent or be silenced (by efforts like this one) just to benefit from the good graces of those that insult them and their intelligence this way.

WHat's next, BHO didn't choose by his lonesome to use a kill list, issue drilling permits in the arctic, etc, -- a great many things reasonable people can disagree over? If he can't survive politically due to the choices in fact he's made, well, that's political life.

To me that's the most hilarious part about these kinda tirades -- it's almost like you think those that are doing the criticizing are educating people with falsehoods or period, when anyone with any business here discussing or debating the issues should be fully familiar with and have an understanding of them sufficient to form their own opinion that likely won't be influenced negatively unless the facts are there with which to accomplish it. This suggest to me that you think this place is full of impressionable and gullible nincompoops that need to be protected from facts that might cast a bad light on BHO/the dems, lest their full awareness and fear of the rightwingnuts at the gates be overcome and votes are lost to them.

Nobody here as far as I can tell thinks that there's "no real difference" between them, because even the unenthused, disenchanted, disillusioned, etc, with BHO and the dems all say at least they'll vote against Romney as the alternative, which more than indicates their awareness of significant diffs despite the level of dissatisfaction they have for BHO. I've been predicting for going on three years now that the fear of the rising rightwingnuttery would be his salvation, assuming that the repubs didn't find someone to restore some measure of sanity to their party. He was already starting to compile a list of things and disappoints with them and him even then. Your kind around he seem to think that's some kinda deep and dark secret, despite it being evidenced in the erosion of enthusiasm gap, a loss of donors, etc, or even things like this http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/48038023/ns/politics-the_new_york_times/

Is his Keystone approval a product of someones imagination http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/03/obama-defends-oil-record-fast-tracks-keystone-pipeline/ and are you exaggerating about what others have charged in terms of his involvement in potential Mediacre cuts http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madrak/washington-post-how-obama-failed-get-, changing their opposition of that into a charge he's out to destroy in in its entirety? One can reasonably think so, because all those kinda exaggerations fit the narratives of those around here that think all criticisms of him and the dems has some nefarious motive -- like assuring his/the dems election loss, rather than their honest and principled desire to stand in the way of things they don't approve of no matter who is proposing them.

ANd those with dishonest narratives are generally speaking, the first ones to project their guilt of it onto others.

I think people respond, many times, out of frustration RainDog Jul 2012 #1
Center-right and hard-right. Warren Stupidity Jul 2012 #2
+1,000,000 - n/t coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #14
Exactly. Maven Jul 2012 #47
Every Republican I know thinks everyone is as stupid as they are NNN0LHI Jul 2012 #3
The two Parties are closest on Economic Policy. Unfortunately, that's the part of gov't that most Romulox Jul 2012 #4
They aren't close on economic policy at ALL. The Dems have NOTHING resembling the Ryan plan. phleshdef Jul 2012 #36
But on "free trade" with China, or NAFTA, or bailing out banks, or mortgage reform. VERY similar. Romulox Jul 2012 #44
Not all Dems are for the bad free trade bills. phleshdef Jul 2012 #48
Yes, of course RobertEarl Jul 2012 #5
Three Mile Island was much better than Fukushima. hay rick Jul 2012 #13
Oh I think somebody is lying. xchrom Jul 2012 #6
I'd like to see more Democrats stop their support for a capitalistic system... Comrade_McKenzie Jul 2012 #7
Additionally, to believe there's *enough* of a difference in the duopoly to "save" us, villager Jul 2012 #8
The same, no, MadHound Jul 2012 #9
WTF? trixie Jul 2012 #51
They are not getting closer.. what rock are you living under?? DCBob Jul 2012 #55
Major disseminators of this are Icke, Jones, Paulites, 911 Truthers and some Occupy. Not Bill Maher: freshwest Jul 2012 #10
"One states the facts, the other comes very close to playing with their own poop." SunSeeker Jul 2012 #31
Bill Maher doesn't really have a "libertarian" bent. phleshdef Jul 2012 #37
True, but he's still known for it. That's the kind of liberal most Democrats are. The kind of ... freshwest Jul 2012 #38
and this OP will draw them out of the woodwork like flies...enjoy.. dionysus Jul 2012 #11
Remember the head of the Lou Dobbs fan club here about ten years ago? NNN0LHI Jul 2012 #16
Well, nobody here is to Obama's right. immoderate Jul 2012 #28
I guess I miss your point unless it's to be devisive. rhett o rick Jul 2012 #12
x2 AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #25
I settled on clueless whiners Gman Jul 2012 #15
Oh, c'mon Wraith, do you really think there's ANYONE... RevStPatrick Jul 2012 #17
The most ardent anti-globalism people I know drive imported cars NNN0LHI Jul 2012 #18
No. bvar22 Jul 2012 #49
Yep, Fascist right and moderate right. There are no moderate nor certainly any left parties anymore on point Jul 2012 #32
Its easy to paint a false picture and then attack it, when all nuance is thrown out the window quinnox Jul 2012 #19
The difference is that the Republican Party is unified, the Democratic Party is factionalized. joshcryer Jul 2012 #20
Big diff. Mississippi, red state, is about to close the one and only abortion clinic in the state. progressivebydesign Jul 2012 #21
+1.000 freshwest Jul 2012 #35
"the "no difference" spiel gave us George W. Bush instead of Al Gore" CleanLucre Jul 2012 #22
Maybe they are Excalbians Motown_Johnny Jul 2012 #23
Very True Wraith, lying or clueless sums it up treestar Jul 2012 #24
When Big Pharma wanted to come out with a Marijuana Pill... lib2DaBone Jul 2012 #26
Holder busted all of them? All of them?...nt SidDithers Jul 2012 #40
Well said!!! n/t RKP5637 Jul 2012 #27
Or hopeful. Zanzoobar Jul 2012 #29
bravo heaven05 Jul 2012 #30
K&R SunSeeker Jul 2012 #33
ho hum, the same old stuff stupidicus Jul 2012 #34
DU rec... SidDithers Jul 2012 #39
Hey Sid :) SunsetDreams Jul 2012 #41
I agree with Bill Maher: Vote Democratic - "we're lame but the other guys are nuts" Douglas Carpenter Jul 2012 #42
Can I borrow some straw? Bonobo Jul 2012 #43
Unrec for being so ignorant. n/t Dawgs Jul 2012 #45
"Not as bad" is still not good. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2012 #46
The "Centrist" Party Leadership of the Clinton Administration CREATED Nader. bvar22 Jul 2012 #50
Absolutely true. nt Honeycombe8 Jul 2012 #52
Many call themselves Independents. demosincebirth Jul 2012 #53
And the who's who of They're-the-same!1 JNelson6563 Jul 2012 #54
I think those that think that are just impatient.. they want immediate satisfaction. DCBob Jul 2012 #56
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