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172. Well, I dont understand the vicious attack on Sanders

Wed Apr 5, 2017, 10:10 PM

Apr 2017

He's just doing his job.

Nor do I don't pay attention to the crap that's being said about Hillary, Perez, and the present Dem. party. Most reasonable Democrats know it's rubbish.

Oh, I give up ... I'm out of this thread.

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Why are people giving Bernie all the credit for Hillary's education plan? [View all] pnwmom Apr 2017 OP

I have said this before. I liked Bernie, but he is getting on my last nerve right now. redstatebluegirl Apr 2017 #1

Mine too Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2017 #6

+1. Agree 100% ATL Ebony Apr 2017 #76

Welcome to DU, ATL Ebony! calimary Apr 2017 #95

Used to love him, was about his #1 fan, but he is not being helpful now. He's believing his own PR. kerry-is-my-prez Apr 2017 #130

Post removed Post removed Apr 2017 #137

When the opposite is true Cha Apr 2017 #192

Post removed Post removed Apr 2017 #198

Amen Hekate Apr 2017 #18

I would tell you what I really think about him and Thom Eliot Rosewater Apr 2017 #53

Because I'm tired to death of him. trueblue2007 Apr 2017 #70

Love those Castro bros, either one for 2020 will do. ATL Ebony Apr 2017 #78

I like both of the Castro brothers Gothmog Apr 2017 #134

He's been on my nerves for quite some time. calimary Apr 2017 #90

Yes, he's trying and it's working.. he Cha Apr 2017 #195

Agreed-Sanders is getting on my nerves also Gothmog Apr 2017 #132

Is she out talking about her education plan? leftstreet Apr 2017 #2

Why isn't he introducing his own education plan -- the one he insisted was so much better than hers? pnwmom Apr 2017 #4

I don't know. Maybe he's changed his mind? leftstreet Apr 2017 #8

Or maybe criticizing her bill was just politics. He never really meant it. How about that? n/t pnwmom Apr 2017 #9

+1000, that's what it looks like. nt R B Garr Apr 2017 #12

Well, he's a politician. So is she leftstreet Apr 2017 #30

I think that you are correct on this Gothmog Apr 2017 #135

That's exactly it. kcr Apr 2017 #227

That is incorrect. sheshe2 Apr 2017 #23

He actually did many times credit it as Mitt Romey's plan. nt Fla Dem Apr 2017 #83

Really?? I believe he did state he wanted to modify the MA plan and make it nationwide. ATL Ebony Apr 2017 #89

Here's a crazy idea. Baitball Blogger Apr 2017 #10

Some need an enemy LiberalLovinLug Apr 2017 #69

Then why doesn't he credit her, like Obama credited Mitt Romney for the ACA? n/t pnwmom Apr 2017 #74

Because Obama was trying to point out the ridiculousness of looney toon idiot partisans... Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2017 #94

His plan didn't get him the nomination, while Hillary's... Beartracks Apr 2017 #59

Then why did he disparage her plan for over a year? n/t pnwmom Apr 2017 #75

Does it matter that she's not talking about it, at the moment? ATL Ebony Apr 2017 #81

What office does she currently hold? Orrex Apr 2017 #101

She's not in the House or Senate. She DID when she was a candidate. George II Apr 2017 #107

Nope. And the senators who introduced this bill are simply doing their jobs. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #201

She did on the stump, just as she did about needing a individual mandate... moriah Apr 2017 #249

I was also wondering about this Gothmog Apr 2017 #3

I would like an answer to that as well. sheshe2 Apr 2017 #5

Disqus user RoughlyPolished sums up the issue the best. It's worth a read. TheBlackAdder Apr 2017 #7

Yeah, but that kind of thinking is no good at all QC Apr 2017 #17

Yup. It's a Re-hash which zentrum Apr 2017 #143

And the people who put Trump in the White House made sure that won't change. yardwork Apr 2017 #157

Im hoping its because they lost her email address and not to rob her of the credit. caroldansen Apr 2017 #11

That's it. I'm voting for Clinton. When's the primary? Iggo Apr 2017 #13

This is NOW. A man is being given all the credit for a woman's idea. Are you fine with that? pnwmom Apr 2017 #14

Unacceptable! He won't get away with it! When's that damned primary! Iggo Apr 2017 #15

Maybe check RT for date and time! nt JTFrog Apr 2017 #19

I was hoping the Clinton '16 campaign could point me in the right direction. GOTV! Iggo Apr 2017 #27

More like fishing, lol. JTFrog Apr 2017 #28

Why have they gone fishing? They have a primary to win, goddamit! Iggo Apr 2017 #29

It was just a few days ago he introduced her plan. nt R B Garr Apr 2017 #32

Then we still have time! Gotta get ready for that primary! GOTV! Iggo Apr 2017 #166

Tell that to him. There was just a news story on R B Garr Apr 2017 #169

This is about now.. Hillary's plan is the best.. she should Cha Apr 2017 #162

Bernie and Hillary probably aren't as upset as you seem to be The Big Ragu Apr 2017 #22

Your gender is showing. n/t pnwmom Apr 2017 #25

you're showing something The Big Ragu Apr 2017 #26

i am sick and tired of that crap. that is why i don't like him. trueblue2007 Apr 2017 #79

....................... Warren DeMontague Apr 2017 #36

Hahahaha! progressoid Apr 2017 #179

LMAO! beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #202

Damned if he does damned if he doesn't... LakeArenal Apr 2017 #16

Why didn't he introduce his OWN plan, since he insisted it was so much better? pnwmom Apr 2017 #24

Is he getting ALL the credit? No one here is giving him any credit. LakeArenal Apr 2017 #65

He didn't credit Hillary. He just introduced the bill with his name on it, and people here pnwmom Apr 2017 #67

Really, why all the debate on what it's "called", who said what first, a man or a woman... Heartstrings Apr 2017 #131

I was wondering the same thing! unitedwethrive Apr 2017 #20

You don't think people should have free college because you have to pay for others? FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #139

I interpreted it to mean the opposite Ezior Apr 2017 #148

No. I loved Hillarys plan unitedwethrive Apr 2017 #155

Got it, thank you for clarifying FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #158

That's how public education works... LakeArenal Apr 2017 #146

Not surprising, in fact expected. JHan Apr 2017 #21

Sometimes I think Karl Rove is trolling DU-why all the criticism of Bernie,a great public servant diva77 Apr 2017 #31

+1 FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #40

I notice the attacks on Bernie increase RandiFan1290 Apr 2017 #43

Bernie reminded us of his unfair attacks on Hillary when he attacked her just this week pnwmom Apr 2017 #98

Yes, he was Wrong.. and Hillary's plan Cha Apr 2017 #257

I noticed the same thing on Twitter. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #209

What "attacks on Bernie"? I don't/didn't see any. George II Apr 2017 #238

Wow melman Apr 2017 #243

*snort* beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #245

+1 BadgerMom Apr 2017 #46

Agreed - Bernie is the one who is out there doing a great job. womanofthehills Apr 2017 #123

Yeah, great job. Those bills will pass and it will be wonderful! kcr Apr 2017 #222

Why would anyone be upset that our senators are introducing progressive legislation? beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #246

Oui Oui! LakeArenal Apr 2017 #128

+1. joet67 Apr 2017 #48

Bingo! n/t QC Apr 2017 #54

+1 leftstreet Apr 2017 #56

So right LiberalLovinLug Apr 2017 #57

Well, he really ISN'T a Democrat, don'tcha know. pangaia Apr 2017 #61

You should notify Chuck Schumer and/or the Democratic Party Senate Leadership page webmaster Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2017 #118

WHAT???!? klook Apr 2017 #133

Hey there, Bin Sober.. I'm with you on this.... pangaia Apr 2017 #150

Ah ha!! Got me! Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2017 #174

I gotta say, sometimes I can't tell either. pangaia Apr 2017 #175

Here is the function of that position: George II Apr 2017 #239

+ 1 It's always the same people too. nt Quixote1818 Apr 2017 #68

I think cuz he didn't support Hillary like he should have. trueblue2007 Apr 2017 #71

You mean like... FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #140

... progressoid Apr 2017 #184

Those are just pictures. Cha Apr 2017 #193

You have displeased someone bigly - your post was alerted on progree Apr 2017 #73

Nevertheless, she persisted. George II Apr 2017 #106

Nevertheless, she persisted. ....... i love that phrase. trueblue2007 Apr 2017 #182

people and their alert happy tendencies here. Jesus. Both sides, stop it. fuck. nt JCanete Apr 2017 #151

You are 100% right! dae Apr 2017 #77

He was criticizing Hillary just the other day, saying that she didn't address the concerns of pnwmom Apr 2017 #93

Post removed Post removed Apr 2017 #126

Maybe because he deserves it? nikibatts Apr 2017 #111

Very well said MuseRider Apr 2017 #115

If a Bernie supporter Duppers Apr 2017 #124

Yep. OnionPatch Apr 2017 #129

+++++ zentrum Apr 2017 #145

Exactly. This place gets on my last nerve. alarimer Apr 2017 #170

The reason why Bernie gets attacked is simple: ecstatic Apr 2017 #181

i agree with you and wish i could give your post a KICK and RECOMMEND!!!!!! trueblue2007 Apr 2017 #259

This. A million times this. I wish i could rec this post. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #203

I am so glad you posted this! murielm99 Apr 2017 #33

I don't like Bernie and never have. cwydro Apr 2017 #34

Right? nt joet67 Apr 2017 #50

Why indeed? NastyRiffraff Apr 2017 #35

Simply put... Else You Are Mad Apr 2017 #37

Then he needs to be accountable for once and R B Garr Apr 2017 #41

He didn't demonize anyone... Else You Are Mad Apr 2017 #44

Obviously this wasn't "against the people's interests" R B Garr Apr 2017 #49

Who the hell cares as long as it gets done! FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #38

You could fairly call it "their plan" Tom Rinaldo Apr 2017 #39

Bernie who?? Lil Missy Apr 2017 #42

lol, this is actually a very realistic and apt response! R B Garr Apr 2017 #45

+1,000,000,000+ tallahasseedem Apr 2017 #47

Who cares? If it gets done I don't give a shit whose idea it was. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2017 #51

+1000 LiberalLovinLug Apr 2017 #64

On the money pangaia Apr 2017 #176

Good question mcar Apr 2017 #52

In defense of Hillary judesedit Apr 2017 #55

K&R betsuni Apr 2017 #58

"Typical"? saidsimplesimon Apr 2017 #60

What is typical is men getting credit for women's ideas. It happens every day in every sphere. nt pnwmom Apr 2017 #72

pnwmom, you are correct. saidsimplesimon Apr 2017 #82

This butdiduvote Apr 2017 #87

+1 betsuni Apr 2017 #96

Elizabeth Warren and Kirsten Gillibrand cosponsored the bill too. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #204

How phony. They also didn't demonize Clinton over R B Garr Apr 2017 #242

His own plan is "pie in the sky" to the "just say no" Dems LiberalLovinLug Apr 2017 #62

"Its a good thing that actual Democrats in office appreciate his efforts and are willing to work MuseRider Apr 2017 #105

Well said LiberalLovinLug Apr 2017 #109

She could even zentrum Apr 2017 #147

I feel the same way.. Brava! pangaia Apr 2017 #177

K & R SunSeeker Apr 2017 #63

ANOTHER circular firing squad elmac Apr 2017 #66

Yup. Iggo Apr 2017 #88

It sure is ornotna Apr 2017 #144

Brava! George II Apr 2017 #80

Pathetic thread melman Apr 2017 #84

Give it up already... roomtomove Apr 2017 #85

Yup, it's way past time to set this aside and get on 2018 nt riderinthestorm Apr 2017 #136

Who cares who gets 'credit' for a plan that will never get a committee hearing, let alone a vote geek tragedy Apr 2017 #86

Could it be that he's in a position to actually introduce the bill? FailureToCommunicate Apr 2017 #91

Why didn't he introduce his own bill? The one he insisted was SO MUCH BETTER? pnwmom Apr 2017 #99

pnwmom, I notice that there is no answer to that but, " just get over it".... all american girl Apr 2017 #160

It's amazing what you can accomplish when you don't care who gets the credit. theaocp Apr 2017 #92

Why can't you move on? bluedigger Apr 2017 #97

Why doesn't he? Just this week he was criticizing her for not aiming her campaign pnwmom Apr 2017 #100

Because he's still legislating and she's walking in the woods? bluedigger Apr 2017 #103

Hillary's not "walking in the woods".. please try Cha Apr 2017 #152

I think that Bernie is trying to push her plan because it may be more palatable than his. At least secondwind Apr 2017 #102

This is such a sad post. This is what we have to look forward to in 2020. juxtaposed Apr 2017 #104

You know why. nt JTFrog Apr 2017 #108

Maybe giving credit where credit is due is counter-revolutionary. oasis Apr 2017 #110

Has Bernie been asked about this and what is Hillary's take on this? retrowire Apr 2017 #112

sad to see this thread shireen Apr 2017 #113

Not the point. Yes, in politics no ideas are completely original( like Univ Health Care) however JHan Apr 2017 #117

it is not the same plan. You know this. You know she changed it in July. Is it the same as that plan JCanete Apr 2017 #154

You're suggesting at some point Sanders didn't sell college for all regardless of income level? JHan Apr 2017 #159

This isn't incrementalism. Clinton could have simply put the disagreement to bed in the primary JCanete Apr 2017 #163

Nice try but no. JHan Apr 2017 #167

So do I. Nice try but no right back at you. Are you saying she WAS promoting free tuition for people JCanete Apr 2017 #168

Incrementalism was ridiculed because it was R B Garr Apr 2017 #171

Incrementalism was the cry from people who didn't like others trying to promote JCanete Apr 2017 #178

Wrong again. Rejecting incrementalism was a way to reject R B Garr Apr 2017 #199

On what is he backpedaling? I don't get what you are saying he is backpedaling on. JCanete Apr 2017 #212

Well, I dont understand the vicious attack on Sanders shireen Apr 2017 #172

I haven't understood his attacks... JHan Apr 2017 #173

Yup. And Bernie shared credit with his cosponsors. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #206

I know when I want to share credit? I call whatever it is by MY NAME! That thing is MINE MINE MINE kcr Apr 2017 #234

That's nice. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #244

good post, thanks. And thanks to our Senate and House leaders who co-sponsored this bill. JCanete Apr 2017 #247

You're welcome. Everyone should be applauding their efforts at unity. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #252

Yes, Hillary's motto was exactly that: Stronger Together R B Garr Apr 2017 #258

How phony. None of the others demonized Clinton over... R B Garr Apr 2017 #251

"with his cosponsors." NCTraveler May 2018 #260

This is petty and doesn't really matter. zentrum Apr 2017 #114

Maggot is going to start a fucking war between China and NK, and this shit is what we're onecaliberal Apr 2017 #116

Great, yet more Bernie bashing. bekkilyn Apr 2017 #119

he's a man Skittles Apr 2017 #120

+ infinity. nt JTFrog Apr 2017 #121

How I wish this is what was being debated right now. NCTraveler Apr 2017 #122

It's Soviet propaganda TSIAS Apr 2017 #125

Flashback to July 2016: Sanders calls Clinton's education plan "a bold initiative." klook Apr 2017 #127

Because too many of us are desperate for a hero. randome Apr 2017 #138

Well, would you look at this FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #141

oops... JCanete Apr 2017 #153

Yeah, her plan Cha Apr 2017 #194

Let it go. n/t DefenseLawyer Apr 2017 #142

It is not the same plan. Clinton rolled out a new plan early July that was a compromise between JCanete Apr 2017 #149

Hillary's Plan is the best..She should get credit for it.. From the article.. Cha Apr 2017 #156

It wasn't exclusively Hillary's plan FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #161

Shhhhhhhhhhhh!!! QC Apr 2017 #164

So? Hillary gives other people credit.. that's Cha Apr 2017 #185

Some are never happy FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #186

We care.. it's her plan that she credits Cha Apr 2017 #187

I care about who it's going to help, not who invented it FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #188

Hillary's is the Best Plan. We have many Cha Apr 2017 #189

Personally I like both Hillary's and Sanders FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #190

She has nothing to gain from getting credit for her accomplishments.... George II Apr 2017 #236

I'm not talking about "gaining".. just Cha Apr 2017 #256

President Clinton and VP Sanders, I think they made a great team. Sunlei Apr 2017 #165

You are so right, pnwmom. For centuries men have taken credit for women's ideas, discoveries lunamagica Apr 2017 #180

"Where was he when I was trying to get MuseRider Apr 2017 #183

No, she's "not making women look weak" Cha Apr 2017 #191

I disagree. MuseRider Apr 2017 #196

Again.. your charactorization "Whine".. Cha Apr 2017 #197

Oh for God's sakes Cha MuseRider Apr 2017 #217

Oh for god's sake, muserider. BS insults Cha Apr 2017 #253

+1 FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #213

You are incorrect. MuseRider Apr 2017 #233

Whatever.. the OP is Standing up for Strong Cha Apr 2017 #254

Lol. That blogger is full of crap. Warren, Harris and Gillibrand also got credit as cosponsors. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #200

I don not believe that Hillary supported 'free' college education for all. YOHABLO Apr 2017 #205

You are correct. She initially supported something called QC Apr 2017 #216

Breaking: Indian-American woman takes credit for Clinton's plan! Ms. Toad Apr 2017 #207

Nicely done! You totally nailed it! Harris, Gillibrand and Warren also sponsored this bill. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #208

Excellent rebuttal, Ms. Toad. Wish I could rec this. ms liberty Apr 2017 #214

lol nice FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #215

That's right! She's all over the media calling it the Jayapal plan! kcr Apr 2017 #218

Another excellent here MuseRider Apr 2017 #230

Yes, It's Hillary's Plan! Thank you! Cha Apr 2017 #255

Well... Mike Nelson Apr 2017 #210

Better question: Will faux accusations of sexism against Bernie ever get old? redgreenandblue Apr 2017 #211

No, cult of personality is a disorder ... Impedimentus Apr 2017 #221

It's not so much that he's all My Plan! Here it is! with him. kcr Apr 2017 #219

I Admire and Respect Dreamers, Defeatists Trouble Me Impedimentus Apr 2017 #223

I admire dreamers, too. But reality has to play into it, otherwise it's just delusion. kcr Apr 2017 #224

what are you talking about? Based on what? Did he or did he not campaign for Clinton? Did they not JCanete Apr 2017 #248

Blah, blah, blah, blah Impedimentus Apr 2017 #220

Please please can we stop this? You know I was a passionate supporter of Hillary. My passion lead Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #225

You're fine. It's not as if Hillary is out there trying to stir shit up all the time kcr Apr 2017 #226

I wish threads like this one would just go away. Impedimentus Apr 2017 #228

They would go away if getting along didn't have to mean Trumps shoved down our throats. kcr Apr 2017 #229

I'm sorry, but I don't see the logic of your post. Impedimentus Apr 2017 #231

It's probably because you completely ignore the fact that Bernie himself kcr Apr 2017 #232

I understand now. Thanks for the clarification. Impedimentus Apr 2017 #235

I know you're not being sarcastic. I know what sarcasm actually looks like n/t kcr Apr 2017 #237

It is wrong to say, as he just did THIS WEEK, that Trump's deplorable supporters aren't the problem. pnwmom Apr 2017 #241

no sexx tapes . . . enid602 Apr 2017 #240

I think she's used to imitation being the sincerest form of flattery. moriah Apr 2017 #250