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Hortensis

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37. No silver here. The end goal is END TO COMPULSORY EDUCATION.
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 06:01 AM
Feb 2017

Last edited Thu Feb 23, 2017, 06:38 AM - Edit history (1)

Eliminating public school funding is just a beginning. Nobody would be forcing anyone to educate their children.

And after that would come an enormous social sifting out and establishment of a very large permanently impoverished class of people who would need years of remedial schooling as adults in order to compete for basic jobs in a college-level world.

The Federalist: Compulsory education is simply impossible to reconcile with a free people, which is presumably why it is enforced so strictly in places like Greece and Serbia. In the United States—a nation, one recalls, where liberty is held to be not merely vital but inalienable—it is altogether puzzling and dismaying that it ever reared its ugly head, or that it ever became an acceptable state of affairs.


Some advocacy group: "Why should we end compulsory education? Because the principles of freedom under the U.S. Constitution demand it."


The Kochs' platform when David Koch ran for president included:
“We oppose all personal and corporate income taxation, including capital gains taxes.”
“We support the eventual repeal of all taxation.”
“We condemn compulsory education laws … and we call for the immediate repeal of such laws.”


Charles Koch: "The only legitimate roles of government are protection of person and property."


As for home schooling as an answer for any but the most committed: Why would parents who have to be forced to be "involved" be good, or even almost adequate, at whatever degree of involvement they manage? Sure some people would do a good job with their own children. But generally speaking, teaching is no more a job for amateurs than being an accountant is. The decline in achievement nationally would be enormous.

And let's not leave off the table that a very substantial percentage of us are below average in intellectual abilities. A person who never "got" long division long ago is not going to be able to teach it, much less whatever strange and incomprehensible method may have replaced it.

Plus there's the little issue of personality and lack of intellectual interest. Millions of kids don't graduate high school unable to say how many senators each state sends to congress because they weren't taught that. They were, a number of times. A main reason they didn't pay attention and didn't bother to remember is that the parents raising them "taught" them that this stuff isn't important. These are going to be the teachers?


and here are your Sponsors and CoSponsors.. pkdu Feb 2017 #1
K & R for exposure. SunSeeker Feb 2017 #2
Yes, eliminating public education altogether is a Hortensis Feb 2017 #40
If the vile Andy Harris is involved, it's bound to be a sleazefest. nt eppur_se_muova Feb 2017 #3
Oh, Steve King bathes in sleaze every day Bettie Feb 2017 #29
More $$$$$$$$$$$$ bdamomma Feb 2017 #4
The silver lining in all this ProudLib72 Feb 2017 #5
Not force, but give them greedy ideas radical noodle Feb 2017 #12
Home schooled Bear Creek Feb 2017 #36
Some kids are not college material radical noodle Feb 2017 #41
Hey Bear Creek Feb 2017 #43
Plumbers, HVAC, and radical noodle Feb 2017 #44
Sorry Bear Creek Feb 2017 #45
Don't know about everywhere radical noodle Feb 2017 #46
You are VERY optimistic, some parents care about education, others REALLY don't, they're too self NotThisTime Feb 2017 #25
No silver here. The end goal is END TO COMPULSORY EDUCATION. Hortensis Feb 2017 #37
But the real attack will be the lack of fed/state funding for the 2017-18 school year. lindysalsagal Feb 2017 #6
Big attack for a big plan: Ending compulsory education altogether. Hortensis Feb 2017 #38
KnR sheshe2 Feb 2017 #7
Good! Hope they all tell their friends and family, Hortensis Feb 2017 #39
Knr AgadorSparticus Feb 2017 #8
Kick nt zentrum Feb 2017 #9
K & R BadgerMom Feb 2017 #10
Text and link Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2017 #11
What even qualifies a state to receive a block grant? NotThisTime Feb 2017 #27
Bet that it would have something to do with allowing out of state "Alternative Education" options. haele Feb 2017 #31
K and R oasis Feb 2017 #13
The voucher money is just the 'free lunch.' Mr. Evil Feb 2017 #14
And even if they impeach dump tomorrow this will still go on Merlot Feb 2017 #15
K&R this is god-awful n/t secondwind Feb 2017 #16
K & R BadgerMom Feb 2017 #17
All of it lunasun Feb 2017 #19
So It Begins - The Assault Sebasdad22 Feb 2017 #18
REPEAL & REPLACE (Also known as MIDTERM elections) Lucinda Feb 2017 #20
K&R Kimchijeon Feb 2017 #21
They don't care that Americans will be too stupid to Ilsa Feb 2017 #22
How do we stop this? Ilsa Feb 2017 #23
Would this bill override State laws? Tracer Feb 2017 #24
Assault on Education has been going on for years... Wounded Bear Feb 2017 #26
If you pass education fully to the states, it ends up like medicare expansion in Republican states Doodley Feb 2017 #28
Because a stupid population will continue to vote for greedy politicians. -nt CrispyQ Feb 2017 #30
K&R... spanone Feb 2017 #32
K&R smirkymonkey Feb 2017 #33
Steal from the public workinclasszero Feb 2017 #34
Demtenjeep, wondering if your fellow teacher wrote the analysis, or . . . Gurney Feb 2017 #35
I don't know demtenjeep Feb 2017 #42
Kickage MrScorpio Feb 2017 #47
Kansas has been experiencing the educational squeeze for years now. It has been 9 years demtenjeep Feb 2017 #48
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