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In reply to the discussion: Rural living. [View all]Locrian
(4,523 posts)190. exactly - great post
The narrative trying to portray BLM as thugs or domestic terrorists is designed to scare those who aren't there first hand to see the reality, to keep them in racial and cultural blinders. We need a way to overcome that.
Divide and conquer are the tools that tyrants and authoritarians have always used. It's stunning to see people on BOTH sides that do.not. get. it.
One things for sure - we ALL better start GETTING it. With climate change, resources, war, etc looming large - we're not going to make it as a species if we just keep calling each other names. Maybe that means the "smarter' ones take it on themselves to start finding a way to build bridges instead of walls.
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If most rural Americans didn't constantly vote against their best interests ...
LonePirate
Dec 2016
#1
I suspect most people vote for candidates who they THINK is in their best interest.
Buckeye_Democrat
Dec 2016
#6
Keep in mind that some view at least some of those programs as the REASON for economic woes.
MadDAsHell
Dec 2016
#56
I refuse to respect any voter who supports racism, misogyny, homophobia, xenophobia, etc.
LonePirate
Dec 2016
#146
and the fact that these voters vote Republican doesn't mean they support those things.
kwassa
Dec 2016
#150
Except those issues were the key issues on the Republican side of this past presidential campaign.
LonePirate
Dec 2016
#151
Most voters who were worried about the economy voted for Hillary, not Trump...
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2016
#167
Evidence for this? Exit polls on election night contradict what you said. n/t
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2016
#238
No amount of marketing will reach them. They chose the racist who will take their health care.
LonePirate
Dec 2016
#210
No amount of trying will persuade people who are only interested in destruction and ignorance.
LonePirate
Dec 2016
#214
You seem to think they can be reached. I don't think they can be reached, hence an impasse.
LonePirate
Dec 2016
#217
Ask that question a year from now when they lose their health care and Social Security.
LonePirate
Dec 2016
#41
I have zero interest in changing rural America so that they join the rest of us in the 21st century.
LonePirate
Dec 2016
#48
Nope. Unlike them I am more than happy to let them live by their rules in their backwards USA.
LonePirate
Dec 2016
#61
They could act like they are not a different species by joining the rest of us in 2016 America.
LonePirate
Dec 2016
#252
".....and there is a monumental amount of stupidity firmly entrenched in rural America nowadays."
pablo_marmol
Dec 2016
#59
The people who elected him. Don't forget Hitler won a clear plurality in the 1933 election.
DemocratSinceBirth
Dec 2016
#119
Someone needs to given how they think their best interests include bigotry, early deaths ...
LonePirate
Dec 2016
#52
They ARE voting for their interests if their interest is keeping black and other minorites down
JI7
Dec 2016
#55
Just another reason why we shouldn't bother with them. They are a lost cause.
LonePirate
Dec 2016
#57
yeah, but this goes for people in rural and city areas . i don't care where they are from
JI7
Dec 2016
#58
Please elaborate. Do you really think rural Americans vote for their best interests?
LonePirate
Dec 2016
#144
Rural Americans shouldn't support politicians who represent the worst of America.
LonePirate
Dec 2016
#175
Evidently maintaining the health & welfare of oneself, one's family & the planet is an urban ideal.
LonePirate
Dec 2016
#198
Perhaps its because I live in St. Louis, a city that was eviserated by white flight...
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2016
#204
The vast majority of rural America does not think or see things like you do.
LonePirate
Dec 2016
#202
You may care but rural America's decades long voting streak for Republicans says otherwise.
LonePirate
Dec 2016
#242
They no longer have any scapegoats come January 20 so maybe they will finally see the light.
LonePirate
Dec 2016
#245
This mindset is exactly why we will continue to take beatings as we have recently...
Uggwearingdad
Dec 2016
#250
You've made that clear....."253. I don't agree that rural Americans know the cause of their ills."
Uggwearingdad
Dec 2016
#254
They were offered a reasonable solution this year. They rejected it in favor of bigotry and lies.
LonePirate
Dec 2016
#256
Hey...you can live with that vision of those that don't see things your way...
Uggwearingdad
Dec 2016
#259
Except they didn't realize the answer to his question was health care, Social Security & the planet.
LonePirate
Dec 2016
#212
I don't see that many people feeding the city slicker/country bumpkin stereotyping
Warpy
Dec 2016
#8
This is an interesting observation. I haven't seen that stereotyping either until after the
Squinch
Dec 2016
#92
I recall reading at least one post thst was titled something like f'k the white rural voter.
CentralMass
Dec 2016
#84
I know. Did you catch the insinuation in the OP that he and his rural
Dark n Stormy Knight
Dec 2016
#122
Yes and it is not something when you live so close to others you would even think to highlight
lunasun
Dec 2016
#171
Great post. My ancestor fought at Gettysburg with the Pennsylvania Bucktails ....
kwassa
Dec 2016
#149
If the fact they feel insulted makes them vote against the future of their children,
Darkhawk32
Dec 2016
#35
"It really does hurt to see so much disdain for rural America on a forum like this."
pablo_marmol
Dec 2016
#47
The Democratic Party used to be known for helping the little guy in the small towns.
MadDAsHell
Dec 2016
#45
"they" are people who voted for Trump. This includes those who live in cities and anywhere else
JI7
Dec 2016
#69
So what's your point? It really has nothing to do with the OP now, does it? NT
pablo_marmol
Dec 2016
#71
my point is that racism is a HUGE part of their support for Trump and all the elites crap is bs
JI7
Dec 2016
#73
The racists trump voters I know in are far to Violent for Rational Thoughts.
stonecutter357
Dec 2016
#110
And of course your anecdotal experience is reflective of the entire nation.
pablo_marmol
Dec 2016
#159
+1, why are some ignoring the empirical data on Benedict Donald stoking racial animus to win? Obama
uponit7771
Dec 2016
#104
They voted for Trump because he's a white male and stoked racial animus ... period. There are no ...
uponit7771
Dec 2016
#103
Lol! It still does that. It's just that those little guys now like to vote for the Republican
Squinch
Dec 2016
#91
Trump didn't just arrive on the scene. he has been pushing Birther crap during Obama's entire
JI7
Dec 2016
#67
fuck anyone who voted for Trump. no matter where they live . and they did it over shared bigotry
JI7
Dec 2016
#72
i get what the OP is doing. but the OP doesn't want to acknowledge the real reason they supported
JI7
Dec 2016
#76
Hillary Clinton didn't attack others as hicks or rednecks. but TRump DID attack others
JI7
Dec 2016
#88
These are some of the same people who voted for Obama... of course Obama wasn't running against
uponit7771
Dec 2016
#106
Well, you know. Apparently not mowing down the pedestrians in the parking lot is
Squinch
Dec 2016
#134
The racists trump voters I know in are far to Violent for Rational Thoughts.
stonecutter357
Dec 2016
#108
Indeed. Laughing, because we too built a temp waterline to the neighbor's when their well failed
Yo_Mama
Dec 2016
#112
Cwydro, you know I love you, but I'm sorry I have to say this. Look at your post.
Squinch
Dec 2016
#115
Your own post disses urbanites. I don't see it as a big deal, but apparently when it goes the other
Squinch
Dec 2016
#133
Fuck em,I hope the stupid fucks suffer all the misery their racism and sexism deserves.
libtodeath
Dec 2016
#116
As if a vote for Trump was not a vote for their group's wants, needs, and prejudices,
Dark n Stormy Knight
Dec 2016
#184
I am not looking for a scapegoat, I'm looking for facts to explain the outcome of the election.
Dark n Stormy Knight
Dec 2016
#235
One more time: those for whom the economy and jobs were the most important issue
Squinch
Dec 2016
#183
My point is more of those in superior social position defining those of lesser position as
PufPuf23
Dec 2016
#179
Frankly speaking, as this election shows, rural whites have far too much political power...
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2016
#199
LOLOLOL!!!!! NO, you're wrong. The "big part of what has gone so wrong" are the imbeciles
Squinch
Dec 2016
#218
We lose rural america because of the gun issue and the misinformation that surrounds it.
TrekLuver
Dec 2016
#145
I am guilty of it. However, same could be said of rural folks attitudes towards city slickers.
Missn-Hitch
Dec 2016
#147
I'm assuming at least 90% of your neighbors are of a single color, is that right? n/t
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2016
#177
True, I've been to rural and near rural places where, being white, I end up witnessing...
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2016
#185
But, hatrack, you DO run down pedestrians in parking lots, don't you? Because if
Squinch
Dec 2016
#189
Do white people plow their black neighbor's driveway too where you live?
resistance2016
Dec 2016
#180
I think the implication is the rural conformity excludes LGBT people, whereas the conformity in...
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2016
#239
Can't speak for everyone who disagrees with you, but I am not angry with or scapegoating those folks
stevenleser
Dec 2016
#215
I totally understand your view and feeling you expressed. Well written. Thank you.
kgnu_fan
Dec 2016
#232