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Showing Original Post only (View all)So many of us have been accused on here of wanting a Glorious Revolution. Let's get out with it! [View all]
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Got "TL DR" looking at this? No problem, it happens to everyone. Just go straight to the end for the short message.I don't know of anyone here who wants a "Glorious Revolution", most likely referring to the 1917 Bolshevik-style revolution that resulted in the bloodiest dictatorship in history. Someone in another thread (link added since people believe I'm lying) accused some DUers of wanting this, but I doubt any such examples will ever be found. I for one am a fan of a FAR less tragic French Revolution, actually. Or maybe, as other posters in this very thread have mentioned, a rebellion like that which overthrew King James II.
But none of that is going to happen. Why?
Well, let's start with the fact that Democrats, unlike Republicans, turn on each other at the drop of a hat, and stay at each other's throats constantly. Take, for instance, this new bullshit - er, old McCarthyist bullshit claim resurrected like some bloody old zombie - that some of us want a BOLSHEVIK REVOLUTION, mass death and chaos and all of that.
So let me explain what is going to happen to America instead.
Let's start with what's happening now. Occupy protesters are out there protesting for the interests of the working class. There are, according to some reports, 72 million registered Democrats. If even 1/10th of us cared about Occupy Wall Street enough to join them, there would be 7.2 million additional Occupiers out there. We could outsize the largest record-breaking protests in history if we took action and supported Occupy. But we don't. Instead, what's happening is Occupy is getting their asses beat bloody and raw by the police gangs. NYC Mayor Bloomberg is sitting comfortable while bragging that he has the world's 7th largest army. Police are sitting on their law enforcement forums bragging about beating Occupiers or cheering on others who do.
Meanwhile, we sit on the DU and whine about it, but do we see even 1/10th of our numbers out there? Nope. Probably not even 1/100, given the size of the Occupy protests.
There will be no Bolshevik Revolution. There won't even be a French Revolution. We couldn't even stage a voters' revolution in the 2010 elections. Hell, we couldn't even take out Scott Walker.
Those of us who are being painted as anarchists here want war and chaos? Nope, not gonna happen. Here's what is coming instead.
Food prices are going to keep skyrocketing. Water is going to become more and more scarce and the Plutocrats, like the Bushes, are going to keep purchasing water access rights. Everything you pay for is going to go up in price, unlike your wages. The Plutocrats' think tanks are even predicting a global resource crisis by 2030. They've stamped an execution date right on your ass.
Oh, there'll be a crisis alright. For the 99%, not the 1%. Oh I know, some say that when that day comes the 1% will get swept up in it. But that would mean war and chaos and revolution, right? And we all know that's just a Bolshevik anarchist wet dream. We just decided that we don't want that, didn't we?
Nope, instead we're going to be stuck with food shortages, health care that will get yanked back out of reach (and if the ACA evolves positively, we'll be hit with a manufactured shortage of doctors - and they're already talking about making that happen), a ruined transportation and electricity infrastructure that the Republicans have made a mockery out of us when we try to fund it adequately, and water supplies increasingly poisoned hydraulic fracking.
Meanwhile the Democrats are going to be arguing over whether one group is a bunch of revolutionary anarchists, with some folks taking a giant frosty piss on the graves of every oppressed peasant and worker who ever took to armed rebellion in the past by likening them all to bloody Stalinists. America will become little better than Mexico, which has been a hellish Plutonomy for the last 100 years.
Hell yes, I'd like to see this future averted by a French Revolution. The Plutocracy needs it burned into their psyche that bad things happen to those who try to turn the working class into disposable serfs. However I'll be happy to accept a voter revolt that overcomes the Diebold firewall and overthrows the Plutocracy in favor of a nation of laws that favor workers' rights.
In short:
TO HELL with "small, incremental solutions". WE NEED MAJOR, RADICAL CHANGES to save this country! We have Stage-4 societal CANCER and we need CHEMOTHERAPY.
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So many of us have been accused on here of wanting a Glorious Revolution. Let's get out with it! [View all]
Zalatix
Jun 2012
OP
I wanna take this serious but the other day you posted that being gay was a choice and now I can't
FarLeftFist
Jun 2012
#2
People should avoid you then, if they don't want to suffer from mesothelioma. You're toxic!
MADem
Jun 2012
#9
I think everyone's prices for everything--except, perhaps, real estate--are more expensive.
MADem
Jun 2012
#69
The "Glorious Revolution" was something quite different to the French Revolution.
Spider Jerusalem
Jun 2012
#13
The "Glorious Revolution" that was mentioned in the other thread referred to the Russian one.
Zalatix
Jun 2012
#16
"This economy is rapidly approaching a point where it doesn't even need 95% of the population."
CleanLucre
Jun 2012
#108
To hell with small, incremental changes. WE NEED IMMEDIATE AND RADICAL CHANGE!
Zalatix
Jul 2012
#156
LOL thanks for showing that you have nothing to back up your ridiculous argument.
Zalatix
Jul 2012
#165
Very interesting discussion here. I have no skin in the personal side of this back and forth, so I
Laura PourMeADrink
Jun 2012
#38
Ah...good idea...a 100% personal-free exchange of ideas forum. For that matter
Laura PourMeADrink
Jun 2012
#112
Summer Hathaway is away right now trying to find examples of those 'incremental steps'
Zalatix
Jun 2012
#127
Rec list suggests that 14 people say I pwned Summer Hathaway. Bet that hurts you a lot.
Zalatix
Jun 2012
#128
Oh quit your whining about a lack of unrec. Besides, your champion has scurried off anyway.
Zalatix
Jun 2012
#134
we seem to have a disconnect here. you're the one getting all angy and i'm the one laughing...
dionysus
Jul 2012
#144
Meanwhile, "Every day, almost 16,000 children die from hunger-related causes. That's
Zorra
Jun 2012
#76
Yes, I agree. My point was some of us were being accused of wanting the 1917 Russian revolution
Zalatix
Jun 2012
#22
I thought it was embarrassing that you thought the Glorious Revolution referred to the Bolsheviks
alcibiades_mystery
Jun 2012
#44
Considering the context in which it was mentioned, and the responses that came from others
Zalatix
Jun 2012
#47
I'll tell ya what... if we can put an end to campaign contributions, we almost win it ALL.
Zalatix
Jun 2012
#90
Hell if I know. I can't figure out why the Democrats don't come out en masse for Occupy.
Zalatix
Jun 2012
#101
And now character assassinations are a new weapon to use against true liberals.
Zalatix
Jul 2012
#150
OK. Still, its results were purely reactionary, and helped create the "British Empire".
Ken Burch
Jun 2012
#121
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable" -JFK
Fumesucker
Jun 2012
#25
History shows that sooner or later there is an uprising against the oppressor.
hobbit709
Jun 2012
#28
However, we were successful in making great change becuase of those social movements!!!!
robinlynne
Jun 2012
#109
I don't think it's *possible* to know what is meant by the phrase "Glorious Revolution".
Occulus
Jun 2012
#63
not the OP. he/she is referring to disgusting OP written yesterday, which called 1917 the glorious
robinlynne
Jun 2012
#111
Take off the rose colored blinder glasses and you might be able to see the numbers on TV.
Zalatix
Jun 2012
#43
You will never be able claim that I am factually wrong. You have no counter argument.
Zalatix
Jun 2012
#75
Well, I just did. And what I said is 100% correct, too. You can't refute anything I said.
Zalatix
Jun 2012
#86
I'd like to look more closely at what happened in the Scandinavian countries
Lydia Leftcoast
Jun 2012
#70
If you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao, you ain't gonna make it with anyone, anyhow
MjolnirTime
Jun 2012
#77
If you're going to quote Lennon, you should know that he later admitted he regretted those lyrics.
white_wolf
Jun 2012
#80
Wow. Thanks, I never knew that, w_w. You may find this Rolling Stone interview with John
Zorra
Jun 2012
#82
Yes, The 1% Plan Is To Make Life So Miserable That The 99% Turn On Each Other
cantbeserious
Jun 2012
#130