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beam me up scottie

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200. Lol. That blogger is full of crap. Warren, Harris and Gillibrand also got credit as cosponsors.
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 02:31 AM
Apr 2017

First Melissa claims this is Hillary's plan - except it's not.

Bernie wrote legislation for tuition free college two years ago, Hillary followed his lead and created her own plan - which she changed while working with Bernie in July AFTER the primary was over. Both fought for their own plans during the primary and both compromised after it was over.

So no, this isn't just Hillary's plan.

Secondly Melissa lies about Bernie taking the credit - which is bullshit because he's just one of several cosponsors in the senate.

In fact if she had unbunched her panties long enough to watch the video she would have noticed Bernie was joined by senators Elizabeth Warren, Kamala Harris, Richard Blumenthal, Chris Murphy and Kirsten Gillibrand along with their house colleagues - and they introduced the bill TOGETHER.



Sanders introduced the bill in the Senate along with Sens. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), Kamala Harris (D-Calif.), Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.), Chris Murphy (D-Conn.) and Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.). In the House, Reps. Bobby Scott (D-Va.), Keith Ellison (D-Minn.), Raúl Grijalva (D-Ariz.), Rick Nolan (D-Minn.), Barbara Lee (D-Calif.), Sheila Jackson Lee (D-Texas), Ro Khanna (D-Calif.), Eleanor Holmes Norton (D-D.C.), Nydia Velázquez (D-N.Y.), John Conyers (D-Mich.), Peter Welch (D-Vt.), Mark Pocan (D-Wis.), David Cicilline (D-R.I.) and Jamie Raskin (D-Md.) joined Jayapal as co-sponsors of the legislation.



So why is Melissa only venting her outrage at Bernie anyway? Shouldn't she include Warren and the other cosponsors in her rant?

Oh wait - Melissa couldn't include the other senators in her poutrage because then she couldn't pretend this is all about a MAN stealing from a WOMAN

And if Melissa can't keep pitting the sexes against each other before you know it she'll be out of work.


Seriously - what is Bernie supposed to do, quit doing his job and co-introducing legislation because it pisses Melissa off whenever she sees him?

She needs to put on her big girl pants and get over it because Bernie's not going anywhere. And that's fine with Democrats who don't care who's fighting for us as long as they FIGHT. As long as Bernie keeps walking the walk we could care less about whatever sour grapes Melissa is having for dinner.

Let it go Melissa. Seriously, you're embarrassing yourself and Secretary Clinton with your pouting. We have a real enemy out there and his name is Donald Trump. Hillary and Bernie are both doing their part and many other leaders are also fighting tooth and nail for us. It's time to stop trying to vilify them just to get a few clicks.


I have said this before. I liked Bernie, but he is getting on my last nerve right now. redstatebluegirl Apr 2017 #1
Mine too Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2017 #6
+1. Agree 100% ATL Ebony Apr 2017 #76
Welcome to DU, ATL Ebony! calimary Apr 2017 #95
Used to love him, was about his #1 fan, but he is not being helpful now. He's believing his own PR. kerry-is-my-prez Apr 2017 #130
Post removed Post removed Apr 2017 #137
When the opposite is true Cha Apr 2017 #192
Post removed Post removed Apr 2017 #198
Amen Hekate Apr 2017 #18
I would tell you what I really think about him and Thom Eliot Rosewater Apr 2017 #53
Because I'm tired to death of him. trueblue2007 Apr 2017 #70
Love those Castro bros, either one for 2020 will do. ATL Ebony Apr 2017 #78
I like both of the Castro brothers Gothmog Apr 2017 #134
He's been on my nerves for quite some time. calimary Apr 2017 #90
Yes, he's trying and it's working.. he Cha Apr 2017 #195
Agreed-Sanders is getting on my nerves also Gothmog Apr 2017 #132
Is she out talking about her education plan? leftstreet Apr 2017 #2
Why isn't he introducing his own education plan -- the one he insisted was so much better than hers? pnwmom Apr 2017 #4
I don't know. Maybe he's changed his mind? leftstreet Apr 2017 #8
Or maybe criticizing her bill was just politics. He never really meant it. How about that? n/t pnwmom Apr 2017 #9
+1000, that's what it looks like. nt R B Garr Apr 2017 #12
Well, he's a politician. So is she leftstreet Apr 2017 #30
I think that you are correct on this Gothmog Apr 2017 #135
That's exactly it. kcr Apr 2017 #227
That is incorrect. sheshe2 Apr 2017 #23
He actually did many times credit it as Mitt Romey's plan. nt Fla Dem Apr 2017 #83
Really?? I believe he did state he wanted to modify the MA plan and make it nationwide. ATL Ebony Apr 2017 #89
Here's a crazy idea. Baitball Blogger Apr 2017 #10
Some need an enemy LiberalLovinLug Apr 2017 #69
Then why doesn't he credit her, like Obama credited Mitt Romney for the ACA? n/t pnwmom Apr 2017 #74
Because Obama was trying to point out the ridiculousness of looney toon idiot partisans... Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2017 #94
His plan didn't get him the nomination, while Hillary's... Beartracks Apr 2017 #59
Then why did he disparage her plan for over a year? n/t pnwmom Apr 2017 #75
Does it matter that she's not talking about it, at the moment? ATL Ebony Apr 2017 #81
What office does she currently hold? Orrex Apr 2017 #101
She's not in the House or Senate. She DID when she was a candidate. George II Apr 2017 #107
Nope. And the senators who introduced this bill are simply doing their jobs. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #201
She did on the stump, just as she did about needing a individual mandate... moriah Apr 2017 #249
I was also wondering about this Gothmog Apr 2017 #3
I would like an answer to that as well. sheshe2 Apr 2017 #5
Disqus user RoughlyPolished sums up the issue the best. It's worth a read. TheBlackAdder Apr 2017 #7
Yeah, but that kind of thinking is no good at all QC Apr 2017 #17
Yup. It's a Re-hash which zentrum Apr 2017 #143
And the people who put Trump in the White House made sure that won't change. yardwork Apr 2017 #157
Im hoping its because they lost her email address and not to rob her of the credit. caroldansen Apr 2017 #11
That's it. I'm voting for Clinton. When's the primary? Iggo Apr 2017 #13
This is NOW. A man is being given all the credit for a woman's idea. Are you fine with that? pnwmom Apr 2017 #14
Unacceptable! He won't get away with it! When's that damned primary! Iggo Apr 2017 #15
Maybe check RT for date and time! nt JTFrog Apr 2017 #19
I was hoping the Clinton '16 campaign could point me in the right direction. GOTV! Iggo Apr 2017 #27
More like fishing, lol. JTFrog Apr 2017 #28
Why have they gone fishing? They have a primary to win, goddamit! Iggo Apr 2017 #29
It was just a few days ago he introduced her plan. nt R B Garr Apr 2017 #32
Then we still have time! Gotta get ready for that primary! GOTV! Iggo Apr 2017 #166
Tell that to him. There was just a news story on R B Garr Apr 2017 #169
This is about now.. Hillary's plan is the best.. she should Cha Apr 2017 #162
Bernie and Hillary probably aren't as upset as you seem to be The Big Ragu Apr 2017 #22
Your gender is showing. n/t pnwmom Apr 2017 #25
you're showing something The Big Ragu Apr 2017 #26
i am sick and tired of that crap. that is why i don't like him. trueblue2007 Apr 2017 #79
....................... Warren DeMontague Apr 2017 #36
Hahahaha! progressoid Apr 2017 #179
LMAO! beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #202
Damned if he does damned if he doesn't... LakeArenal Apr 2017 #16
Why didn't he introduce his OWN plan, since he insisted it was so much better? pnwmom Apr 2017 #24
Is he getting ALL the credit? No one here is giving him any credit. LakeArenal Apr 2017 #65
He didn't credit Hillary. He just introduced the bill with his name on it, and people here pnwmom Apr 2017 #67
Really, why all the debate on what it's "called", who said what first, a man or a woman... Heartstrings Apr 2017 #131
I was wondering the same thing! unitedwethrive Apr 2017 #20
You don't think people should have free college because you have to pay for others? FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #139
I interpreted it to mean the opposite Ezior Apr 2017 #148
No. I loved Hillarys plan unitedwethrive Apr 2017 #155
Got it, thank you for clarifying FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #158
That's how public education works... LakeArenal Apr 2017 #146
Not surprising, in fact expected. JHan Apr 2017 #21
Sometimes I think Karl Rove is trolling DU-why all the criticism of Bernie,a great public servant diva77 Apr 2017 #31
+1 FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #40
I notice the attacks on Bernie increase RandiFan1290 Apr 2017 #43
Bernie reminded us of his unfair attacks on Hillary when he attacked her just this week pnwmom Apr 2017 #98
Yes, he was Wrong.. and Hillary's plan Cha Apr 2017 #257
I noticed the same thing on Twitter. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #209
What "attacks on Bernie"? I don't/didn't see any. George II Apr 2017 #238
Wow melman Apr 2017 #243
*snort* beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #245
+1 BadgerMom Apr 2017 #46
Agreed - Bernie is the one who is out there doing a great job. womanofthehills Apr 2017 #123
Yeah, great job. Those bills will pass and it will be wonderful! kcr Apr 2017 #222
Why would anyone be upset that our senators are introducing progressive legislation? beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #246
Oui Oui! LakeArenal Apr 2017 #128
+1. joet67 Apr 2017 #48
Bingo! n/t QC Apr 2017 #54
+1 leftstreet Apr 2017 #56
So right LiberalLovinLug Apr 2017 #57
Well, he really ISN'T a Democrat, don'tcha know. pangaia Apr 2017 #61
You should notify Chuck Schumer and/or the Democratic Party Senate Leadership page webmaster Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2017 #118
WHAT???!? klook Apr 2017 #133
Hey there, Bin Sober.. I'm with you on this.... pangaia Apr 2017 #150
Ah ha!! Got me! Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2017 #174
I gotta say, sometimes I can't tell either. pangaia Apr 2017 #175
Here is the function of that position: George II Apr 2017 #239
+ 1 It's always the same people too. nt Quixote1818 Apr 2017 #68
I think cuz he didn't support Hillary like he should have. trueblue2007 Apr 2017 #71
You mean like... FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #140
... progressoid Apr 2017 #184
Those are just pictures. Cha Apr 2017 #193
You have displeased someone bigly - your post was alerted on progree Apr 2017 #73
Nevertheless, she persisted. George II Apr 2017 #106
Nevertheless, she persisted. ....... i love that phrase. trueblue2007 Apr 2017 #182
people and their alert happy tendencies here. Jesus. Both sides, stop it. fuck. nt JCanete Apr 2017 #151
You are 100% right! dae Apr 2017 #77
He was criticizing Hillary just the other day, saying that she didn't address the concerns of pnwmom Apr 2017 #93
Post removed Post removed Apr 2017 #126
Maybe because he deserves it? nikibatts Apr 2017 #111
Very well said MuseRider Apr 2017 #115
If a Bernie supporter Duppers Apr 2017 #124
Yep. OnionPatch Apr 2017 #129
+++++ zentrum Apr 2017 #145
Exactly. This place gets on my last nerve. alarimer Apr 2017 #170
The reason why Bernie gets attacked is simple: ecstatic Apr 2017 #181
i agree with you and wish i could give your post a KICK and RECOMMEND!!!!!! trueblue2007 Apr 2017 #259
This. A million times this. I wish i could rec this post. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #203
I am so glad you posted this! murielm99 Apr 2017 #33
I don't like Bernie and never have. cwydro Apr 2017 #34
Right? nt joet67 Apr 2017 #50
Why indeed? NastyRiffraff Apr 2017 #35
Simply put... Else You Are Mad Apr 2017 #37
Then he needs to be accountable for once and R B Garr Apr 2017 #41
He didn't demonize anyone... Else You Are Mad Apr 2017 #44
Obviously this wasn't "against the people's interests" R B Garr Apr 2017 #49
Who the hell cares as long as it gets done! FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #38
You could fairly call it "their plan" Tom Rinaldo Apr 2017 #39
Bernie who?? Lil Missy Apr 2017 #42
lol, this is actually a very realistic and apt response! R B Garr Apr 2017 #45
+1,000,000,000+ tallahasseedem Apr 2017 #47
Who cares? If it gets done I don't give a shit whose idea it was. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2017 #51
+1000 LiberalLovinLug Apr 2017 #64
On the money pangaia Apr 2017 #176
Good question mcar Apr 2017 #52
In defense of Hillary judesedit Apr 2017 #55
K&R betsuni Apr 2017 #58
"Typical"? saidsimplesimon Apr 2017 #60
What is typical is men getting credit for women's ideas. It happens every day in every sphere. nt pnwmom Apr 2017 #72
pnwmom, you are correct. saidsimplesimon Apr 2017 #82
This butdiduvote Apr 2017 #87
+1 betsuni Apr 2017 #96
Elizabeth Warren and Kirsten Gillibrand cosponsored the bill too. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #204
How phony. They also didn't demonize Clinton over R B Garr Apr 2017 #242
His own plan is "pie in the sky" to the "just say no" Dems LiberalLovinLug Apr 2017 #62
"Its a good thing that actual Democrats in office appreciate his efforts and are willing to work MuseRider Apr 2017 #105
Well said LiberalLovinLug Apr 2017 #109
She could even zentrum Apr 2017 #147
I feel the same way.. Brava! pangaia Apr 2017 #177
K & R SunSeeker Apr 2017 #63
ANOTHER circular firing squad elmac Apr 2017 #66
Yup. Iggo Apr 2017 #88
It sure is ornotna Apr 2017 #144
Brava! George II Apr 2017 #80
Pathetic thread melman Apr 2017 #84
Give it up already... roomtomove Apr 2017 #85
Yup, it's way past time to set this aside and get on 2018 nt riderinthestorm Apr 2017 #136
Who cares who gets 'credit' for a plan that will never get a committee hearing, let alone a vote geek tragedy Apr 2017 #86
Could it be that he's in a position to actually introduce the bill? FailureToCommunicate Apr 2017 #91
Why didn't he introduce his own bill? The one he insisted was SO MUCH BETTER? pnwmom Apr 2017 #99
pnwmom, I notice that there is no answer to that but, " just get over it".... all american girl Apr 2017 #160
It's amazing what you can accomplish when you don't care who gets the credit. theaocp Apr 2017 #92
Why can't you move on? bluedigger Apr 2017 #97
Why doesn't he? Just this week he was criticizing her for not aiming her campaign pnwmom Apr 2017 #100
Because he's still legislating and she's walking in the woods? bluedigger Apr 2017 #103
Hillary's not "walking in the woods".. please try Cha Apr 2017 #152
I think that Bernie is trying to push her plan because it may be more palatable than his. At least secondwind Apr 2017 #102
This is such a sad post. This is what we have to look forward to in 2020. juxtaposed Apr 2017 #104
You know why. nt JTFrog Apr 2017 #108
Maybe giving credit where credit is due is counter-revolutionary. oasis Apr 2017 #110
Has Bernie been asked about this and what is Hillary's take on this? retrowire Apr 2017 #112
sad to see this thread shireen Apr 2017 #113
Not the point. Yes, in politics no ideas are completely original( like Univ Health Care) however JHan Apr 2017 #117
it is not the same plan. You know this. You know she changed it in July. Is it the same as that plan JCanete Apr 2017 #154
You're suggesting at some point Sanders didn't sell college for all regardless of income level? JHan Apr 2017 #159
This isn't incrementalism. Clinton could have simply put the disagreement to bed in the primary JCanete Apr 2017 #163
Nice try but no. JHan Apr 2017 #167
So do I. Nice try but no right back at you. Are you saying she WAS promoting free tuition for people JCanete Apr 2017 #168
Incrementalism was ridiculed because it was R B Garr Apr 2017 #171
Incrementalism was the cry from people who didn't like others trying to promote JCanete Apr 2017 #178
Wrong again. Rejecting incrementalism was a way to reject R B Garr Apr 2017 #199
On what is he backpedaling? I don't get what you are saying he is backpedaling on. JCanete Apr 2017 #212
Well, I dont understand the vicious attack on Sanders shireen Apr 2017 #172
I haven't understood his attacks... JHan Apr 2017 #173
Yup. And Bernie shared credit with his cosponsors. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #206
I know when I want to share credit? I call whatever it is by MY NAME! That thing is MINE MINE MINE kcr Apr 2017 #234
That's nice. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #244
good post, thanks. And thanks to our Senate and House leaders who co-sponsored this bill. JCanete Apr 2017 #247
You're welcome. Everyone should be applauding their efforts at unity. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #252
Yes, Hillary's motto was exactly that: Stronger Together R B Garr Apr 2017 #258
How phony. None of the others demonized Clinton over... R B Garr Apr 2017 #251
"with his cosponsors." NCTraveler May 2018 #260
This is petty and doesn't really matter. zentrum Apr 2017 #114
Maggot is going to start a fucking war between China and NK, and this shit is what we're onecaliberal Apr 2017 #116
Great, yet more Bernie bashing. bekkilyn Apr 2017 #119
he's a man Skittles Apr 2017 #120
+ infinity. nt JTFrog Apr 2017 #121
How I wish this is what was being debated right now. NCTraveler Apr 2017 #122
It's Soviet propaganda TSIAS Apr 2017 #125
Flashback to July 2016: Sanders calls Clinton's education plan "a bold initiative." klook Apr 2017 #127
Because too many of us are desperate for a hero. randome Apr 2017 #138
Well, would you look at this FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #141
oops... JCanete Apr 2017 #153
Yeah, her plan Cha Apr 2017 #194
Let it go. n/t DefenseLawyer Apr 2017 #142
It is not the same plan. Clinton rolled out a new plan early July that was a compromise between JCanete Apr 2017 #149
Hillary's Plan is the best..She should get credit for it.. From the article.. Cha Apr 2017 #156
It wasn't exclusively Hillary's plan FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #161
Shhhhhhhhhhhh!!! QC Apr 2017 #164
So? Hillary gives other people credit.. that's Cha Apr 2017 #185
Some are never happy FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #186
We care.. it's her plan that she credits Cha Apr 2017 #187
I care about who it's going to help, not who invented it FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #188
Hillary's is the Best Plan. We have many Cha Apr 2017 #189
Personally I like both Hillary's and Sanders FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #190
She has nothing to gain from getting credit for her accomplishments.... George II Apr 2017 #236
I'm not talking about "gaining".. just Cha Apr 2017 #256
President Clinton and VP Sanders, I think they made a great team. Sunlei Apr 2017 #165
You are so right, pnwmom. For centuries men have taken credit for women's ideas, discoveries lunamagica Apr 2017 #180
"Where was he when I was trying to get MuseRider Apr 2017 #183
No, she's "not making women look weak" Cha Apr 2017 #191
I disagree. MuseRider Apr 2017 #196
Again.. your charactorization "Whine".. Cha Apr 2017 #197
Oh for God's sakes Cha MuseRider Apr 2017 #217
Oh for god's sake, muserider. BS insults Cha Apr 2017 #253
+1 FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #213
You are incorrect. MuseRider Apr 2017 #233
Whatever.. the OP is Standing up for Strong Cha Apr 2017 #254
Lol. That blogger is full of crap. Warren, Harris and Gillibrand also got credit as cosponsors. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #200
I don not believe that Hillary supported 'free' college education for all. YOHABLO Apr 2017 #205
You are correct. She initially supported something called QC Apr 2017 #216
Breaking: Indian-American woman takes credit for Clinton's plan! Ms. Toad Apr 2017 #207
Nicely done! You totally nailed it! Harris, Gillibrand and Warren also sponsored this bill. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #208
Excellent rebuttal, Ms. Toad. Wish I could rec this. ms liberty Apr 2017 #214
lol nice FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #215
That's right! She's all over the media calling it the Jayapal plan! kcr Apr 2017 #218
Another excellent here MuseRider Apr 2017 #230
Yes, It's Hillary's Plan! Thank you! Cha Apr 2017 #255
Well... Mike Nelson Apr 2017 #210
Better question: Will faux accusations of sexism against Bernie ever get old? redgreenandblue Apr 2017 #211
No, cult of personality is a disorder ... Impedimentus Apr 2017 #221
It's not so much that he's all My Plan! Here it is! with him. kcr Apr 2017 #219
I Admire and Respect Dreamers, Defeatists Trouble Me Impedimentus Apr 2017 #223
I admire dreamers, too. But reality has to play into it, otherwise it's just delusion. kcr Apr 2017 #224
what are you talking about? Based on what? Did he or did he not campaign for Clinton? Did they not JCanete Apr 2017 #248
Blah, blah, blah, blah Impedimentus Apr 2017 #220
Please please can we stop this? You know I was a passionate supporter of Hillary. My passion lead Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #225
You're fine. It's not as if Hillary is out there trying to stir shit up all the time kcr Apr 2017 #226
I wish threads like this one would just go away. Impedimentus Apr 2017 #228
They would go away if getting along didn't have to mean Trumps shoved down our throats. kcr Apr 2017 #229
I'm sorry, but I don't see the logic of your post. Impedimentus Apr 2017 #231
It's probably because you completely ignore the fact that Bernie himself kcr Apr 2017 #232
I understand now. Thanks for the clarification. Impedimentus Apr 2017 #235
I know you're not being sarcastic. I know what sarcasm actually looks like n/t kcr Apr 2017 #237
It is wrong to say, as he just did THIS WEEK, that Trump's deplorable supporters aren't the problem. pnwmom Apr 2017 #241
no sexx tapes . . . enid602 Apr 2017 #240
I think she's used to imitation being the sincerest form of flattery. moriah Apr 2017 #250
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