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8. If all factors were equal, I think those who "work" a little harder would probably tend to do better

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Sun Apr 9, 2017, 02:53 PM

Apr 2017

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in terms of job/economic success. However, there are some jobs where hard work is only going to help you keep that job. If I had continued toting shingles up a ladder for a roofing company, I don't think I would have ever done any better, no matter how many shingles I carried.

However, all factors are not equal. And, a lot of people have a perverted sense of "success." Is harder work "kissing ass?" That certainly leads to success in many cases. Education helps with success nowadays. Often, race and sex become something that one has to overcome to be successful.

It's much more complicated than "how hard you work."

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Americans Are Pretty Skeptical That Hard Work Will Pay Off [View all] Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2017 OP

Hard work greytdemocrat Apr 2017 #1

What a nice fantasy you live in... hunter Apr 2017 #3

Yes and no Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2017 #4

I understand and agree greytdemocrat Apr 2017 #11

What precisely is the relevance of "what you see..."? LanternWaste Apr 2017 #57

If that is true then how the tables have turned LiberalLovinLug Apr 2017 #24

Partly true. Igel Apr 2017 #34

Hard work is one of many factors Orrex Apr 2017 #5

Be sure to choose your parents wisely. n/t PoliticAverse Apr 2017 #15

Yeah, I think that's where I screwed up. Orrex Apr 2017 #20

The article is written in a thoughtful way treestar Apr 2017 #7

Go bootstrap elsewhere. HughBeaumont Apr 2017 #9

+1000 smirkymonkey Apr 2017 #60

You sound just like a Republican. - nt KingCharlemagne Apr 2017 #17

LOLOL look at you Skittles Apr 2017 #18

Or fired simply because they "cost too much". HughBeaumont Apr 2017 #55

Well, it did for me, but then I am a white male baby boomer who PatrickforO Apr 2017 #22

Only if you ignore opportunity and privilege and any lucky breaks IronLionZion Apr 2017 #28

No one works harder than Trump, Kushner, Kardashian tenderfoot Apr 2017 #31

Whining IS for losers. KPN Apr 2017 #33

So do you consider someone who works 3 jobs to be working hard? milestogo Apr 2017 #36

Often true, but I have seen many people who work very hard, Alice11111 Apr 2017 #52

If hard work paid off... hunter Apr 2017 #2

and I woud be wealthy...nt 2naSalit Apr 2017 #25

And that's assuming that our "President" is successful. dchill Apr 2017 #53

The only time I found hard work to payoff is NutmegYankee Apr 2017 #6

Yup. n/t OhZone Apr 2017 #40

I bet you do not do it for a living GulfCoast66 Apr 2017 #43

I was referring to my vegetable gardens in my backyard. NutmegYankee Apr 2017 #44

I pretty well understood your meaning GulfCoast66 Apr 2017 #50

If all factors were equal, I think those who "work" a little harder would probably tend to do better Hoyt Apr 2017 #8

There are different kinds of "hard work." Igel Apr 2017 #35

Hard work these days pays a pittance to make some other bugger rich Warpy Apr 2017 #10

A lot depends on other factors. MineralMan Apr 2017 #12

As a bricklayer for 40+ years, it has been my observation panader0 Apr 2017 #13

My father, a WW II Vet who spent his working years as a pipe-fitter in a factory, crosinski Apr 2017 #21

Exactly, if just hard work made people rich, farm workers would be rich raccoon Apr 2017 #39

yep,working from the neck up pays much better. Go Vols Apr 2017 #49

Location, Location, Location Sen. Walter Sobchak Apr 2017 #14

Learning Johnny2X2X Apr 2017 #16

Because usually, and on its own, it doesn't. CousinIT Apr 2017 #19

Virtually everyone I know works very hard indeed. warmfeet Apr 2017 #23

My father was an aircraft mechanic. Mr.Bill Apr 2017 #26

Plenty of golfing pays off big time though. Kablooie Apr 2017 #27

Working smarter, not harder leads to a better life. roamer65 Apr 2017 #29

Rubbish. If the whole country decided to become stock brokers Warpy Apr 2017 #32

Guess I should have put this below it. roamer65 Apr 2017 #37

Why work hard when your boss makes 150 times more than you ever will? Initech Apr 2017 #30

Umm... what other choice do you have? Not work hard? taught_me_patience Apr 2017 #47

Work hard and be fucked harder - The American Way jpak Apr 2017 #38

+1 dalton99a Apr 2017 #45

I used to work in finance crazycatlady Apr 2017 #41

Not so much now. moondust Apr 2017 #42

Depends on what type of hard work that you're doing. Yavin4 Apr 2017 #46

"Pay off", of course, means 'make me rich'. ronnie624 Apr 2017 #48

Hard work, sometimes, doesn't even result in survival... dchill Apr 2017 #51

They should have taken a long hard look Cha Apr 2017 #54

Wealthy people don't work The Big Ragu Apr 2017 #56

Whether or not hard work "pays off" is up to the wealthy owners. RadiationTherapy Apr 2017 #58

Many younger Americans are not patient enough to let the hard work pay off taught_me_patience Apr 2017 #59