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kentuck

(111,098 posts)
Sun Jun 24, 2012, 01:37 PM Jun 2012

Taxes are the price we pay for a civilized society. [View all]


That is a quote attributed to Oliver Wendell Holmes.

He also said, "A word is not a crystal, transparent and unchanging, it is the skin of a living thought and may vary greatly in colour and content according to the circumstances and time in which it is used."

But if we look at taxes in today's context, we have to question whether or not we are paying enough for a "civilized society" or if our society is deteriorating from lack of attention? Is everyone paying his or her fair share of taxes?

I suppose it would all depend on what type of society we would want?

Personally, I see little value in wealth if it is not to make society better. I want the best roads, the best rapid transit, the best schools, the best jobs, the best workers, the best of everything. What other purpose could we possibly want with wealth, unless it would be for personal greed or aggrandizement? And would that be favorable or good for a society? In my opinion, that would be negative and bad for our society and something we should discourage as a democracy.

Therefore, it is bad for us as a society to put a limit on how much wealthy people should pay in taxes. It is detrimental to say the top limit should be 39%. It is anti-democratic for a society to favor the wealthy in such a way, in my humble opinion.

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And the higher taxes are, the more civilized you can be. nt bemildred Jun 2012 #1
SOAK THE RICH!! deaniac21 Jun 2012 #2
How about requiring they pay what they can afford. Just like the rest of us. The Wielding Truth Jun 2012 #3
I say SOAK THE RICH. deaniac21 Jun 2012 #34
Amen! They are reverse Robin Hoods! Initech Jun 2012 #36
Exactly, and it means everyone lives a more TBF Jun 2012 #4
In our case, Taxes are the price we pay for corrupt politicians, criminal corporations, and wars. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2012 #5
If so, we're not getting our money's worth. AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #6
Maybe that is something we could work on with the Tea Partiers? kentuck Jun 2012 #9
Maybe? Not a chance. AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #16
Maybe you are correct? kentuck Jun 2012 #17
Wealth = incentive to create economic activity. dkf Jun 2012 #7
For greedy people... kentuck Jun 2012 #8
Look at everything you own, watch, or read and ask yourself when the person responsible for that had dkf Jun 2012 #10
Contrary to what you may think... kentuck Jun 2012 #11
They expensed everything and had loopholes large enough to drive trucks through. dkf Jun 2012 #14
Corporations suck. kentuck Jun 2012 #15
Their drive to make a profit makes my life better. It gets me access to things I enjoy. dkf Jun 2012 #18
But most American innovation was accomplished under higher tax rates. CJCRANE Jun 2012 #20
Very eloquent. In the past, that was true. But currently when the super-rich can increase their AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #23
You believe in all of the magic Tsiyu Jun 2012 #26
The purpose is one thing, but what they do to get there is another bhikkhu Jun 2012 #22
That's how it used to work laundry_queen Jun 2012 #28
Exactly, higher tax rates on the rich => more spending and more investment in... CJCRANE Jun 2012 #19
Plus laundry_queen Jun 2012 #29
Society and infrastructure = the ability to create economic activity. n/t lumberjack_jeff Jun 2012 #13
The problem is wealth is no longer derived just by making things One of the 99 Jun 2012 #25
Taxes are the price we pay for strip searches at the airport and predator drones in Afghanistan. n/t lumberjack_jeff Jun 2012 #12
taxes are how congress criminals get paid. spanone Jun 2012 #21
One of my favorite quotes. nt eppur_se_muova Jun 2012 #24
Freedom isn't free. gulliver Jun 2012 #27
"...undermine people's faith in the whole American system..." kentuck Jun 2012 #30
I agree with your OP completely. gulliver Jun 2012 #31
I thought that was what you meant. kentuck Jun 2012 #32
And corporate taxes are the price Shankapotomus Jun 2012 #33
hey john89 Jun 2012 #35
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